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@Lorne-Kates Only to the extent that you get paid for sitting there and tapping at a keyboard.
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@pie_flavor I think that's unfair. He might have a standing desk!
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@pie_flavor said in Internet of shit:
Only to the extent that you get paid for sitting there and tapping at a keyboard.
I remember this from when they were trying to standardise the job roles at work a few years ago. The people doing this exercise wanted to characterise all IT and programming support as just “uses a computer”, just like a basic secretarial role. The response of the whole department, from new hires to senior managers, was basically “you fucking what?”
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@dkf Well, you are really just a glorified typist, aren’t you? Just like an airline pilot is little more than a glorified bus driver — the bus driver might actually be doing more than the airline pilot for the same amount of time of controlling the vehicle … Do you type as much as a secretary?
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
Do you type as much as a secretary?
I'd be fired as a secretary based on typing. But I know where the $0.10 widget is and how to use it! <insert story about that>
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For several years, Amazon and Google have collected data every time someone used a smart speaker to turn on a light or lock a door. Now they’re asking smart-home gadget makers such as Logitech and Hunter Fan Co. to send a continuous stream of information.
In other words, after you connect a light fixture to Alexa, Amazon wants to know every time the light is turned on or off, regardless of whether you asked Alexa to toggle the switch. Televisions must report the channel they’re set to. Smart locks must keep the company apprised whether or not the front door bolt is engaged.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
For several years, Amazon and Google have collected data every time someone used a smart speaker to turn on a light or lock a door. Now they’re asking smart-home gadget makers such as Logitech and Hunter Fan Co. to send a continuous stream of information.
In other words, after you connect a light fixture to Alexa, Amazon wants to know every time the light is turned on or off, regardless of whether you asked Alexa to toggle the switch. Televisions must report the channel they’re set to. Smart locks must keep the company apprised whether or not the front door bolt is engaged.
I just watched one of those dumb disaster movies last night - scientist who can stop a comet is kidnapped by insane religious kook who wants the world to end. I'm starting to think insane dude is right.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@dkf Well, you are really just a glorified typist, aren’t you? Just like an airline pilot is little more than a glorified bus driver — the bus driver might actually be doing more than the airline pilot for the same amount of time of controlling the vehicle … Do you type as much as a secretary?
It's a bit more like comparing an engineer to a preschooler. Because, you know. Engineers basically just figure out how to put things together, and preschoolers have those balls with holes for the shape blocks to fit into.
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@brie Hey! I resemble that remark.
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Behold Nike's Adapt BB self-lacing shoe. This isn't Nike's first self-lacing shoe, but it is its first connected shoe. Because it works with an app, Nike can update the shoe's features over time—like an operating system. They go on sale tomorrow for $350
Source: @Wired
Reposting this in the correct thread. It does suggest a rapid separation between idiots and their money, but it's not quite shitcoin material…
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@DCoder Some happy news regarding the Not-So-Smart Home:
Source: Lesley Carhart @hacks4pancakes
The collective cheering in the replies is .
Source: Lesley Carhart @hacks4pancakes
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@Gąska There are two approaches when it comes to reegulation: set mandatory "safe" rules ("do it this way") or set punishments ("do it whatever way you want, but if it fails you're paying a 100,000€ fine"), requiring an insurance company to provide collateral if the potential fine is bigger than the company.
The second one could be enough if the market worked well and companies were rational...
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@DCoder said in Internet of shit:
Behold Nike's Adapt BB self-lacing shoe. This isn't Nike's first self-lacing shoe, but it is its first connected shoe. Because it works with an app, Nike can update the shoe's features over time—like an operating system. They go on sale tomorrow for $350
Source: @Wired
Reposting this in the correct thread. It does suggest a rapid separation between idiots and their money, but it's not quite shitcoin material…
The Kapernick signed edition will administer electric shocks to the calves when detecting the national anthem.
Or so I’ve heard...
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At first, I thought you were advocating for gratuitous animal cruelty, which is a bit too much even for WTDWTF.
