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@Jaloopa said in In other news today...:
Not if you have a horsebox
Still think it would be cheaper and more convenient to have a trailer and pickup truck. Even if you then painted them pink.
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@blakeyrat It would be cheaper and more convenient not to own a horse. You can't apply logic to these people
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@Jaloopa Point.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
I'd guess the big difference is that in the US, pickup trucks are quite common. From what I understand, they're not so common in Europe
Right; but it's not like there's some mysterious force-field that envelops Europe and if a pickup truck enters it it dissolves into magical butterflies, right?
And if you own horses, wouldn't that be a pretty good reason to buy one? Even if you don't need it for the horse trailer, it's handy for things like: their feed, the equipment needed to re-shoe one, etc.
Part of the problem is that pickups are not popular, so they're more expensive. Yes, that's circular, but that's marketing. They also are larger, which doesn't fit well in most European towns, AFAIK. Plus gas taxes make things like that more expensive to own/operate. Plus a bunch of cultural factors.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
I'd guess the big difference is that in the US, pickup trucks are quite common. From what I understand, they're not so common in Europe
Right; but it's not like there's some mysterious force-field that envelops Europe and if a pickup truck enters it it dissolves into magical butterflies, right?
And if you own horses, wouldn't that be a pretty good reason to buy one? Even if you don't need it for the horse trailer, it's handy for things like: their feed, the equipment needed to re-shoe one, etc.
Annecdata for two friends who own horses: They have self-propelled horseboxes and cargo vans plus tractors and other vehicles. A pickup isn't needed and the cost of multiple more-specialised vehicles isn't a concern.
Pickups do exist here but of the three people I know with one only two of them do anything agricultural and none of them have horses.
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@pie_flavor They've been talking about wanting to do more of this kind of thing.
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It must vary within Europe as well - I see horse trailers more often than self-propelled ones, though both are rare. Trailers are rarely sized for more than one horse and never more than two, while self-propelled appear to start at three, so that may be a consideration in which is used.
Large trailers are typically towed by vans rather than pickups around here.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
Part of the problem is that pickups are not popular, so they're more expensive. Yes, that's circular, but that's marketing. They also are larger, which doesn't fit well in most European towns, AFAIK. Plus gas taxes make things like that more expensive to own/operate.
There are plenty of pickups around but there are even more 4x4s/SUVs and estates because that's what people prefer.
It's not about cost, or size as it doesn't make much difference between 4x4s and pickups.
Horseboxes are far less common than horse trailers pulled by another vehicle.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
Still think it would be cheaper and more convenient to have a trailer and pickup truck. Even if you then painted them pink.
It is - horse trailer is the much more common option, it's just often pulled by a different vehicle from a pickup.
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an unsuitable Benidorm hotel that had âtoo many Spaniards in itâ.
"The entertainment in the hotel was all focused and catered for the Spanish. Why canât the Spanish go somewhere else for their holidays?â
Benidorm is in Spain.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
Benidorm is in Spain.
That is at least slightly consistent (if you look at it sideways and squint hard enough) with the question "Why canât the Spanish go somewhere else for their holidays?" :P
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From the "nobody should be shocked" department
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@TimeBandit if true, isn't this the whole iBooks price fixing scheme all over again?
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@PJH said in In other news today...:
 https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/6997362/kate-price-selling-pink-horse-box/
Katie Price âtries to sell her pink horse box to raise cashâ after avoiding bankruptcy
The rumours about Dwight Yorke are true, then.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
I'd guess the big difference is that in the US, pickup trucks are quite common. From what I understand, they're not so common in Europe
Right; but it's not like there's some mysterious force-field that envelops Europe and if a pickup truck enters it it dissolves into magical butterflies, right?
And if you own horses, wouldn't that be a pretty good reason to buy one? Even if you don't need it for the horse trailer, it's handy for things like: their feed, the equipment needed to re-shoe one, etc.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
I'd guess the big difference is that in the US, pickup trucks are quite common. From what I understand, they're not so common in Europe
Right; but it's not like there's some mysterious force-field that envelops Europe and if a pickup truck enters it it dissolves into magical butterflies, right?
And if you own horses, wouldn't that be a pretty good reason to buy one? Even if you don't need it for the horse trailer, it's handy for things like: their feed, the equipment needed to re-shoe one, etc.
From my own experience (with horses), pick-ups are not necessarily that much more convenient than any large car (i.e. 4x4 or SUV), on balance. Most stuff that you need to haul around when taking the horses on a trip can fit into a standard car (btw, most people also don't have "the equipment needed to re-shoe one", unless by that you just mean a couple of hand tools that fit into any grooming box with brushes and the like... real farrier's work is too complicated and only specialists do it), and when you don't have that much stuff to carry a pickup isn't really suited to European roads/cities/parking spaces etc. There are some in rural areas, but very few in suburban ones, for that reason.
But regardless of pickups, trailers are common here, most people who only own a couple of horses have one. You don't need a pickup to haul a trailer, any reasonably-sized car can do it.
