Vote of No Confidence
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*turns on speech-to-text*
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If @RaceProUK hadn't written that, I would have.
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Clearly Discoruse needs more rate-limiting.
We could limit reading posts! 2 Posts per day ought to be enough for anybodyCitation needed.
Filed Under: Bad ideas topic somewhere
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We could limit reading posts! 2 Posts per day ought to be enough for anybody
2 posts a day for reading, but 4 posts a day for posting.
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2 posts a day for reading, but 4 posts a day for posting.
"Please allow others to join the conversation."
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I don't know about root, but @PJH definitely has shell access.
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Last I heard, PJH doesn't have root on the server.
I do. Well I was given it, I ameliorated it somewhat by creating a non root account with sudo privs.
Now that you mention in, I'm pretty sure I remember him saying that not only does he not have it, he doesn't want that responsibility.
That was the case, no longer though. There was a problem on the server and as I recall Sam was on holiday or something.
I don't know about root, but @PJH definitely has shell access.
Given the unique nature of how docker is used when installing Discourse using the default instructions, shell access without root is rather useless.
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the unique nature of how docker is used when installing Discourse
"Unique" describes many things about Discourse.
Filed under: "Well, that's different."
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Still not confident.
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Still not confident.
For some reason your avatar just reminded me of this scene from Avatar: TLA:
You wouldn't happen to know the Melon Lord, would you?
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Can we please get off this software now?
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Can we please get off this software now?
My previous stance has been "meh". After the latest shenanigans, I'm inclined to change that to "ehm".
Pros: ¬Discourse
Cons: Abandon all the fancy hacks people have discovered here.Also, is there a way to export the posts so that they can be migrated into another forum?
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Being on a supported piece of software is not helping if our admins are banned from the official way of getting support.
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After the latest shenanigans
Wait, got a link? It's just that I have trouble with discerning between shenanigans...
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Also, is there a way to export the posts so that they can be migrated into another forum?
We can get the data from the DB. Migrating is surely somehow possible. I doubt there are existing discourse to whatever tools available yet. I guess someone's gotta be frist.
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Wait, got a link? It's just that I have trouble with discerning between shenanigans...
A lot of TDWTF users got banned over on the official dicksauce forum.
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/how-can-this-be-so-wrong/51117/14
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Well that's worth a vote of exactly zero fucking confidence. Because why should we have any confidence in forum software apparently managed by crazy people?
I don't care about Jeff and Alex being best buddies or whatever. We've been shown a middle finger, and I don't see why we should continue to work as a Discourse advertisement so that the guy who has shown us nothing but disdain can pay his fucking bills.
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We can get the data from the DB. Migrating is surely somehow possible. I doubt there are existing discourse to whatever tools available yet. I guess someone's gotta be frist.
Paging @ben_lubar.
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Being on a supported piece of software is not helping if our admins are banned from the official way of getting support.
Apparently I missed something while sleeping. Does this mean that I'm the only (active) staff member that currently has access to meta.d?
No, I'm not currently banned.
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No, I'm not currently banned.
I'm sure that will be rectified when they remember your account or when you next post over there.
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But they did ban cipher1 ...?
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LOL. So funny.
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We can get the data from the DB. Migrating is surely somehow possible. I doubt there are existing discourse to whatever tools available yet. I guess someone's gotta be frist.
The problem will be the same as the problem we had the first time: getting the attention of people who have permissions to the filesystem of both the old and new forum software.
Ben L had the code to do the migration, what he didn't have is the permission or the attention of anybody with the permission for longer than like half an hour at a time. (And every time we attempted it, bugs in Discourse prevented completion.)
That said, if we do switch now, we're faced with the problem of having to import-- since there's already a site archiving the CS posts, it'd be pretty ridiculous to have to pick which site you want based on knowing what year the post was made. We're kind of committed at this point, and any Discourse replacement needs to contain the content in Discourse itself.
(Which is kind of why I made this thread in the first place-- it's saying we should switch off Discourse before it became a sunk-cost, but. Too fucking late.)
