WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Adobe Reader, among several others.
Well, then it's your own fault for not using Sumatra PDF
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I didn't say I use it, I said it was an example of an application that did that
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@sloosecannon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Just gonna jump in here and mention that Stardock Fences is a thing..
What kind of a thing?
A sort-of-a kind-of-a bob-a-ma-thing.
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@TimeBandit in terms of security, you can set up cross device biometric recognition, which can definitely be pretty good.
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@Magus said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit in terms of security, you can set up cross device biometric recognition, which can definitely be pretty good.
Since when? Also, this is a terrible idea. Biometric data should not be accessible outside the device its used for.
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@Rhywden you know, I may be wrong about it being cross device. But generally they get you on biometric the second you log in with a Microsoft account.
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@Magus Yes, from what I remember that's pretty much the way all those devices behave - if there's the option to login biometrically they'll nag you to enable that option rightaway.
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@Jaloopa said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Vixen said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
for the managers decided in their wisdom to restore "missing" icons on app update or app launch.
I know of no application that does that
Then you are most blessed
to not use, or be forced to use,
an application marinated in shit.
Blessed indeed are you.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia: that way, they can sell bigger screens to people who use lots of applications.
Interestingly, up until about 2005, there was a strong negative correlation here - the more icons someone had, the lower resolution they'd use. And not because they didn't know how to change it.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia: that way, they can sell bigger screens to people who use lots of applications.
Interestingly, up until about 2005, there was a strong negative correlation here - the more icons someone had, the lower resolution they'd use. And not because they didn't know how to change it.
My father had over 400 items on his work laptop's desktop. I told him "You can't access most of them anyways, why not just put them in the right folder to begin with? You're not saving yourself any steps here..."
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@Vixen said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Then you are most blessed
to not use, or be forced to use,
an application marinated in shit.
Blessed indeed are you.Your haiku is one line too long.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
My desktop is only My Computer and Recycle Bin (neither of which I actually use), half dozen New Folders where I unpack archives, some Office documents I'm working on right now, and games. Lots and lots of games, almost none of which I'm actively playing.
You're forgetting the two hidden copies of
desktop.ini
which it's showing because show hidden files is enabled globally and can't be turned off for the desktop view separately.The main thing I use the desktop for is as temporary storage when I want to post an image here.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
My desktop is only My Computer and Recycle Bin (neither of which I actually use), half dozen New Folders where I unpack archives, some Office documents I'm working on right now, and games. Lots and lots of games, almost none of which I'm actively playing.
You're forgetting the two hidden copies of
desktop.ini
which it's showing because showhiddensystem files is enabled globally and can't be turned off for the desktop view separately.For this reason (among others), I have disabled showing system files.
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@ChaosTheEternal There's also Freda, Lithium, Calibre, and Okular
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@TwelveBaud Sure, but none of those are the ones Microsoft recommended as replacement EPUB readers for Edge.
I did try freda before and didn't like it, though I don't recall exactly why, so quick review:
freda/freda+ review
It also has a "pay to remove" ads option (and/or a pay for version of the app, at $2, not bad), though it can connect to OneDrive with a separate Microsoft account login (which is good for me wanting to possibly use it at work), though I have to add a book at a time that way. If adding locally, looks like it makes it's own copies of books saved locally (and I had a problem with it not actually downloading . Oh, the UI must assume a landscape type screen, because it doesn't scale down anymore once you get under 4:3 until you're reading. Settings UIs look a bit rough too. It's not bad.Lithium appears to be an Android reader. I'm not using an Android tablet or my phone.
Calibre, well, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" I guess. It does seem to tout library management, but that's not at all what I want it for.
Okular seems to work well for what it says it is, a "universal document viewer," but it's not really what I'm wanting, which is an e-book reading app that can handle EPUB files.
I will say, one of the big reasons I'm potentially carrying more for "Windows Store" style options is due to one of the two areas I do the reading, on my Surface tablet where I primarily use it like a tablet. The other option is at work, where non-touch options could work, but why not see about sticking with the familiar on both sides?
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^ Perfectly normal-looking screenshot.
