Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness
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@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@acrow said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
But maybe some kind of high-level package list, with dependencies resolved without user intervention.
It already exist
I think @acrow was thinking about something the likes of:
(too lazy to look for screenshots of the GUI version)
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@TimeBandit Removing nano? Must be a troll
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@hungrier said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit Removing nano? Must be
a trollan idiotFTFY
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@hungrier said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit Removing nano? Must be a troll
Yeah, I need that to set up the network on the server so the install script can
apt-get install vim
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@Onyx I'm pretty sure I once bricked a CentOS CLI-only install with vim by corrupting some important startup script while trying to exit the text editor.
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@mott555 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Onyx I'm pretty sure I once bricked a CentOS CLI-only install with vim by corrupting some important startup script while trying to exit the text editor.
Contrary to common belief, you don't have to press the reset button to exit vim
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@TimeBandit Who needs the reset button when you can pull the power cord?
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@TimeBandit I know, but I wasn't going to mention it. We already scared @Parody away.
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@hungrier said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@TimeBandit Who needs the reset button when you can pull the power cord?
That's how I have to reset my cable modem, and it's a lot newer and more modern than vim.
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@topspin said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
Just got a Windows Insider email...
Dark Theme is so yesterday (to our users, "hear that?!?"). Windows now has a new Light Theme! It's lighter and brighter! (their words).
Oh, and Intelligent Active Hours "so Windows updates don't get in the way of your busy schedule." (with a subscript: Features may be available in select markets; yadayadayada)
Ah, you mean the one @loopback0 reported on?
How about some screenshots:
Fuck brighter!
I work in an office and not in my mom's basement, so I'm going with "fuck dark mode!"
I work in an office too. Fuck brighter!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Scarlet_Manuka said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I mean, yes, your way would be nicer. But at this point I don't think it's within Microsoft's capabilities to actually deliver.
It's impossible for Microsoft to deliver something like this.
Indeed! It's even more impossible for this to have a remnant in Windows 10.
Sadly, they removed the themed grouping and icons. :(
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Silly Microsoft... At it again...
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@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Silly Microsoft... At it again...
The update they're talking about is for 1803. You can continue on with 1809 confident that it doesn't have this problem!
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@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Silly Microsoft... At it again...
One of the primary reasons I have WSUS only approving updates that are at least two weeks old and not recalled.
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Speaking of updates... There I was playing Candy Crush. Put the machine down (I lost, was getting ready to try again), went in the kitchen, came back, machine had rebooted. Thanks for waiting. (it had just downloaded them as the machine had not been turned on since the weekend)
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
went in the kitchen, came back, machine had rebooted
Isn't forced updates wonderful?
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@TimeBandit said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
No, I don't work on your machine.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
There I was playing Candy Crush
We found the person who plays it!
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
There I was playing Candy Crush
We found the person who plays it!
I already admitted that in the status thread!
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@loopback0 said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
There I was playing Candy Crush
WeI found the person who plays it!FTF... someone I guess
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Speaking of updates... There I was playing Candy Crush. Put the machine down (I lost, was getting ready to try again), went in the kitchen, came back, machine had rebooted. Thanks for waiting. (it had just downloaded them as the machine had not been turned on since the weekend)
Yeah, crushing candy is more important than shooting aliens, so updates will defer in that case.
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Now with more uninformed beta testing
https://www.howtogeek.com/398226/now-windows-10-has-c-b-and-d-updates.-what-is-microsoft-smoking/
FFS ms"
In other words, Microsoft is using people who click the “Check for Updates” button as beta testers for quality fixes rather than relying on the Windows Insider program and its Release Preview ring. It’s bizarre, and it’s the same bad decision that made Microsoft roll out the unstable October 2018 Update to many Windows 10 users who didn’t want it.
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@swayde I sense that CBD was involved in this decision.
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@swayde: at least now there's official confirmation that running Windows 10 is a die toss.
I like how they named one version "19H1". Sounds like a flu virus strain, and it's the right season.
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Meanwhile, there's one feature of Windows 10 that works perfectly: data collection. Even when you explicitly disabled it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/a4lpg0/windows_10_still_collecting_activity_history/
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@Zerosquare
But of course! When someone's writing Word documents titled Global Offensive, there are folks who are very interested in what it has to say.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Zerosquare
But of course! When someone's writing Word documents titled Global Offensive, there are folks who are very interested in what it has to say.They'll find it on fanfiction.net under Counter Strike category, as usual. Fucking fanboys...
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@boomzilla said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Speaking of updates... There I was playing Candy Crush. Put the machine down (I lost, was getting ready to try again), went in the kitchen, came back, machine had rebooted. Thanks for waiting. (it had just downloaded them as the machine had not been turned on since the weekend)
Yeah, crushing candy is more important than shooting aliens, so updates will defer in that case.
Did you know that some games have a "Non-stop" mode that only allows a limited number of saves for a playthrough? The idea being to test your ability to beat the whole game in one go, presumably over one weekend, usually at "Nightmare" difficulty level or equivalent.
Forget Candy Crush. Imagine doing a 48h marathon of Dead Space with no saves, pausing to go to the loo, and returning to find your machine rebooted.
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
I sense that CBD was involved in this decision.
Pretty sure it requires some actual THC to get to that point.
