Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far
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Since I've been hitting at least three swears an hour, I might as well start chronicling this shit. Until I get Win7 installed on my new laptop, I have to use Win10.
I've spent a couple hours tweaking it to turn off as much of the "grumpy cat" cruft as I can find. From memory:
- Turn off Cortana
- Disable all location tracking
- Disable anything that might send information to Bing
- Removing all the flashing tiles from Start
- Removing all ads from Start
- Uninstalling all the bloatware shit (non-MS)
- Uninstalling all the bloatware shit (from Microsoft fuck you Candy Crush, Skupe, etc)
- Turning off sounds, since the constant barrage of notifications made "bings"
- Uninstalling more microsoft bloatware that I only knew was there because of notifications (fuck you Office 365)
- Realizing the system has auto-updated itself and rebooted at least three times, which is why none of my open windows or programs were there. TBD if this worked
- Installing FF22
- Installing Chrome because for some reason WTDWTF wouldn't work on FF22 in Win10, and I couldn't be arsed to figure out why
- Turning off "enhance mouse pointer percision" because it "enhanced it"
Just to make this thing usable. And I'm sure there's settings I missed.
Will complain in posts.
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So now I'm using it. I've got some Halloween photos of Molly to browse through. Copy them from the card to an image folder. Time to do the usual sorting-- open them in photo viewer, speed through them, delete the blurry and rotate the ones in the wrong mode.
Oops, here's a blurry one. With photo viewer open, hit delete, enter-- get ready for the next one.
Nope. Instead WHIZZY WOZZY WOOPY the photo slowly fades away, shows a black screen, then the next photo slides in. Total animation time: 5 seconds.
In Win7? Instant.
Thanks for that, Microsoft, that extra animation cruft added a lot of value.
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@Lorne-Kates
Sure it did. It gave you five whole seconds to enjoy the physical presence of your family while you waited for the computer to delete the photo.
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And now I'm trying to move photos into a different "maybe" folder. Through Windows Explorer. The usual process: arrow to the file I want, copy, alt-tab to a different window, paste.
I want to keep DSC_0022.jpg. Okay, I just need to arrow over and make sure it's highlighted...
make sure it's highlighted...
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HIGHLIGHT?
Oh, goodie. The default windows theme is white background, and the highlight is #CCE8FF. That is "effectively white". So I have to lean in and stare to see which file is highlighted.
Did I mention you can't change the highlight color in Win10 without resorting to a high contrast rainbow-barf theme?
Also, they changed the chord for creating a new folder (alt-f, w, enter).
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Did I mention you can't change the highlight color in Win10 without resorting to a high contrast rainbow-barf theme?
I had that problem even with Windows 7 taskbar! Fucking glow is so hard to figure out which application is in the foreground. Glowwwwwwww
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
So now I'm using it. I've got some Halloween photos of Molly to browse through. Copy them from the card to an image folder. Time to do the usual sorting-- open them in photo viewer, speed through them, delete the blurry and rotate the ones in the wrong mode.
Oops, here's a blurry one. With photo viewer open, hit delete, enter-- get ready for the next one.
Nope. Instead WHIZZY WOZZY WOOPY the photo slowly fades away, shows a black screen, then the next photo slides in. Total animation time: 5 seconds.
In Win7? Instant.
Thanks for that, Microsoft, that extra animation cruft added a lot of value.
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@error said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
+1 for IrfanView, but I had to tell Windows 10 three or four times to use it as the default image viewer. A few seconds after saving my choice, it'd go (image borrowed from here) and reset my preference. No idea why or what finally fixed it.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Turning off "enhance mouse pointer percision" because it "enhanced it"
That's been a default-to-on setting since... Windows 7? How are you just now noticing it?
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@Lorne-Kates Just enable checkboxes.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
- Turn off Cortana
- Disable all location tracking
- Disable anything that might send information to Bing
- Porn mode on
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@Lorne-Kates Doesn't do that on mine. Are you sure you're not using Photos?
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@coldandtired said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates Doesn't do that on mine. Are you sure you're not using Photos?
He is, he just doesn't realize it yet.
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@coldandtired said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Are you sure you're not using Photos?
Wtf is that
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@bb36e said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@coldandtired said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Are you sure you're not using Photos?
