Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness
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@Rhywden said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Seriously, don't mention it.
Ze var? Oh, we are going to mention it.
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@Polygeekery I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it
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@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
"Oh, damn, I can't do that on Windows 7. I need a Windows 10 machine to do that."
Something that literally no person has ever said.
False.
Name the circumstance then.
There are a few diagnostic tools in Visual Studio don't work in Windows 7 anymore. This legitimately caused problems for me at work and it was the impetus for me to finally get the time to install Windows 10 on my workstation.
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@Jaloopa said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit I like to think of myself more as a humorist.
As in you hate humour? That explains a lot of your posts
Humor is to humorist as race is to racist.
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@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
UWP applications (that aren't PWAs) can also be made with HTML and JavaScript.
If that's not the literal definition of a PWA, what is?
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
UWP applications (that aren't PWAs) can also be made with HTML and JavaScript.
If that's not the literal definition of a PWA, what is?
It's a matter of the source: PWAs initially live on the server and you have to work to also make them live on the client (so you don't get stale data and the like). They also don't have access to native APIs
UWP apps in HTML5/JS initially live on the client and connect to a server only for data exchange. UWP allows trusted code full access to the WinJS API.
There's more to PWA than just HTML/JS.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
UWP applications (that aren't PWAs) can also be made with HTML and JavaScript.
If that's not the literal definition of a PWA, what is?
Without doing any searches, my guess would be "A website that uses a Manifest and Service Workers to allow your device/browser to start it from the launcher/desktop and run it offline." :P
To add to what @Rhywden said, UWP apps written with HTML+JS don't have to use the network at all. They can be purely device-side.
They also don't have to work on any browser but Edge; most PWAs are written for a wider audience, if not solely Chrome. I don't know if Microsoft still plans to automatically add PWAs found by Bing to the Store, but if it does those "apps" won't have any special Windows 10 features.
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@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
won't have any special Windows 10 features.
I think we can all do without random reboots and profile deletion
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
won't have any special Windows 10 features.
I think we can all do without random reboots and profile deletion
Bah, you don't need PWAs for that. The old HTML Applications will work perfectly for that use case!
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@LB_ said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1_CFn_wVrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQRIsHBvYU&t=0s
TLDR: people are losing files in the update. As in, deleted, less disk space used after the update.
Tobey Faire, his "jdownloader2" files are really just stuff he pirated somewhere. It's not really lost user data, he just has to download them again.
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@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
won't have any special Windows 10 features.
I think we can all do without random reboots and profile deletion
Bah, you don't need PWAs for that. The old HTML Applications will work perfectly for that use case!
Everything old is new again!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Everything old is new again!
I'm waiting for
Active Desktop Zombie TilesWindows Gadgets to officially reappear.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Everything old is new again!
I'm waiting for
Active Desktop Zombie TilesWindows Gadgets to oficially reappear.I did a really crappy implementation in .Net some time ago.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
a really crappy implementation in .Net
That seems redundant.
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
a really crappy implementation in .Net
That seems redundant.
I have to be obvious in my words lately, I think. Doesn't hurt, right?
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Data Deletion Bug was reported to Microsoft 3 months ago
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Presumably not in the Microsoft Store, I hear the selection isn't that great.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Everything old is new again!
I'm waiting for
Active Desktop Zombie TilesWindows Gadgets to officially reappear.Until then, you've got Rainmeter.
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
So why go to all the trouble to make Windows worse and worse?
Some Chief Sociopath Officer needs to justify their existence somehow.
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Reading the comments in some of those threads about looking for the lost files on OneDrive or in OneDrive's recycle bin (maybe some people with low disk space found them there after the new "local cloud content" thing ran). Everyone uses OneDrive, right? Keep everything there and things'll be sweet.
Problem: Microsoft is deleting your files from your computer.
Solution: store your files on Microsoft's computers.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Zerosquare
And that'll be the last of your files, while we're at it.(https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/9l128k/warning_1809_upgrade_misplaceddeleted_files_in/)
I turned off Windows Update after 14393 and have not regretted it at all*.
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my only regret is not turning it off sooner.
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@Parody said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@boomzilla said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Zerosquare
And that'll be the last of your files, while we're at it.(https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/9l128k/warning_1809_upgrade_misplaceddeleted_files_in/)
So not everyone got those, "Your files are right where you left them" messages, eh?
I guess not. Microsoft pulled the update for investigation:
That's two in a row now.
"users missing some files" is a weird way to describe deleting every photo, document, video, and song on a user's account.
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@ben_lubar But Windows and its program files are still there so it's definitely not all files...
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@El_Heffe I guess someone's putting in a few weekend hours right now... (Not me!)
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Sounds like us. Bugs? Bah. Must release cool-new-feature-no-one-knows-they-want on <date/>. Do it, or be fired. And remember, we're agile - we'll get it next sprint.
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@Watson said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Reading the comments in some of those threads about looking for the lost files on OneDrive or in OneDrive's recycle bin (maybe some people with low disk space found them there after the new "local cloud content" thing ran). Everyone uses OneDrive, right? Keep everything there and things'll be sweet.
Problem: Microsoft is deleting your files from your computer.
Solution: store some of your files on Microsoft's computers.Hmm - let's look at who is going to financially gain when more users sign up for more storage... It's THEIR fault!
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@ben_lubar said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
"users missing some files" is a weird way to describe deleting every photo, document, video, and song on a user's account.
