Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition


  • FoxDev

    you just said it.

    no, i'm serious, and if you think about it you'll think of why....

    @sockbot

    EDIT: (unhid the summon) huh. forgot this was one of blakeys... well the feature where the bots ignore topics started by certain people has been tested....



  • @abarker said:

    My bullshit comment still stands.

    I found a much better reference. Actual quote from the Army Corps of Engineers:

    In the 1940s approximately 1,500 acres in the southern portion of the LOOW production area were transferred to the Manhattan Engineering District (MED), which later became the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and then the Department of Energy (DOE). From the 1950s to the 1980s this area was used for various activities including the production of high energy fuel, and storage of radioactive materials during the development of the atomic bomb.


  • Can't remember if this has been mentioned and can't be bothered to check.

    This is Australia where we drive on the left.

    On a two lane road at a crossroad controlled by traffic lights I often see someone sat in the right hand lane. They would appear to be going straight on, leaving the left lane for those turning left. When the light goes green they turn their indicator on but have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear.

    Similarly, when someone is at a T-junction where they have to wait for traffic before turning right they sit in the middle of the lane so that a left turner can't get through.



  • Fine, @accalia



  • Let's see if I can translate this...

    @RTapeLoadingError said:

    Can't remember if this has been mentioned and can't be bothered to check.

    This is Australia not Australia where we drive on the right.

    On a two lane road at a crossroad controlled by traffic lights I often see someone sat in the left hand lane. They would appear to be going straight on, leaving the right lane for those turning right. When the light goes green they turn their indicator on but have to wait for oncoming traffic to clear.

    Similarly, when someone is at a T-junction where they have to wait for traffic before turning left they sit in the middle of the lane so that a right turner can't get through.



  • @Jaime said:

    What makes you think that driving slower is the same as driving safer? Children break when hit at speeds far lower than even the school zone speed.

    There's a rather [s]good[/s] horrifying PSA they aired in the UK a while back (actually a whole series, but this is the one that scarred me the most) about it.

    And that's quite apart from the fact that if you're going slower when a child steps out in front of you:
    a. You have more time to try to stop before you travel the same distance and
    b. It takes you less time to stop.
    More time to stop + stopping takes less time = much more likely to stop and not hit them at all.



  • @Jaime said:

    Ahhh... the "you used the wrong place name" comeback. Clever.

    First, I excused you at the very start:

    @abarker said:

    I know you were just quoting something you read

    Second, it's called pedantry, you asshat. I grew up in Richland, so it bugs me when people try referring to a town that hasn't existed for about 70 years. Especially since "Hanford" can refer to any of the following when used in that part of Washington:

    • Hanford High School, located in northern Richland. Was originally a K-12 school, later a co-located high school and middle school (seperate buildings on the same campus), now just a high school.
    • Hanford Nuclear Reservation, we already discussed this.
    • Hanford Reach, the last free-flowing stretch of the Columbia River, approximately 50 miles long, mostly located within the Hanford Nuclear Reservation.
    • Hanford National Monument, a large area of land, situated around the Hanford Reach. The Hanford National Monument was designated to continue preserving the Hanford Reach once the Hanford Nuclear Reservation is hut down.
    • The site of abandoned Hanford, Washington, where the remains of some buildings, including the original Hanford school, are still standing.

    To avoid confusion, it is best to be specific and not just use Hanford, Washington. This is what necessitated my pedantry.

    As for your insinuation that I had nothing more to say in regards to your previous post, I refer you back to the post I made prior to my initial comments regarding the improper use of Hanford, Washington:

    @abarker said:

    @Jaime said:
    One of the three quotes was Radium related, the other two were Uranium. If you are going to simply pick the least useful information from my post and pretend the rest didn't happen ...

    Actually, it was the most useful information, as it actually stated how close it was to the school. The K-65 stuff said nothing about proximity to anything, so it was not very useful to the conversation at hand.



  • @chubertdev said:

    Yes, but the schools that I went to also varied, especially by level. But at least I have a general idea of when school is in session and when it isn't. If it's around the beginning or end of the school year, you take it easy. But if it's July 18, and there are no kids visible, and the parking lot is empty, it's a safe bet that school is not in session.

    Did you miss this part?

    @abarker said:

    Some are year round


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    Another one for school zone annoyances:

    On my way to and from my son's daycare, I pass through a school zone. This school zone has the "Your speed is X" signs that show how fast someone on the 4 lane + turn lane street is driving. OK, all well and good. It helps people to be mindful of their speed.

