WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
NodeOS
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actually......
i could build that......Someone did. We've discussed it here before.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
NodeOS
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actually......
i could build that......Someone did. We've discussed it here before.
curses!
foiled again!
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
, I start installing and get to the part where Microsoft tries to force you to sign in with a Microsoft account.
As I remember, part of the agreement with Insider Builds is that you login with an MS account.
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
no. i'm mischievous. that only turns into evil if i actually write NodeOS.
Please, go ahead, make me right
i might.... i might.... if i can maintain my focu.... OOOH! that's a pretty flower!
/me wonders if he can disguise certain body parts as "pretty flower"...
I believe you lack the proper anatomy for that. :-P
That's kinda the point of disguise, no?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
no. i'm mischievous. that only turns into evil if i actually write NodeOS.
Please, go ahead, make me right
i might.... i might.... if i can maintain my focu.... OOOH! that's a pretty flower!
/me wonders if he can disguise certain body parts as "pretty flower"...
I believe you lack the proper anatomy for that. :-P
That's kinda the point of disguise, no?
that would be a hell of a disguise.....
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
, I start installing and get to the part where Microsoft tries to force you to sign in with a Microsoft account.
As I remember, part of the agreement with Insider Builds is that you login with an MS account.
Never had to before. Just tried the latest (15014) and was able to skip that part. Just another of the endless series of bugs/regressions.
Windows 10 is sort of like the of operating systems.
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@El_Heffe complaining about bugs in early access insider builds is more for the feedback portal than random websites, I'd have thought
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@El_Heffe As long as the builds they release to the public don't have them, I don't mind quite as much. But they should definitely have better testing against regressions...
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@El_Heffe said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Now Microsoft is just trolling people.
Let's try the latest Insider pre-release build (15007). After a quick hard drive swap so I can do a clean install and not contaminate anything, I start installing and get to the part where Microsoft tries to force you to sign in with a Microsoft account. I try to skip that part, as always, but get stuck in a loop where it won't let me advance any farther.
OK, fuck you Microsoft, I'll sign in with my Microsoft account. After a couple of failed attempts I realize i have no idea what my password is. So I click on forgot password and Windows says it will e-mail me a code I can enter.
So now I can't proceed any further until i enter the code, but I can't get the code because I HAVEN'T FINISHED INSTALLING WINDOWS YET.
That particular bug is fixed in 15014 by the way :)
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@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@accalia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
no. i'm mischievous. that only turns into evil if i actually write NodeOS.
Please, go ahead, make me right
i might.... i might.... if i can maintain my focu.... OOOH! that's a pretty flower!
/me wonders if he can disguise certain body parts as "pretty flower"...
I believe you lack the proper anatomy for that. :-P
That's kinda the point of disguise, no?
that would be a hell of a disguise.....
It would be worth you though, right? I wanna fox!
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@RaceProUK said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Why is the US still using imperial units?
They don't: they use units that share names with Imperial units, but are different sizes (for fluid volumes)
Now, now, that's not entirely accurate.
Technically, you are mostly correct. The United States uses what is often referred to as "US Customary Units". The name seems silly to me, because they are mostly the same units that were in use throughout the British Empire in the 18th century, a system that was referred to as the Winchester Standards.
Where it does not use the metric system, the United Kingdom currently uses British Imperial units, also referred to as the Exchequer Standards of 1825. This system is informally referred to as imperial units.
Overall, the only real differences are fluid and dry volumes which aren't measured in cubic lengths (e.g., ft3). Imperial bushels, pecks, (dry) gallons, etc. are about 3% larger than the US customary counterparts. When it comes to fluid measure, the imperial gallon, quart, pint, and gill are about 20% larger than their US counterparts, but the imperial fluid ounce is 4% smaller. These differences make it important to note that there are differences in both fluid and dry volume units.
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@abarker It took 49 days for someone to pull me up by my spines on that one
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Deleting an event in the Calendar app.
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Also, did anyone notice this? If I right-click the taskbar and click "Show windows stacked" or "Show windows side-by-side", my two windows are arranged so that they fill 1/3rd of the screen each, and the 3rd 3rd of the screen is left empty. What might be causing this invisible third window?
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Also, did anyone notice this? If I right-click the taskbar and click "Show windows stacked" or "Show windows side-by-side", my two windows are arranged so that they fill 1/3rd of the screen each, and the 3rd 3rd of the screen is left empty. What might be causing this invisible third window?
No repro here. Windows 10 (latest non-preview build), chrome and discord open. The windows stack normally taking up 1/2 of the space each.
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@marczellm For me, my two windows each take up 1/6th of the screen as if there are four invisible windows I can't see.
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@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
as if there are four invisible windows I can't see.
How likely is it that there are windows that are indeed hidden but hidden improperly?
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@Tsaukpaetra well I discovered it seems to be UWP applications. I opened the Weather app and it opened scrunched up in one of the positions already, and the same thing happened when I opened the Calculator app. Normally they remember how I had them. I hadn't opened them previously since starting my system today, so their windows somehow just exist at startup.
EDIT: Photos app took another spot.
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
What might be causing this invisible third window?
It's the telemetry window
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
One of these days MS will figure out how to preserve your network connections during elevation. I mean, it complains when trying to map with different username/password, so clearly it must know about it, so why not re-use it? What possible security ramification is being used that this can't be a thing?
A snippet from the startup script I apply to all the school workstations::: Get rid of the Windows 7 elevated vs. non-elevated drive mapping stupidity reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System /v EnableLinkedConnections /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
Status: Cleaning my inbox. Found this gem.