^ (Gimp usually puts the slashscreen in the center of the screen)
^ I maximized the Gimp's window before taking the screenshot. You'll have to trust me it occupied only the upper half of the screen. Notice the system's volume control.
^ The battery popup also hates the lower half of the screen.
^ This is after maximizing the file explorer window, which again only took the upper half of the screen.
^ "The floor is lava" -Windows 10
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@ChaosTheEternal said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Calibre, well, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" I guess. It does seem to tout library management, but that's not at all what I want it for.
Looking at it from the opposite perspective (I use it for library management and converting ebooks for my ereader, not for reading on the computer) it's very good.
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@hungrier Sure, if I was coming at it with a "library" of e-books that more resemble a haphazard pile on the floor, I'd be more enthused by it. But I don't have that many e-books (yet?) and what I do have so far I have my own organization for that I like.
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@ChaosTheEternal When I first started using it, it was mostly for quality-of-life reasons. I can manually sideload epubs all day, but then I don't get any of the fancy Kobo features, and sometimes I get ebooks off Amazon and they're in DRM'd Kindle format, or the cover illustration is crappy quality, or the metadata has one book marked "Larry Correia" and another "Correia, Larry", etc. Calibre is great for taking care of all that.
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Pretty sure I'd told Windows to shut down Friday afternoon when I was done with work. Surprise! Not shut down. OK, whatever. Let's get going.
Hit the key and the start menu won't go below halfway down the screen.
Start typing to bring up my vpn software...dismisses the start menu. Nice. Fortunately, the shutdown button on the crippled start menu still works. But...then Windows tells me that it can't restart because something called "Task Window" is still running or something. Fuck off already.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Hit the key and the start menu won't go below halfway down the screen.
Sounds familiar.
By the way, I'm not on that machine today, but yesterday Skype took the weird behaviour one step further.
Right after starting up, the window was fully maximized and showing everything as expected
After clicking a conversation, the lower half suddenly went white. Both the conversation list and the main content area showing the conversation halved their height, despite the window itself still reaching the bottom of the screen. The interface was fully operational, nothing was missing; the message input box was visible on the bottom of the upper half of the screen; I could scroll through the conversation in half the screen using the scrollbar just fine. It just spontaneously decided to half the height of all the content.
I thought this was a bug I triggered after temporarily putting my laptop in tablet mode (not that that would make the screen smaller...). Now I'm wondering if there's more to it.
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Status: apparently the toddler mashed the right sequence of buttons to get this from the lockscreen...
Caret browsing... Hmmm....
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@Tsaukpaetra That's some sort of Accessibility feature. They are turned on by strange key sequences, except when you force them to be off in
whatever the kids call it these days .Control PanelSettings
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Now I'm wondering if there's more to it.
Is it an update to add upper-half and lower-half options to the window Snap functionality?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the right sequence of buttons
Looks like F7 in this case.
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@djls45 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the right sequence of buttons
Looks like F7 in this case.
I moved my mouse and it disappeared, now I can't get it to happen anymore...
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They are turned on by strange key sequences
The Fetish/Kink Thread is .
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They are turned on by strange key sequences
The Fetish/Kink Thread is .
Stealing this.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@djls45 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the right sequence of buttons
Looks like F7 in this case.
I moved my mouse and it disappeared, now I can't get it to happen anymore...
Of course not! F7 is on the keyboard, not the mouse.
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@djls45 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@djls45 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
the right sequence of buttons
Looks like F7 in this case.
I moved my mouse and it disappeared, now I can't get it to happen anymore...
Of course not! F7 is on the keyboard, not the mouse.
But... There's UI buttons you can click right there...
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Therefore, the first rule of writing kernel mode drivers
You think developers follow rules at this newfangled start-up?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Wouldn’t it be easier to issue a warning whenever an update doesn’t cause issues?
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@levicki
BreakOnHydration
What does this do, break whenever you feed your pc a glass of water over the dvd tray?
Guess that’s a new meaning of “breakpoint”.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Meanwhile, the Windows 10 update problems continue to mount. Adding the BSOD reports to the list, since September there have now been boot failures, broken printing, Search and Start Menu bugs (yes, again), USB and audio problems, screen discolouration, spiked CPU usage and broken Internet connectivity.