Wtf is that
It's a System App. Meant to replace photo viewer.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
- Turn off Cortana
Unless something has changed in the last few months, you didn't turn it off you only hid it from view. Check task manager -- It's still running. Kill it and it comes back instantly. I once figured out a way to delete Cortana, but then W10 became unstable.
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One stop shop to cut off stupid W10 telemetry bullshit
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@Tsaukpaetra wait so you're supposed to use it right
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@El_Heffe said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
- Turn off Cortana
Unless something has changed in the last few months, you didn't turn it off you only hid it from view. Check task manager -- It's still running. Kill it and it comes back instantly. I once figured out a way to delete Cortana, but then W10 became unstable.
Cortana is just Windows Search renamed (at least, as far as task manager and underlying system functionality is concerned). Lots of things (Windows especially) require that it be functional, if not enabled.
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@bb36e said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Tsaukpaetra wait so you're supposed to use it right
I can't.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Disable anything that might send information to Bing
Ahaha, you think those settings do anything? That's adorable.
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@El_Heffe said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
I once figured out a way to delete Cortana, but then W10 became unstable.
Why delete it? Just disable all stupid shit (like online search) via group policy.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Turning off "enhance mouse pointer percision" because it "enhanced it"
I've had to turn that off on every version of Windows I've used...
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@dcon said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Turning off "enhance mouse pointer percision" because it "enhanced it"
I've had to turn that off on every version of Windows I've used...
Especially for VMs before you install the tools that let you position the mouse absolutely. Frick that's annoying...
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@izzion said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates
Sure it did. It gave you five whole seconds to enjoy the physical presence of your family while you waited for the computer to delete the photo.I don't need them. I have photos. Or at least I would if Windows wouldn't show a blank screen for 5 seconds.
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@coldandtired said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates Doesn't do that on mine. Are you sure you're not using Photos?
I don't know. How the fuck do I know? I do what I did on every Windows I've ever used: double click the photo, and viewer shows up.
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Autoplay.
Autoplay.
FUCKING AUTOPLAY?
One of Microstop's stupidest ideas next to ActiveX and automatically running scripts in Outlook Express.
Autoplay.
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Could be worse- it could be autopay.
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@coderpatsy Just wait, it will be coming.
I was sincerely pissed at Win10 the other night when I realized that MS wanted me to pay $15 for a store app to play DVDs. That should be a free app.
So I installed VLC. $15 for an app to play DVDs, they can go fuck themselves.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@coldandtired said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@Lorne-Kates Doesn't do that on mine. Are you sure you're not using Photos?
I don't know. How the fuck do I know? I do what I did on every Windows I've ever used: double click the photo, and viewer shows up.
Yep, Photos is the default viewer in Win10. I f you don't like that, you can right-click and Open with... Paint.
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I've done the "big" reinstall because I haven't bothered reinstalling since Windows 8.0 and my .NET libs etc were a mess on my machine and it has caused problems with me deploying stuff with AWS and Azure.
Personally unless I didn't play games on my own machine, I would have install Fedora and just given up with Windows after my experience recently.
I have a license for "pro".
I had "Candy Crush Saga" installed by default in the default install.
Fair enough Microsoft bundles Skype (Skype is useful to me), Cortana (I think it is shit) and other stuff that they produce ... but a third party mobile phone game in a Professional Install? Comon.
I want a stripped down Windows as a dev. I been using Fedora with the Fedy Script (which fixes the Software SJW bollox) and it works really well, but my laptop has a full Intel chipset so everything is going to work fine as the drivers are open source.
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@Polygeekery I love Windows. It works really well now and I used to have to use Solaris / Linux at uni around about a decade ago now and doing anything was painful.
I wanted to release my dissertation project on Linux, I couldn't do it easily ... it wouldn't compile on "version x" of linux. So I just said "well I will support redhat based distros and nothing else" and people in my uni got pissed at me on the board for saying that ... so I decided "no linux support".
My dissertation code still compiles and works on Win2000 to Win10.
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@lucas1 said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
I had "Candy Crush Saga" installed by default in the default install.
Mozilla's MOST ADVANCED user loves Candy Crush Saga!
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@Lorne-Kates I hate that crap to. I just want a solid OS to do work on.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@lucas1 said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
I had "Candy Crush Saga" installed by default in the default install.