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@DCoder said in Internet of shit:
Behold Nike's Adapt BB self-lacing shoe. This isn't Nike's first self-lacing shoe, but it is its first connected shoe. Because it works with an app, Nike can update the shoe's features over time—like an operating system. They go on sale tomorrow for $350
Source: @Wired
Reposting this in the correct thread. It does suggest a rapid separation between idiots and their money, but it's not quite shitcoin material…
And now, some photos of the shoes in … er, inaction:
i just had to download a software update for my shoes which are now getting a charge on their USB-C wireless charging mat
we’re living in the future!!! 🤯
Source: @GK3
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@DCoder said in Internet of shit:
@DCoder said in Internet of shit:
Behold Nike's Adapt BB self-lacing shoe. This isn't Nike's first self-lacing shoe, but it is its first connected shoe. Because it works with an app, Nike can update the shoe's features over time—like an operating system. They go on sale tomorrow for $350
Source: @Wired
Reposting this in the correct thread. It does suggest a rapid separation between idiots and their money, but it's not quite shitcoin material…
i just had to download a software update for my shoes which are now getting a charge on their USB-C wireless charging mat
we’re living in the future!!! 🤯
Source: @GK3
Let's just hope they don't run any slower!
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@anonymous234 said in Internet of shit:
@Gąska There are two approaches when it comes to reegulation: set mandatory "safe" rules ("do it this way") or set punishments ("do it whatever way you want, but if it fails you're paying a 100,000€ fine"), requiring an insurance company to provide collateral if the potential fine is bigger than the company.
The second one could be enough if the market worked well and companies were rational...
Naw, you also need some strong "incentive" for the C-Level executives to have some of their own skin in the game.
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
Naw, you also need some strong "incentive" for the C-Level executives to have some of their own skin in the game.
Jail for any “responsible executive” (CEO, COO, CFO, …) who has sufficient strikes against them in this area? And coupled to that, a mandatory banning for life from being an executive or otherwise on a corporate board?
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@TimeBandit WTF is a smart basketball?
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The World’s first smart ball that puts you into the game as it tracks your shots on any court with a secure net
And for less than $300 US !
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
any court with a secure net
WTF is a secure net in this context? The thing made of string and attached to the hoop? That was my first thought, but what does it mean to be secure? Or network? And how does it keep track of your shots vs. the other guy's?
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
any court with a secure net
WTF is a secure net in this context? The thing made of string and attached to the hoop? That was my first thought, but what does it mean to be secure? Or network? And how does it keep track of your shots vs. the other guy's?
Maybe those are some reasons they're discontinuing it... Or they came to their senses...
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
WTF is a secure net in this context?
You have to put it behind a good firewall
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@TimeBandit But it's kinda hard to throw the ball through it if it's behind a wall.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
But it's kinda hard to throw the ball through it if it's behind a wall.
You just have to use a VPN.
Don't you know anything about security?
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit But it's kinda hard to throw the ball through it if it's behind a wall.
Could be short wall. Like a hedge. With lots of holes.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
There's got to be some better way. Maybe some kind of internet connected smart outhouse
We could look for a way to IoTify one of these:
It could then really lay claim to the name Internet of Shit.
The next step has been succesfully performed:
"Rochester Institute of Technology puts health monitoring sensors into a toilet seat"
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
WTF is a secure net in this context? The thing made of string and attached to the hoop? That was my first thought, but what does it mean to be secure?
That it doesn’t detach from the hoop maybe?
And how does it keep track of your shots vs. the other guy's?
Smart balls, of course. More seriously: if you’re putting a transponder (or whatever “smart” thing it is, exactly) into a basketball anyway, I would expect that to have some kind of unique identifier that the “secure net” can read as the ball passes through. So all you do is bring your own smart ball …
Hang on, I just realised you meant: And how does it keep track of your shots vs. the other guy’s if you’re both using the same ball? Does this smart ball have fingerprint recognition maybe?
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
Smart balls
So the basketball connects to your testicle implant to find out who's playing it?