    Here's the problem, the sign flashes at you when someone in traffic is traveling faster than 25. The focus of the radar speed detection is apparently not very narrow because I have seen it occasionally get confused or something and flash to 99, when no one is traveling over ~35. And, for the real annoyance...it is not on a timer. The regular, outside of school hours, speed limit is 45. If you are traveling through that zone at 10PM at 45mph, the stupid thing flashes at you. I am not speeding, you silly sign. You should only be active from 7AM - 4:30PM.


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    @abarker said:

    it bugs me when people try referring to a town that hasn't existed for about 70 years

    Dang, people from Hanford are touchy bastards.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @boomzilla said:

    Dang, people from Hanford are touchy bastards.

    That was the downfall of the Roman Empire also.



  • @Intercourse said:

    Another one for school zone annoyances:

    On my way to and from my son's daycare, I pass through a school zone. This school zone has the "Your speed is X" signs that show how fast someone on the 4 lane + turn lane street is driving. OK, all well and good. It helps people to be mindful of their speed.

    Here's the problem, the sign flashes at you when someone in traffic is traveling faster than 25. The focus of the radar speed detection is apparently not very narrow because I have seen it occasionally get confused or something and flash to 99, when no one is traveling over ~35. And, for the real annoyance...it is not on a timer. The regular, outside of school hours, speed limit is 45. If you are traveling through that zone at 10PM at 45mph, the stupid thing flashes at you. I am not speeding, you silly sign. You should only be active from 7AM - 4:30PM.

    Why spend money on a timer, when you can slow down people?


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @chubertdev said:

    Why spend money on a timer, when you can slow down people?

    They will know why, when I start my rampage.


  • BINNED

    @Intercourse said:

    On my way to and from my son's daycare, I pass through a school zone. This school zone has the "Your speed is X" signs that show how fast someone on the 4 lane + turn lane street is driving. OK, all well and good. It helps people to be mindful of their speed.

    I generally ignore those unless there's a police car nearby.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @chubertdev said:

    But it is a Spoked B.

    Too bad it wasn't made custom specifically for one person, so it could have been a bespoke spoked B.



  • @antiquarian said:

    I generally ignore those unless there's a police car nearby.

    I try to set the high score.



  • Discosearch does not reveal anything similar to this posted yet. Driving to work this morning at approximately the speed limit (60 mph; ~97 kph) in the middle lane, I passed a car in the right lane going rather slower than the limit, and a bit slower than other cars in the slow lane (i.e., there were cars right behind him, but a gap in front of him). I passed him pretty quickly, so I didn't get a real good look, but I'd almost swear he was reading a book; he was holding something about the size, shape and appearance of a paperback book in front of the steering wheel. I have, on previous occasions definitely seen people reading newspapers or putting on makeup while driving.



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    Discosearch does not reveal anything similar to this posted yet. Driving to work this morning at approximately the speed limit (60 mph; ~97 kph) in the middle lane, I passed a car in the right lane going rather slower than the limit, and a bit slower than other cars in the slow lane (i.e., there were cars right behind him, but a gap in front of him). I passed him pretty quickly, so I didn't get a real good look, but I'd almost swear he was reading a book; he was holding something about the size, shape and appearance of a paperback book in front of the steering wheel. I have, on previous occasions definitely seen people reading newspapers or putting on makeup while driving.

    Texting on his phablet?



  • Maybe. From the quick glimpse I got, it looked thicker than that, and I thought I saw a crease down the middle, but it was just a quick glimpse; I could be wrong about either or both of those.



  • @Jaime said:

    What makes you think that driving slower is the same as driving safer?

    Are you retarded or just trolling?


  • kills Dumbledore

    "Speed kills" is an oversimplification. inappropriate speed kills


  • Fake News

    Inappropriate deceleration.


  • FoxDev

    @Jaloopa said:

    "Speed kills" is an oversimplification. inappropriate speed kills

    It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end.


  • kills Dumbledore

    Are you hurt?
    No, the ground broke my fall



  • @another_sam said:

    Are you retarded or just trolling?

    We already did a massive scale experiment. Speed limits all over the US were lowered in 1974 and then raised in 1995. No change in accident rate was found in either case that pointed to a correlation between speed and safety.


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    @Jaime said:

    We already did a massive scale experiment. Speed limits all over the US were lowered in 1974 and then raised in 1995. No change in accident rate was found in either case that pointed to a correlation between speed and safety.

    Did you test with fat people, too? OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T. Hater.


  • kills Dumbledore

    I hear at least one woman has been injured putting hir makeup on, that makes it a FEMINIST ISSUE!!eleven


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    INB4 "All Americans are fat."



