Filling Station: Please Discharge all Static Before Entering
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You don't have to, but your post made it seem as if you were trying to have one.
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i' m not sure what you mean.....
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yeeeeeah.... that's it....
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Look, you're going back to Flamewars 101. You make an argument, you defend it to
the deaththe point where everybody gets bored and starts another flamewar.
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if you're facing 25 to life if they tie the kill to you
Key point here. Murder is already so illegal that the people who do it are mainly people who are not deterred by laws.
Most societies are broken into two groups... those mostly living in public within the law, and those living in hiding (at least from the first group) and ignoring the law. The more laws we have and the stupider they get, the more people we push into group 2. Group 2 is very hard to control; that's why more laws are rarely the right answer to anything.
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the point where everybody gets bored and starts another flamewar.
i thought that was what i was doing?
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i thought that was what i was doing?
Well, it doesn't seem so. We're still, you might say... up in arms.
Filed under: *sunglasses*, YEEEEEEEEEAH
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did i claim it was a deterrent?
no. i did not. i said that access to a gun facilitates that goal. this does not imply that lack of access to the gun deters the goal.
that's basic logic.
So then how is your argument supposed to be a successful argument against guns? If limited access to guns does not deter person A from killing person B, then what is the point of your argument?
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Shorter NRA: Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people!
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Look, you're going back to Flamewars 101. You make an argument, you defend it to
the deaththe point where everybody gets bored and starts another flamewar.Isn't that the same thing? One flamewar dies, the next rises from its ashes.
Filed Under: Fuck off Discotoaster
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So then how is your argument supposed to be a successful argument against guns?
why would you think it was?
it was an argument against the absolute statement "Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People"
people do indeed kill people, i merely argue that the gun facilitates this.
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There's also a third group - those who openly flout the law but don't go to jail. See: bankers and politicians.
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@abarker said:
So then how is your argument supposed to be a successful argument against guns?
why would you think it was?
it was an argument against the absolute statement "Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People"
people do indeed kill people, i merely argue that the gun facilitates this.
The argument "Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People" is used to counter anti-gun arguments along the lines of "OMG! There's a massacre! Ban gunz! Gunz R killing all the ppl!" It's a simplified statement, meant to be short and easy to convey.
Are short and simple ideas ever complete? No. Are there some supporters who don't understand the full extent of the argument? Yes. Does it really matter? No.
To answer your question: Trying to counter a simple version of an argument just because it's not complete gives the impression that you oppose the side that uses that argument.
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To answer your question: Trying to counter a simple version of an argument just because it's not complete gives the impression that you oppose the side that uses that argument.
My job here is done.
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But it is not a valid source.
it's entertain
ingmentExactly.
At least in Germany, there's a tiny lever on the backside of the bow protecting the lever from being accidentally pulled.
You know, the valve that fills air in my tires, doesn't seem to have as many problems.
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@flabdablet said:
Shorter NRA: Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people!
Let me clarify my post:
@flabdablet: I'm sure you were trying to be funny, but you just came across, to me, as ignorant. The NRA's primary purpose is to protect gun rights, and to support the legal use of firearms, with heavy emphasis on hunting and training. Only a small portion of their publications even touches on the subject of self defence. Even then, they often discuss steps you can take to avoid needing to fire your weapon in self defense. Saying that the NRA supports killing people is a very biased and uneducated claim.
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i merely argue that the gun facilitates this
So does a car.
Are we going to create laws based on their statistical use? Because that's the major problem with the war on drugs. Picking out sentences for drugs based on who uses what, as a form of discrimination.
This is just another form of discrimination.
For all the shootings, there is no consistent political leaning for the shooters, and yet most of the political arguments have been used to accost conservatives.
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If it saves even one life! Has it ever taken a life? Probably as many people have died from drinking from the nozzle. We need mouth detection on pumps NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnZ2XdqGZWU
Gas fight!!!
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@abarker said:
Should we really design everything to design against bad choices?
When the consequences of a bad choice could extend as far as death or serious injury: yes.
That's really ironic.
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people do indeed kill people, i merely argue that the gun facilitates this.
The short and simple phrase is meant to be a condensing of the fact that a gun does nothing without an operator. I could load one of my pistols, chamber a round, decock it and sit it on the table and it would do nothing. It will never kill a person. It just sits there, because it is a hunk of machined steel.
Guns don't kill people.
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Bear "Better Drink My Own Piss" Grylls
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Bear Grylls, had (has?) a show on the Discovery channel where he claimed to spend a few days in the wilderness surviving on his own, with the camera crew only there to film and not allowed to help him. It was revealed that, despite the disclaimer at the beginning of his show, he would frequently do things like spend nights in hotels while filming, have a crew build a survival raft for him (it was disassembled so he could "build" it on camera), and so on. In short, his show was a sham, contrary to what he specifically stated in public and on his show.
The firestarter you posted an image of is branded using his name.
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who is he?
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huh.
TIL.
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You can't recognize him from his eyebrows?
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You can't recognize him from his eyebrows?
i still have no idea who he is.
so...... nope.
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Looks like you got triggered.
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You know, we forgot the most dangerous thing about American filling stations:
What happens if you confuse the fuel nozzle with your gun?
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Just fit a latch to the trigger... problem solved!
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Just fit a latch to the trigger... problem solved!
On a totally unrelated note, a machine gun crosses my mind...
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Oh, it's a fire starter
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Yep. That it is
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@abarker said:
Should we really design everything to design against bad choices?
When the consequences of a bad choice could extend as far as death or serious injury: yes.
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
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I want to live in a world where anyone is capable of pumping gas.
Unless they're, like, from New Jersey, or something.
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My job here is done.
Getting @abarker involved in a flame war is easy mode. I bet I can do it with three words:
Hats are stupid
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Unless they're, like, from New Jersey, or something.
First time I got fuel in NJ I started to get out of the car and you would have thought I was a terrorist with the way they acted. I thought they were going to bum rush me.
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Hats are stupid
NO HAT FOR YOU!
/me waits for @abarker to edit this post and insert the appropriate image
as it was written -abarker
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Hats are stupid
Counterexample:
http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/barefootandpregnant/files/2013/12/fezzes-are-cool.gif
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as it was written -abarker
much appreciated oh glorious hatter of mine head.... oh i lack a hat at the moment.....
please wait.
/me begins playing telephone hold muzak
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In my part of 'merica, the big boys seem to (almost) exclusively pull into completely separate gas stations...
So, I get a on this like a week later...
Which reminds me, that the day I posted this I found myself nose-to-nose with this guy:
I exaggerate....more like this:
...and yesterday I was practically bum-rushed out of the station by a little old lady driving a school bus who had to get in that lane.
Turns out the spot I usually pull into has the only diesel pump. TIL.
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@abarker said:
@flabdablet said:
Shorter NRA: Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people! Kill people!
Let me clarify my post:
@flabdablet: I'm sure you were trying to be funny, but you just came across, to me, as ignorant. The NRA's primary purpose is to protect gun rights, and to support the legal use of firearms, with heavy emphasis on hunting and training. Only a small portion of their publications even touches on the subject of self defence. Even then, they often discuss steps you can take to avoid needing to fire your weapon in self defense. Saying that the NRA supports killing people is a very biased and uneducated claim.
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At least we both agree that your politics are a joke.
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One of the best 16:37 of my life. I need to get some more of this guy
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