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@TimeBandit That's the thing about services. Even if I'm willing to pay $300 for a smart ball or whatever, if I don't trust other people to also do that, I'm not going to buy into it because I know it will go out of business and my money will be wasted.
A solution would be for the company to publicly commit to keeping the servers running for at least 10 years, and put aside the money for that into a fund (or give it to a trusted company or however you do that).
But apparently no one has ever thought of that but me. Because I've never seen anyone do anything similar.
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@anonymous234 said in Internet of shit:
A solution would be for the company to publicly commit to keeping the servers running for at least 10 years, and put aside the money for that into a fund
A better solution would be to have the API public and a way to make your smart thing use whatever server you want.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
any court with a secure net
WTF is a secure net in this context? The thing made of string and attached to the hoop? That was my first thought, but what does it mean to be secure? Or network? And how does it keep track of your shots vs. the other guy's?
Whenever you make a shot you say "Hey Wilson, I just made that shot" and it recognizes your voice. It's foolproof and totally reliable.
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@dkf said in Internet of shit:
@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
Naw, you also need some strong "incentive" for the C-Level executives to have some of their own skin in the game.
Jail for any “responsible executive” (CEO, COO, CFO, …) who has sufficient strikes against them in this area? And coupled to that, a mandatory banning for life from being an executive or otherwise on a corporate board?
I once read a book where any elected government official was put into jail immediately. Reasoning: Saves time down the line.
Might be a worthwhile approach to corporations as well :)
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
@anonymous234 said in Internet of shit:
A solution would be for the company to publicly commit to keeping the servers running for at least 10 years, and put aside the money for that into a fund
A better solution would be to have the API public and a way to make your smart thing use whatever server you want.
my temperature sensor does exactly this; you can point it at any MQTT server and it will happily publish the temperatures there instead of the default.
Well, it will once I finish it...
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@ixvedeusi said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
Smart balls
So the basketball connects to your testicle implant to find out who's playing it?
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@HardwareGeek
/r/nutshots is
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
WTF is a secure net in this context?
A secure net is a foul. There's no goaltending in Basketball!
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
I once read a book where any elected government official was put into jail immediately. Reasoning: Saves time down the line.
Alternatively:
"All government officials," Melith explained, "wear the badge of office, which contains a traditional amount of tessium, an explosive you may have heard of. The charge is radio-controlled from the Citizens Booth. Any citizen has access to the Booth, for the purpose of expressing his disapproval of the government." Melith sighed. "This will go down as a permanent black mark against poor Borg's record."
"You let the people express their disapproval by blowing up officials?" Goodman croaked, appalled.
"It's the only way that means anything," said Melith "Check and balance. Just as the people are in our hands, so we are in the people's hands.".
-- R. Sheckley, "A Ticket to Tranai"
They were also keeping women in stasis fields when not needed... well...
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
I once read a book where any elected government official was put into jail immediately. Reasoning: Saves time down the line.
Terry Pratchet, The Last Continent. Though knowing him he stole it.
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
Only 3 years?
A Wilson volleyball would've lasted at least 4...
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@PleegWat There was another idea by Eddings where all the belongings of an elected leader of state were liquidated immediately after election and these funds then put into the general budget.
After his or her term, whether or not he got something back was determined by how well the economy was doing four years after his or her term. The one thing the leader was not allowed to change: How the state of the economy was calculated.
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The next chapter of the Nike saga in which exactly nobody gets a surprise:
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@LaoC And the chapter thereafter: "I was adjusting the fit, lost the connection, and the shoe laces wouldn't stop tightening. "
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC And the chapter thereafter: "I was adjusting the fit, lost the connection, and the shoe laces wouldn't stop tightening. "
… and the firmware just so happened to trigger that HCF instruction!
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You know, no matter how bad the IOS gets, we can rest easy in the knowledge that our password management software allows us to create secure passwords and store them in a much better way than a notebook under our keyboard...
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It is unknown how widespread this knowledge is amongst adversaries.
I'd say it's probably quite a bit more widespread than it was two days ago.