In the end, many horse-owners end up having two vehicles (at least), a small-ish one for day-to-day business and a large-ish one for hauling the horses. That last one can be either a 4x4 or a SUV, or a pickup, but also a horse box: as soon as you have a vehicle that you use almost exclusively to transport the horses, why bother with a car + trailer when you can have both in one?
Also, a trailer can only transport 2, max 3 horses. A horse box will easily fit up to 8 or 12 (for the truck-sized ones), so professionals might have a small trailer for when they only need to transport a couple of horses, but also a horse box for when they need to carry more.
Basically, both things exist and have different uses for different cases. It's almost as if not all people are the same!
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@remi said in In other news today...:
There are some in rural areas, but very few in suburban ones, for that reason.
I know someone who has one, but he uses it for his business which it is rather well suited to.
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
This makes less sense than one of @anotherusername's Markov chains
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Looks like there are innocent casualties as well:
Police said that tyres on the cars in Lownorth Road, Wythenshawe, less than half a mile from the airport, had also been let down.
However, one of the cars that was targeted was actually owned by someone who was visiting friends in the street.
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@Jaloopa said in In other news today...:
This makes less sense than one of @anotherusername's Markov chains
It makes sense just fine if you know the rules of baseball.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mlp_Gcc_5Q
you can always spot the baseball players
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@PJH said in In other news today...:
The story I got from my local TV news website included a puzzling choice of photos:
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
Benidorm is in Spain.
It certainly feels like a British territoire d'outre-mer
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
It certainly feels like a British territoire d'outre-mer
Not enough like one according to the old woman in the article.
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@loopback0
I bet there where fruits-de-mer in her paĂŤlla
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
fruits-de-mer in her paĂŤlla
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@loopback0 you've got your coco de mer mixed with your frutti di mare.
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@PJH said in In other news today...:
The story I got from my local TV news website included a puzzling choice of photos:
In case they change it:
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In a paper published this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers report that they have found a way to break spaghetti in two, by both bending and twisting the dry noodles.
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@anotherusername said in In other news today...:
@Jaloopa said in In other news today...:
This makes less sense than one of @anotherusername's Markov chains
It makes sense just fine if you know the rules of baseball.
For the benefit of those who don't (still assuming some basic knowledge of the game):
"Two outs, bottom of the ninth" It's the end of the game, and the batting team is behind in the score (Otherwise, the game would already be over; there's no need to play the last half-inning if the batting team is already ahead. That's also why the game ends immediately when they score one more run than the other team; that's the meaning of "walk-off.")
"Bases loaded" The batting team has three runners on base, representing the possibility of scoring 3 runs. (The batter is a fourth potential run, but that turns out not to be relevant here.) The batting team happens to be two runs behind, so the second of those runs would tie the game; the third would win it.
"Three strikes; you're out" â unless the catcher drops the ball. In that case, the ball is still in play, and the batter has the opportunity to attempt to run to first base as if he had hit the ball; he must either be tagged out or thrown out, just like an ordinary play.
Reaching first base on a dropped third strike is rare in professional baseball. Dropped third strikes themselves are fairly common, but most of the time the ball stays within arm's-reach of the catcher, who simply picks it up and either tags the batter or makes a leisurely throw to first, and the batter rarely makes significant effort to run. In this case, however, the ball bounced quite far from the catcher, and the batter was alert enough to run quickly. He would likely still have been out, but the catcher made a bad throw.
The ball went past the first baseman into right field. By the time the right fielder retrieved the errant ball, the first two runners had scored, tying the game. He threw the ball to home in an attempt to prevent the third runner from scoring, but was too late. The run scored, putting the batting team ahead and immediately ending the game.
In the meantime, once he reached first base safely, the batter-become-runner became mostly irrelevant, as long as he didn't somehow manage to get himself called out before the third runner scored (which would have ended the game and prevented the runner from scoring), which would have required him to do something really boneheaded.
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
@loopback0
I bet there where fruits-de-mer in her paĂŤllaWhere?
Also, now I'm hungry. Well, I was already hungry, but now I'm even hungrier. There used to be a restaurant â I think it was Cuban â around here that served a paella de mariscos that you had to order 24 hours in advance so they could get the fresh seafood. I wonder if they're still around.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
"Three strikes; you're out" â unless the catcher drops the ball. In that case, the ball is still in play, and the batter has the opportunity to attempt to run to first base as if he had hit the ball; he must either be tagged out or thrown out, just like an ordinary play.
Unless there's a runner on first, in which case the batter is out, unless there are two outs, in which case the batter can run and the runner on first is forced to second. That second "unless" is what happened in the video.
Edit: I wonder if this kind of rule pedantry is why I like C++ ...
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@PJH said in In other news today...:
The story I got from my local TV news website included a puzzling choice of photos:
I only saw one...