Thanks @flabdablet!
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I suppose you're referring to
? ;)
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I suppose you're referring to
? ;)Yeah. Back when long-names were a thing. And for some reason the forum tracked your every breath.
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@marczellm said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Also, did anyone notice this? If I right-click the taskbar and click "Show windows stacked" or "Show windows side-by-side", my two windows are arranged so that they fill 1/3rd of the screen each, and the 3rd 3rd of the screen is left empty. What might be causing this invisible third window?
It does that on my system but I have some always open, position locked windows that Explorer doesn't know to ignore.
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Microsoft just realized something
John Cable, Microsoft's Windows director of program management. "We also heard that unexpected reboots are disruptive if they happen at the wrong time."
Are you fuckin kidding me ?
People had to tell you that, you couldn't figure it out yourself ???
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
One of these days MS will figure out how to preserve your network connections during elevation. I mean, it complains when trying to map with different username/password, so clearly it must know about it, so why not re-use it? What possible security ramification is being used that this can't be a thing?
A snippet from the startup script I apply to all the school workstations::: Get rid of the Windows 7 elevated vs. non-elevated drive mapping stupidity reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System /v EnableLinkedConnections /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
Status: Cleaning my inbox. Found this gem.
Thanks @flabdablet!
Thank you @flabdablet indeed. And thank you @Tsaukpaetra for bumping it!
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Keep up the good work MS, soon you'll have something close to KDE's user-friendliness
I'm told that X-like primary selection clipboards would cause Windows to crash and explode your monitor.
What I hate the most is when programs try to emulate that with Windows's single clipboard. "People like having two different clipboards they can access quickly? Well, we can give you two different methods of accidentally copying things to your clipboard."
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@ben_lubar said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Keep up the good work MS, soon you'll have something close to KDE's user-friendliness
I'm told that X-like primary selection clipboards would cause Windows to crash and explode your monitor.
What I hate the most is when programs try to emulate that with Windows's single clipboard. "People like having two different clipboards they can access quickly? Well, we can give you two different methods of accidentally copying things to your clipboard."
And now in Windows 10, Quick-Edit mode (i.e. the behaviour described) is enabled BY DEFAULT in console windows! FFS!
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Urgh.
It's nice that the URL ends with "eh, ball gag reviews"
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@flabdablet said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@RaceProUK said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Ads in an OS you paid at least $80 for is fine?
Commercial system comes with commercials. Film at 11.
Remember, if you're paying for the product, you are the product.
—Microsoft, probably
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@ben_lubar Err, wait, that doesn't sound quite rig..... oooooooooooooooooooh
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And now in Windows 10, Quick-Edit mode (i.e. the behaviour described) is enabled BY DEFAULT in console windows! FFS!
That doesn't bother me. I always changed my console properties to that. Yea! No longer need to mess with that!
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
And now in Windows 10, Quick-Edit mode (i.e. the behaviour described) is enabled BY DEFAULT in console windows! FFS!
That doesn't bother me. I always changed my console properties to that. Yea! No longer need to mess with that!
I wouldn't mind it if being in "selection mode" didn't also block the program while it waits for stdout to be available for write again. I could understand freezing the window, but blocking output?! I can't tell you how many times I've been debugging a program only for it to mysteriously freeze unexpectedly until I realized a stray click selected a single character.
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Windows 10 : the Facebook of OS
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Yay. More ads in more places. Just what I want in an operating system I have to pay a lot of money for. Because paying once for the license and "paying" for the use by being subjected to ads is totally the right way of doing things. Between this and all the other anti-features they keep on introducing even macOS is looking like a better option, even for powerusers, and it's also starting to make Windows 8 look good in comparision. Just... sigh
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I smell another antitrust lawsuit in the near future…
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Forced updates strike again
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Well, at least Windows Update itself doesn't bother me anymore. It manages to install updates in an unobtrusive way, surprisingly. After being VERY obtrusive in the past, worst being losing 4 hours of work when it went and ignored my (repeated) choice of postponing the reboot. Although a friend who only uses Windows by necessity gets screwed over by it all the time, as whenever he boots into it there will be inevitable updates which MUST BE INSTALLED NOW and then his computer is locked down until Windows is satisfied.
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And then the murders began.
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thisisdonovan said in thurrott.com
Making us pay for windows 10 and then include ads is a bit rich.
I payed for windows 7 and upgraded to windows 10 during the free upgrade period, essentially doing Microsoft a >favour in the process.
They shouldn't spam my computer.
Letting them spam your computer was the favour.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
it's
also starting to makealways made Windows87 look good in comparisionFTFY.
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@anotherusername Actually depends on the definition of look. I prefer the overall looks of Windows 8/10 to Windows 7. Start menu/screen is a pile of shit, though, both for looks and usability. And FastBoot can go jump off a cliff for being a massive waste only designed to make Windows look better in startup times by being filled with fakery and badness.
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Windows 10 Creator Update brings some nice innovations:
- Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application
- Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity)
Innovations found in KDE for years:
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Picture-in-Picture mode
I'm assuming that's an edge-only feature?
also, funny how a "Creator" update has a feature that is solely to be used for consumption
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Picture-in-Picture mode for videos
Yeah, only with the Movies App though. Everyone else has to suffer with a utility that makes the window "always on top", courtesy of Windows API available since 95.
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@Tsaukpaetra So it's pretty much the same feature that Apple put in Sierra, where videos from Safari and iTunes can be put in a small always-on-top window somewhere on the screen.
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@boomzilla The defaults? As far as I know, the whole thing is configurable.
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Windows Console's legacy blue