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@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
In other words, Microsoft is using people who click the “Check for Updates” button as beta testers
Ah. So Microsoft is now doing exactly what every other company is doing. (sprint ends, push release)
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@acrow said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@boomzilla said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Speaking of updates... There I was playing Candy Crush. Put the machine down (I lost, was getting ready to try again), went in the kitchen, came back, machine had rebooted. Thanks for waiting. (it had just downloaded them as the machine had not been turned on since the weekend)
Yeah, crushing candy is more important than shooting aliens, so updates will defer in that case.
Did you know that some games have a "Non-stop" mode that only allows a limited number of saves for a playthrough? The idea being to test your ability to beat the whole game in one go, presumably over one weekend, usually at "Nightmare" difficulty level or equivalent.
Forget Candy Crush. Imagine doing a 48h marathon of Dead Space with no saves, pausing to go to the loo, and returning to find your machine rebooted.If you're that kind of masochist you should take a reboot in stride.
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@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
In other words, Microsoft is using people who click the “Check for Updates” button as beta testers
Ah. So Microsoft is now doing exactly what every other company is doing. (sprint ends, push release)
Yeah, that would be fine. The problem is using people who explicitly is not on the beta branch as beta testers ...
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@acrow said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Did you know that some games have a "Non-stop" mode that only allows a limited number of saves for a playthrough? The idea being to test your ability to beat the whole game in one go, presumably over one weekend, usually at "Nightmare" difficulty level or equivalent.
I think you're onto something. It looks like Windows 10 itself is stuck in "Nightmare" mode.
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@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@dcon said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@swayde said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
In other words, Microsoft is using people who click the “Check for Updates” button as beta testers
Ah. So Microsoft is now doing exactly what every other company is doing. (sprint ends, push release)
Yeah, that would be fine. The problem is using people who explicitly is not on the beta branch as beta testers ...
As I said...
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Yesterday macOS put up a "There is updates!" notification. Thinking it was an update that necessitates a reboot I told it to try later. When I actually checked if after I was done shooting aliens it was just a GarageBand update, so nothing requiring a system reboot.
So macOS is considerate enough to not even install updates for programs I'm not using at the moment in the background and wants to wait until I'm not using the computer by ASKING and RESPECTING the choice. Windows could learn something from that.
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@Atazhaia You can thank those users who never have time for updates but publicly blame and/or sue microsoft when they get hacked.
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For fuck's sake, Microsoft. Go fornicate with a rusty radioactive candiru or something. How difficult can it be to remember the keyboard layouts I had installed?
Previously, the April update gave me a bonus keyboard layout that took way too long to remove.
Later, the fall update helpfully reinstalled that layout, but I could actually remove it easily. This was before the update was retracted.
Some time after that, I got a new PC. Yesterday morning, the new version of the fall update arrived. And this time, it helpfully reinstalled TWO slightly different versions of that bonus keyboard layout. And then promptly forgot about them.Yes, you can see my locale in that pic. Congrats.
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@DCoder hmmm, I always thought I forgot to remove an extra keyboard layout (or Windows wouldn't let me, because "primary layout"), but this might've happened on my end as well thinking about it...
To clarify, my language is set to UK English, but I use a US keyboard layout (with WinCompose installed so I can type moon language characters when needed).
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@DCoder said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Yes, you can see my locale in that pic. Congrats.
You write English? Impossibru!
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@DCoder said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Yes, you can see my locale in that pic. Congrats.
:chang_looking_at_tiny_piece_of_paper:
I don't think I can.
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"Instead of relying on Windows Insiders, employees, and willing participants in testing updates, Microsoft has decided it is acceptable for regular users to receive patches before they are known to be stable if they click the "check for updates" button on their own. "
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@Atazhaia said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Yesterday macOS put up a "There is updates!" notification. Thinking it was an update that necessitates a reboot I told it to try later. When I actually checked if after I was done shooting aliens it was just a GarageBand update, so nothing requiring a system reboot.
So macOS is considerate enough to not even install updates for programs I'm not using at the moment in the background and wants to wait until I'm not using the computer by ASKING and RESPECTING the choice. Windows could learn something from that.
You mean like this setting here
https://i.imgur.com/RsHuwro.png
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@pie_flavor said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@Atazhaia said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
Yesterday macOS put up a "There is updates!" notification. Thinking it was an update that necessitates a reboot I told it to try later. When I actually checked if after I was done shooting aliens it was just a GarageBand update, so nothing requiring a system reboot.
So macOS is considerate enough to not even install updates for programs I'm not using at the moment in the background and wants to wait until I'm not using the computer by ASKING and RESPECTING the choice. Windows could learn something from that.
You mean like this setting here
https://i.imgur.com/RsHuwro.pngBecause of course MS would hide the "don't automatically update" setting behind something irrelevant.
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@pie_flavor Don't that setting just control wether or not downloads will automatically download over metered connections?
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@TimeBandit
Everyone knows lusers lie.Hell, even Dr. House knows THAT.
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@Atazhaia said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor Don't that setting just control wether or not downloads will automatically download over metered connections?
Yes. However, you can set any network connection as a metered connection. However however, that may not stop it from updating eventually anyway.
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@Atazhaia said in Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness:
@pie_flavor Don't that setting just control wether or not downloads will automatically download over metered connections?
Minus the 'just'.
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@Parody Oh, yeah, I remember that "hack". Set all connections as metered to prevent automatic downloads of updates.
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But it only worked with wireless connections, not wired ones.