Not really ... the user might not miss every file that was deleted.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
Apparently he was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried at some point.
Ah, Flash Player, let me see if archive.org still has a copy...
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Must release cool-new-feature-no-one-knows-they-want on <date/>. Do it, or be fired. And remember, we're agile - we'll get it next sprint.
Business Scanning, also called Distributed Scan Management (DSM):
We're removing this secure scanning and scanner management capability because there are no devices that support this feature.
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"According to numerous people who called the support number, the support agents told them that the bug was still under investigation and they were not aware of any tools."
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@JBert said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
Apparently he was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried at some point.
Ah, Flash Player, let me see if archive.org still has a copy...
Strange, the "episodes" were .exe format when I tried to view them...
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@cvi said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@ben_lubar said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
"users missing some files" is a weird way to describe deleting every photo, document, video, and song on a user's account.
Not really ... the user might not miss every file that was deleted.
The new Cortana AI will analyze your files and sort them according to relevance for you.
: Hmm, those holiday pictures look really boring. Take better ones next time. BALEETED.
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@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
When this release was still in the Insider Preview stage Microsoft announced that the Download folder would now be included in the "cleanup" of "un-needed files"
source?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@JBert said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Polygeekery said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Had a gender change and is named Cortana,
I never thought of Clippy having a gender. Well, not unless "Annoying as fuck" is a gender, and this is 2018 so it probably is.
Apparently he was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried at some point.
Ah, Flash Player, let me see if archive.org still has a copy...
Strange, the "episodes" were .exe format when I tried to view them...
So, they were in a self-extracting zip file, which contained a embedded flash 4.0 player with the actual "movie".
I was going to record them for y'all when I thought "Shirley Someone has thought of this?" And lo, YouTube comes through once again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu_Pzuwy-JY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KZG3Zy8xU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAsV6_AawVwEdit: Demo?
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@marczellm said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@El_Heffe said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
When this release was still in the Insider Preview stage Microsoft announced that the Download folder would now be included in the "cleanup" of "un-needed files"
source?
And you think I'm just making this up because . . . . . ?
"With Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (version 1709), Microsoft introduced a new option in Storage sense to automatically delete files from the Downloads folder. The option, when turned on (turned off by default), automatically deletes unchanged files from the Downloads folder after 30 days. "
At some point during the development of the current version (1809) the setting was changed to a default of "on" and there were a lot of complaints. Don't believe me? Not my problem.
Windows 10 has enough real problems, I don't need to make up any additional ones.
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https://i.imgur.com/FDARyUH.png
Funny, I don't recall ever changing this setting.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
https://i.imgur.com/FDARyUH.png
Funny, I don't recall ever changing this setting.What if you have no such setting, it gets set up by default to something other than "Never" during the upgrade, then after the first boot it automatically applies the rule?
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@Tsaukpaetra But if I've never changed this setting, that means that its default is whatever it is now.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra But if I've never changed this setting, that means that its default is whatever it is now.
No, the default was what you have it now, at the time that the default was applied.
If the default changed thereafter, it won't apply to you, because you've already "changed" it (i.e. the setting was saved and therefore not default) and it won't apply it to you.
So, you would be one of those users where the upgrade will go well with no issues.
But for me, who is stuck a year back where there was no such setting, will get the current default (which may not be Never) and thus I will experience the thanosing when I upgrade.
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@pie_flavor A dropdown without any value explicitly selected will also render the first option as selected, without any hint that this value is not saved yet.
I had a problem that I suppose is similar. I don't want Windows to keep track of Recent files I've opened. I had it configured exactly that way before this update. After installing it, I noticed that the recent files were showing up again, even though the setting was showing up as "off". I had to turn it on and back off again to remove them.
And the old problem I had with bonus keyboard layouts was back too… although this time I can remove the magically added layout and it stays gone. Progress.
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@DCoder said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I had a problem that I suppose is similar. I don't want Windows to keep track of Recent files I've opened. I had it configured exactly that way before this update. After installing it, I noticed that the recent files were showing up again, even though the setting was showing up as "off". I had to turn it on and back off again to remove them.
Windows 10: Where remembering your preferences is hard, except when you don't want it to.
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@El_Heffe I never said you were making it up, I just couldn't find the link with a quick google search.
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@marczellm said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@El_Heffe I never said you were making it up, I just couldn't find the link with a quick google search.
Oh how easy it is to incorrectly expand a one-word query...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
one-word
Top result
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@topspin said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
The new Cortana AI will analyze your files and sort them according to relevance for you.
: Hmm, those holiday pictures look really boring. Take better ones next time. BALEETED.I'd make an obvious Atwood reference, but I'm above that.
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
So you like your girls disabled, huh?
I like my girls like my coffee. White, hot, and always getting my name wrong.
You know something? I have never had coffee say my name at all, much less get it wrong.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
So you like your girls disabled, huh?
I like my girls like my coffee. White, hot, and always getting my name wrong.
You know something? I have never had coffee say my name at all, much less get it wrong.
I've heard it mutter something after working for two days straight. It's clearly not to be trusted...so I now do my part by drinking as much as possible.
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@El_Heffe
That would make total sense for the seemingly sporadic/random nature of the reports, too. After all, everyone knows the two most logical places to store super critical documents and pictures are the "Recycle Bin" and "Downloads" folders.