  • @boomzilla said:

    INB4 "All Americans are fat."

    I'm an American, and I'm not fat. Hell, I've only gained 10 pounds since high school, and my doctor thinks I could afford to gain another 5.


  • FoxDev

    @abarker said:

    and my doctor thinks I could afford to gain another 5.

    want some of mine? My doctor is under the impression that i couls stand to lose about 10 of the things...



  • @accalia said:

    want some of mine?

    Not sure how that would work ...


  • FoxDev

    reverse liposuction?


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    @abarker said:

    I'm an American, and I'm not fat.

    Well, INB4 No True American is fat.


  • FoxDev

    @boomzilla said:

    Well, INB4 No True American is fat.

    *ahem*

    the correct term is "Morbidly Obese"

    "Mortally Obese" would also be acceptable, but less polite.



  • @boomzilla said:

    INB4 "All Americans are fat."

    It really depends on how one wants to define the word "are". One of the definitions on Wiktionary.com for "be" (singular form of "are") is

    Used to link a subject to a count or measurement.

    • This building is three hundred years old.
    • It is almost eight.
    • I am 75 kilograms.

    Using that definition, "All Americans are fat" could mean that all Americans are made of fat. Since that sentence does not specify a quantity, it is technically true since all Americans have some fat somewhere in their body. They are not completely fat, but they are some fat. (To head off at the pass any pedants who may comment about some rare genetic disorder leading to 0% body fat, cell membranes contain lipids which are a type of fat, so even those people are fat in the sense I'm proposing.)

    I am fat and proud! If I was not fat, I'd have no cell membranes, and that would not be good.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Well, INB4 No True American is fat.

    It's not my fault! I've tried gaining weight! My body is working against me! Stupid high metabolism



  • @mott555 said:

    I'd have no cell membranes, and that would not be good.

    And it's just that kind of in-the-box thinking that would keep me from hiring you.

    📥


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    @abarker said:

    It's not my fault! I've tried gaining weight! My body is working against me!

    Not a problem. I gotcha covered.



  • According to the BMI scale, I'm obese. But I look skinny...



  • @chubertdev said:

    According to the BMI scale, I'm obese. But I look skinny...

    Are you shorter than average?



  • No, I'm 6' 3".



  • @chubertdev said:

    No, I'm 6' 3".

    Hmmm, I thought the BMI calculations tended to be low for taller people ... did I misremember?


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    I think the key is how much muscle you have, not necessarily height.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I think the key is how much muscle you have, not necessarily height.

    BMI is calculated based on weight and height. The equation and target range were derived in the 1840s for men of average height.1 As a result of a shortcoming in the BMI formula, short people end up thinking they are skinnier than they are, and tall people end up thinking they are fatter than they are.2, 3 Also, because it is just a formula, the BMI calculation doesn't take into account the amount of muscle in your body, or your individual bone density. As a result, athletes are often flagged as overweight by BMI calculations.

    This is all because the BMI formula was developed by a mathemetician not a physician. The man only had an interest in coming up with a formula to fit his data. He did not have an interest in coming up with a formula to predict health.

    1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index
    2 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265215.php
    3 @chubertdev: I did misremember. Sorry!


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    @abarker said:

    the BMI calculation doesn't take into account the amount of muscle in your body

    I definitely have too much belly fat, but even if I lost all of it, I'd be at least "overweight" due to this.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I definitely have too much belly fat, but even if I lost all of it, I'd be at least "overweight" due to this.

    I definitely have too much belly/backside fat, but I wouldn't be much lighter if some of it went away (and it will next year).



  • @Jaloopa said:

    "Speed kills" is an oversimplification.

    Indeed. We have road signs that have those exact two words on them and they piss me off.

    @Jaloopa said:

    inappropriate speed kills

    I'm pretty sure we were talking about school zones and other pedestrian-heavy places. In those places it is absolutely the case that speed kills. Pedestrian collisions at 40km/h are painful, at 60km/h they're deadly. In a potential collision situation at 40km/h you have all the time in the world to react and a very short stopping distance once you begin to brake. At 60km/h you've covered another half of the distance before you even get your foot on the brake and you've doubled the distance you will cover while you're braking.



  • @Jaime said:

    No change in accident rate was found in either case that pointed to a correlation between speed and safety.

    Highways are very very different for so many reasons to school zones, which is what we were talking about.



  • Have I posted this yet?

    EDIT:

    hehe
    http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/driving-anti-patterns-toxic-waste-and-buffalo-edition/3300/187



  • @boomzilla said:

    INB4 "All Americans are fat."

    Aww, spoil all my fun. 😦


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