In case they change it:
Ah. They did, which initially had me puzzled:
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@PJH The picture I posted I got from the onebox, as the picture in the article was already the one in your post. I'm still seeing the rhinos in the onebox, but it might be caching.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
For the benefit of those who don't (still assuming some basic knowledge of the game):
inigo_montoya.png
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@PJH said in In other news today...:
The story I got from my local TV news website included a puzzling choice of photos:
In case they change it:
They apparently did change it, but in the preview it still shows this one. And it shouldn't be caching, since I didn't load the thread between the post and the moment when it was already changed.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
@Benjamin-Hall said in In other news today...:
I'd guess the big difference is that in the US, pickup trucks are quite common. From what I understand, they're not so common in Europe
Right; but it's not like there's some mysterious force-field that envelops Europe and if a pickup truck enters it it dissolves into magical butterflies, right?
And if you own horses, wouldn't that be a pretty good reason to buy one? Even if you don't need it for the horse trailer, it's handy for things like: their feed, the equipment needed to re-shoe one, etc.
From my own experience (with horses), pick-ups are not necessarily that much more convenient than any large car (i.e. 4x4 or SUV), on balance. Most stuff that you need to haul around when taking the horses on a trip can fit into a standard car (btw, most people also don't have "the equipment needed to re-shoe one", unless by that you just mean a couple of hand tools that fit into any grooming box with brushes and the like... real farrier's work is too complicated and only specialists do it), and when you don't have that much stuff to carry a pickup isn't really suited to European roads/cities/parking spaces etc. There are some in rural areas, but very few in suburban ones, for that reason.
But regardless of pickups, trailers are common here, most people who only own a couple of horses have one. You don't need a pickup to haul a trailer, any reasonably-sized car can do it.
In the end, many horse-owners end up having two vehicles (at least), a small-ish one for day-to-day business and a large-ish one for hauling the horses. That last one can be either a 4x4 or a SUV, or a pickup, but also a horse box: as soon as you have a vehicle that you use almost exclusively to transport the horses, why bother with a car + trailer when you can have both in one?
Also, a trailer can only transport 2, max 3 horses. A horse box will easily fit up to 8 or 12 (for the truck-sized ones), so professionals might have a small trailer for when they only need to transport a couple of horses, but also a horse box for when they need to carry more.
Basically, both things exist and have different uses for different cases. It's almost as if not all people are the same!
I don't hang around horse circles, but every single horse trailer (or livestock trailer in general) that I've seen used a gooseneck hitch, which can only be hooked up to a pickup truck and not a van or SUV (as far as I know, I"m sure someone will be along to and explain some really weird scenario).
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
And it shouldn't be caching, since I didn't load the thread between the post and the moment when it was already changed.
I't imagine iFramely bakes it in at the point of posting rather than being dynamicly loaded every time the post is viewed
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@Jaloopa Might be.
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@mott555 said in In other news today...:
every single horse trailer (or livestock trailer in general) that I've seen used a gooseneck hitch, which can only be hooked up to a pickup truck and not a van or SUV
From quick search there is a difference between the USA and about anywhere else. In America you have several sizes of tow hitches, but elsewhere (including Europe) one-size-fits-all tends to be used, so then you can attach to anything (as long as it is rated for the weight).
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
In the meantime, once he reached first base safely, the batter-become-runner became mostly irrelevant, as long as he didn't somehow manage to get himself called out before the third runner scored (which would have ended the game and prevented the runner from scoring),
Unless he got himself called out after the second runner scored but before the third runner scored, which would have ended the inning, prevented the runner from scoring, and sent the game into extra innings.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
attach to anything (as long as it is rated for the weight).
How do they manage tongue weight in other regions? Heavy loads on a bumper hitch tend to lift your front tires into the air, which is bad for many different reasons. Gooseneck hitches put the load directly over the rear axle so it doesn't apply a torque to your vehicle.
IIRC even my 2500HD is only rated for ~600 pounds tongue weight on the bumper hitch, while the gooseneck hitch is somewhere upwards of 3,000 pounds.
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Apple's trying to argue that all their buildings are worth $200.
Some claims reflect extreme differences in estimated values. In one appeal filed in 2015, Apple said that a cluster of properties in and around Apple Park in Cupertino that the assessor valued at $1 billion was worth just $200. In another, property that the assessor valued at $384 million was, in Appleâs view, worth $200, according to an appeal application.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
"Three strikes; you're out" â unless the catcher drops the ball. In that case, the ball is still in play, and the batter has the opportunity to attempt to run to first base as if he had hit the ball; he must either be tagged out or thrown out, just like an ordinary play.
If the catcher drops the third strike then the batter has the option of running to first prior to being tagged or the ball being thrown to first base (forced out). If first base is occupied, the batter is out, unless there are two outs, then the batter and the runners can advance and the batter must be tagged or forced out.
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@blakeyrat said in In other news today...:
Apple's trying to argue that all their buildings are worth $200.
Some claims reflect extreme differences in estimated values. In one appeal filed in 2015, Apple said that a cluster of properties in and around Apple Park in Cupertino that the assessor valued at $1 billion was worth just $200. In another, property that the assessor valued at $384 million was, in Appleâs view, worth $200, according to an appeal application.
Wonder how they'd react if someone offered to buy their building for, say, ten times their estimation. Assuming no one has done that already.