With Microsoft now forcing one of its buggiest Windows 10 builds on users, I expect to be back with reports of more problems soon.
wow...
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
"use Microsoft’s Show or Hide updates tool to block it from installing on your PC. "
Wait...What? You have to download and install a special program to stop Windows from installing a buggy update?
"To Microsoft’s credit, the company is about to make fundamental changes to Windows 10 updates"
Which links to a story from April which says that users will have the ability to delay Windows from fucking their computer for up to 35 days.
Wow. A whole 35 days. Thanks Microsoft!!
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's like... I don't even... I mean, that's what you do while developing that shit and you remove it in release version for fuck sake.
Not just that. It shouldn't even exist in the first place. If you want the code to break when it reaches specific function, set the goddamn breakpoint on that function!!!
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Wow. A whole 35 days. Thanks Microsoft!!
You should be thankful we give you any option.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki
BreakOnHydration
What does this do, break whenever you feed your pc a glass of water over the dvd tray?
Guess that’s a new meaning of “breakpoint”.Hydration refers to the process of filling an object with data. An object which has not yet been hydrated has been instantiated and represents an entity that does have data, but the data has not yet been loaded into the object.
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@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's like... I don't even... I mean, that's what you do while developing that shit and you remove it in release version for fuck sake.
Not just that. It shouldn't even exist in the first place. If you want the code to break when it reaches specific function, set the goddamn breakpoint on that function!!!
Maybe it's possible that it's not that simple when you're developing kernel drivers?
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@TimeBandit oh good, another Gordon Kelly mostly-BS Windows Update article
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@JBert said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's like... I don't even... I mean, that's what you do while developing that shit and you remove it in release version for fuck sake.
Not just that. It shouldn't even exist in the first place. If you want the code to break when it reaches specific function, set the goddamn breakpoint on that function!!!
Maybe it's possible that it's not that simple when you're developing kernel drivers?
They already plugged in the debugger, didn't they?
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TIL I'm still on 1809.
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@pie_flavor how? Didn't you permanently disable all updates like two years ago?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And of course isn't this just typical?
If you are, then navigate to Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features > Installed updates > KB4517389 > Uninstall
Hey, genious, I don't have a "Program" entry on my control panel. I do have Programs and Features, though. But that update isn't installed. Not that I could do anything about it on my work machine.
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@JBert said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
That's like... I don't even... I mean, that's what you do while developing that shit and you remove it in release version for fuck sake.
Not just that. It shouldn't even exist in the first place. If you want the code to break when it reaches specific function, set the goddamn breakpoint on that function!!!
Maybe it's possible that it's not that simple when you're developing kernel drivers?
I used to use the Microsoft remote kernel debugger which let you use Visual Studio to debug the kernel of another machine. It was really nifty, you got breakpoints and memory views and everything, but Microsoft broke it via Windows Updates. Now my best method for debugging kernel drivers is to drop a bunch of
KeBugCheckEx()
calls everywhere with unique error codes, and make sure to catch the error code during the BSOD so I know what part of my code it reached...printf debugging but with bluescreens instead of console output...I hate computers.
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gąska said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Not just that. It shouldn't even exist in the first place. If you want the code to break when it reaches specific function, set the goddamn breakpoint on that function!!!
Actually, in Windows driver world that is quite usual approach to debugging, especially when you are remote-debugging boot drivers. What isn't usual, is leaving it in your production code.
Is it because the remote debugger is unable to set breakpoints in driver code, or because it sucks and refuses to do so even though it should without a problem?
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@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They should just give up and rename Windows 10 to Windows ∞ Beta to align users' expectations with reality.
They said Windows 10 would be the last version, because it will never be finished
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@levicki said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
They should just give up and rename Windows 10 to Windows ∞ Beta to align users' expectations with reality.
They said Windows 10 would be the last version, because it will never be finished
well, it can't be a coincidence can it?
Warp speeds cap out at 10....
Macos has been stuck trying to perfect version 10 forever.....
Chrome and Firefox only managed to get past version 10 because they number their releases using the minor release number and leave the implied
version 10.
off the front
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@Vixen and Debian 10 is the current stable one.
Looks like version 11 will hit perfection, that's why it's named Bullseye