Mozilla's MOST ADVANCED user loves Candy Crush Saga!
Was that game even available on Firefox OS?
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@Lorne-Kates That's Windows 7 thinking!
The default in 10 is Photos, which is a fancier version, but is pretty shit for navigating many files.
Previously, you needed a hack to get Photo Viewer back but apparently now you can change the default program like normal.
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@lucas1 said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
I had "Candy Crush Saga" installed by default in the default install.
At least you Can uninstall that easily. Unlike that useless, OneDrive-only fucking OneNote app.
I still owe the person who first mentioned Remove-AppxPackage on this forum a cookie.
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@Polygeekery said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@coderpatsy Just wait, it will be coming.
I was sincerely pissed at Win10 the other night when I realized that MS wanted me to pay $15 for a store app to play DVDs. That should be a free app.
So I installed VLC. $15 for an app to play DVDs, they can go fuck themselves.
IIRC, windows has never had this out of the box, because playing DVDs always requires an mpeg license, Which costs about $15.
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@PleegWat My retail version of Win7 had a built in DVD player.
Interestingly enough the upgrade to Win10 on my old machine then came with a DVD player too...
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@PleegWat said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
because playing DVDs always requires an mpeg license, Which costs about $15.
Unless you're a monster that uses unlicensed players like VLC/MPC-HC. You monster. MPEG-LA members needed those $15 to survive.
Why, it's almost as evil as using ad blockers.
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@anonymous234 Sure, and if you play DVDs using VLC without a license then that's between you, VLC, MPEG-LA, and whatever local enforcement agencies are relevant. But you can't expect microsoft to partake in that.
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@Arantor said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@PleegWat My retail version of Win7 had a built in DVD player.
Interestingly enough the upgrade to Win10 on my old machine then came with a DVD player too...
AFAIK, windows media player was capable of playing DVDs even in XP. But only if a third-party DVD playing program (with license) was already installed.
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@PleegWat My old laptop was a Late 2011 Macbook with Boot Camp - Win7 retail just ran DVDs on it just fine... unless iTunes counts as a 'compatible program' for that purpose because I never installed anything else (consciously) that could do such a thing.
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@Arantor I've no clue which programs qualified. As far as I know it actually had all technology on board, so it didn't need to interact with the program - it just needed it to be there for the license. So itunes may well have qualified.
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@anonymous234 said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Unless you're a monster that uses unlicensed players like VLC/MPC-HC. You monster. MPEG-LA members needed those $15 to survive.
Those crazy French lawbreakers!
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@Lorne-Kates said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
Until I get Win7 installed on my new laptop, I have to use Win10.
Idiot.
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@Polygeekery said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
@coderpatsy Just wait, it will be coming.
I was sincerely pissed at Win10 the other night when I realized that MS wanted me to pay $15 for a store app to play DVDs. That should be a free app.
Tell that to MPEG LA:
So I installed VLC.
VLC is not made in the U.S., so they are not bound by stupid software patents.
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@PleegWat said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
IIRC, windows has never had this out of the box, because playing DVDs always requires an mpeg license, Which costs about $15.
According to a pdf on the MPEG LA website:
From January 1, 2016 forward, royalty rates for MPEG-2 Decoders, MPEG-2 Encoders and MPEG-2 Consumer Products will be $0.50 per unit with right of voluntary termination on 30-days written notice, but Licensees may elect a royalty of $0.35 per unit with right of voluntary termination on or after January 1, 2018 on 30-days written notice.
Prior to Jan. 1, 2016 it was $2 per unit.
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I was getting ready for an online lesson and I quit skype so it wouldn't fight the lesson platform for control of my mic. Ten minutes later, my teacher, who was mobile at the time, calls me... on skype.
It was an all-black UI called "Skype Preview"
...WHAT?!
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@Yamikuronue said in Lorne has the misfortune of being an idiot by circumstance: my experience with windows 10 so far:
I was getting ready for an online lesson and I quit skype so it wouldn't fight the lesson platform for control of my mic. Ten minutes later, my teacher, who was mobile at the time, calls me... on skype.
It was an all-black UI called "Skype Preview"
...WHAT?!
Welcome to the Anniversary Update!
BTW, surprisingly, seems my skype name (which is the same as my name everywhere else, kinda) still exists.
No I don't expect anyone to call me based on this information...