To be perfectly, 100% honest: what really needs to happen is that the forum needs to be managed by someone other than Alex. Since he doesn't use it himself, nor does he seem inclined to invest any time or energy into it. (Even the work with Ben L was with an employee of Alex's who was granted permissions for it.)
On another note, Discourse has been successful at one thing: inspiring a lot of developers who take a look at Discourse and say, "fuck, I can do better than that!"
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Does this mean that I'm the only (active) staff member that currently has access to meta.d?
No - we've all got access; bz and I just can't log in...
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Now that's some cynic pedantry...
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Does this mean that I'm the only (active) staff member that currently has log in access to meta.d?
Better?
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Was there any reason given for the bans other than "sorry, you are no longer weclome here"?
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I think you can read the reason in @Sams ban message....
Filed Under: Nothnig official, though...
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Was there any reason given for the bans other than "sorry, you are no longer weclome here"?
None. At least not by Jeff.
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It started of as a bug report about swapped "Dismiss Posts" and "Dismiss Topics" between desktop and mobile, with a mobile on mobile and desktop on mobile screenshots with a caveat that regardless of the fact that the desktop shot was on a mobile, it's like that on a desktop.
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Jeff moved it from bugs to UX
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I asked why
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He said (paraphrased) "desktop on mobile is not supported - NOT_A_BUG" ignoring the fact that it was irrelevant
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@zogstrip pointed that out about 30 seconds before I also did that his argument was irrelevant
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Someone called Jeff on his attitude
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next thing I know the topic is hidden/deleted and I and most of the known members of TDWTF had been banned for 365 days
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And then Sam self-bans again and tells us to bugger off.
But I think bz succinctly got the real reason:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/how-can-this-be-so-wrong/51117/66?u=pjh
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I really want to hope that there was something else that justified the bans in his mind and that topic just popped up at the wrong time...
Filed Under: WANT to hope!
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Don't underestimate the actions of highly emotional people who don't think there will be consequences for their actions.
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Ok, so the discodevs don't want us using Discourse. But what can we use instead? I don't want to migrate to something that's alpha quality, and I also don't want to move to something that hasn't been supported for years.
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WANT TO HOPE
Filed Under: I know you guys are probably right about this but still
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discodevs don't want us using Discourse
That is probably the best reason to use Discourse.
Filed under: it's still not a good reason though.
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I'm sure someone posted some other forum software a few months back which looked more mature than Flarum and to a degree Dicksores while still being modern and actually supported.
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But what can we use instead?
Question by Alex:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/so-new-forums-software/51137One suggestion (but this is beta software):
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/flarum-discoclone/51136
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So in short, "oh no! All those bug reports from those pesky TDWTF members! How dare they imply my software isn't perfect! I'll show them!"
Fuck that guy.
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The Jeff seems a little unbalanced.
Sticking with Discourse means you might soon have to check every update for things like
if (domainName == "thedailywtf.com") { ActivateReallyShittyVersion(); }
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>if (domainName == "thedailywtf.com")
{
// FIXED_NOT_NEEDED
// ActivateReallyShittyVersion();
}FTFY
Filed Under: As if they need a special code for that
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if (domainName == "thedailywtf.com")
{
ActivateReallyShittyVersion();
}So if the domain is thedailywtf, we get a version that's a massive improvement over the version we are currently running? I don't get it.
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The Jeff seems a little unbalanced.
Sticking with Discourse means you might soon have to check every update for things like
if (1==1) { ActivateReallyShittyVersion(); } ```</blockquote> ­
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So in short, "oh no! All those bug reports from those pesky TDWTF members!
I think he has to have been reading stuff here...hmm...maybe I need to grab a backup. Because we've been pretty tame lately over on fail.d, I think. Obviously, @sam has been participating in topics here a bit.
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I think he has to have been reading stuff here...hmm...maybe I need to grab a backup.
I managed to get a full one earlier today - it's still there to download.
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Pulling the DB down now...
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I think he has to have been reading stuff here
I concur, Jeff's "last seen" here was about the same time the blanket bans happened.
That may have made him mad, but he should have judged us on what we said over there. Banning someone on meta.d for something they said on a different forum is
not very fairquite Jeffical.