Mrguyorama defends Gibberish
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I didn't believe that, so I checked. It's there.
It is not for us, or any of our clients that use VLSC.
Maybe they are beta testing on Australia? You guys really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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The only hard part is that you have to copy part of the Linux partition (presumably the MBR) to a file on the FAT32 / NTFS partition in order to get BCD to boot from it.
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Your total package counts are rather less than what I'm seeing. Are your sure your org has actually acquired Win10 volume licenses?
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Are your sure your org has actually acquired Win10 volume licenses?
That is what Software Assurance is for.
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The announced release date for volume licensed Win10 was August 1, so you might want to yell at them.
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It is not for us, or any of our clients that use VLSC.
Maybe they are beta testing on Australia? You guys really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
I've got it on my VLSC in the US. No keys- just the ISOs. Dreamspark and MSDN has keys and ISOs.
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And you have to understand how to use bcdedit, a command-line tool with an usability similar to the average linux tool (i.e. hard).
Compare it to EasyBCD, where you can create and remove boot entries in 3 clicks without reading any manual.
So explain why Microsoft, a company selling billions of OSs for corporate use at hundreds of dollars each, couldn't make a simple graphical tool like that?
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The announced release date for volume licensed Win10 was August 1, so you might want to yell at them.
Maybe it just takes a while?
For Software Assurance customers, eligibility to receive new versions of products is the earlier of either:
the month Microsoft makes licenses for that product available for ordering (on the Price List), or
the month the product is available for download from the Volume Licensing Service Center (VLSC).
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So explain why Microsoft, a company selling billions of OSs for corporate use at hundreds of dollars each, couldn't make a simple graphical tool like that?
What's their incentive to?
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Agh! Blakeyrat rule 34? Oh, well, I suppose it was inevitable... and it has to be less horrible than Schol-R-LEA rule 34.
Filed under: does anyone here even know what Blakey looks like? Assuming he isn't a chatterbot, that is...
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Filed under: does anyone here even know what Blakey looks like?
I think someone back on the old forums had a bit of an... obsession with Blakey and sought out his personal data. Don't remember, don't care enough to look for it.
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Filed under: does anyone here even know what Blakey looks like?
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As such i bid you good day and will quit this discussion forthwith as you have put me in a position where i have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Liar. You posted again in an hour. :P
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Thanks, pedantic dickweed, but you know what I meant. She used a word that meant "for all time", regardless of what that exact word was, that's why the statement was a lie.
If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.
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Not you too?
I just went through this earlier!
Not cool.
Not funny.
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Not funny.
Let's check with the ref, shall we?
@frostcat says it was, in fact funny.
Sorry, @accalia. Nothing I can do. The ref's decisions are final.
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does anyone here even know what Blakey looks like?
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Well I hope none of those were shipments that my company was responsible for ...
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I'm never going to post in this thread again.
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[spoiler]I lied[/spoiler]
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I had a Windows 2000 box that had a Linux and BeOS
Ok, who hacked Blakey's account again?!?!
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Technically, just having a box is not the same thing as having used, configured, chosen or understood it.
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@ScholRLEA said:
Filed under: does anyone here even know what Blakey looks like?
That's not a rat, you lying liar who lies.
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/me looks for other nightmare inducing do not want meme pictures
Probably this is the scene I have in mind. Can't check though, for no Flash installed (Paranoia, Security holes, Blahblah).
Btw, I like the film Coraline. (Maybe I'll read the book one day, too.)
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Okay, so reverse google image search tells me that the animal base is from a zoo in Berlin (Germany)... but who is the face? Is that someone I should be able to recognize?
Filed Under: Also, what the hell did you search for to get this result?
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Google Image Search returned this as the first result:
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I think Blakey is doing a rather good job debunking Windows.
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I noticed that he never laughs unless he's smoking.
It must be laughing gas.
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Legalize
potlaughing gasI'm autonomous, and I'm capable of safely using it.
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I don't know, if you overdo laughing gas then apparently it's deadly.
Or so Tim Burton told me.
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Blakey is right here, since when is it Microsoft's job to support every single other operating system 5% of users could possibly want to install? Shouldn't they instead focus on making a bootloader that is rock solid for the average case? I know that's where I want my money to go. If I want to dual boot linux, I'm already committing myself to "hard" things, so I might as well take the extra ten minutes to figure out how to not nuke everything
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But is it really so hard to check if there's another bootloader in MBR before install, and give the user a choice to overwrite or keep it?
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I feel like the whole "fresh bootloader with every install!" thing was put in at least in some small part to guarantee to kill boot sector type malware no matter what. /opinion
What if they did try to do that? How do they make sure they don't screw up, or get screwed up by every other bootloader out there? It's a risk/reward thing. Even if every single person with a different bootloader didn't buy windows, if most likely would be barely a wrinkle in their bottom line, versus the testing and possibility for bugs the implementation would cause
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I feel like the whole "fresh bootloader with every install!" thing was put in at least in some small part to guarantee to kill boot sector type malware no matter what. /opinion
What if they did try to do that?
Making wiping out the default? Users who don't know what they're doing are much more likely to keep default settings - and if they wouldn't, they would be unable to boot their freshly installed system and be forced to reinstall it once again - not a big problem given they've just made fresh install anyway.How do they make sure they don't screw up, or get screwed up by every other bootloader out there?
The whole point is to be able to get screwed up by other bootloaders.It's a risk/reward thing. Even if every single person with a different bootloader didn't buy windows, if most likely would be barely a wrinkle in their bottom line, versus the testing and possibility for bugs the implementation would cause
First - you can't screw up something you don't do, and here we're talking about not touching the MBR at all if the bootloader isn't Windows bootloader (I'm sure they already have some markers to indicate it's Windows bootloader in place). Second, the only bug there might be - which is, writing something to MBR when it shouldn't in some cases - is not much worse than the solution they decided to go with, which is always writing something to MBR even if it shouldn't.
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The whole point is to be able to get screwed up by other bootloaders.
So your call center gets a random customer who is pissed that their $200 dollar windows installation wont boot? Because the random bootloader their "tech savy" friend put on their computer isn't configured correctly/they don't know how to use it?
"Windows sucks because reasons"
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So your call center gets a random customer who is pissed that their $200 dollar windows installation wont boot? Because the random bootloader their "tech savy" friend put on their computer isn't configured correctly/they don't know how to use it?
"Windows sucks because reasons"
You do realize the situation you described is equally as likely now as it would be if they made the option I proposed?
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No? Their tech savvy friend puts the misconfigured bootloader on their computer, tech-illiterate dude installs windows, windows overwrites bootloader, windows boots perfectly normal
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tech-illiterate dude installs windows
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But is it really so hard to check if there's another bootloader in MBR before install, and give the user a choice to overwrite or keep it?
Is it hard? No.
Considering 99% of their customers won't know what that error message means or what they're being asked... it's a bad idea to show it.
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If there is another bootloader in place, it's because someone put it there, and chances are that it's the same person who is doing the system maintenance now to install windows. Hence, most people faced with that warning will know exactly what it means, and what to do about it.
In other words: your logic is flawed.
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it's a bad idea to show it.
It could be simply put to the place where you choose to install Windows without using a Microsoft account. A user that changes that option accidentally will screw up any installation of any software anyway.
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If there is another bootloader in place, it's because someone put it there,
Thanks, Doctor Genius.
and chances are that it's the same person who is doing the system maintenance now to install windows.
Not true.
Or, rather, you'd need to convince me this is true via. evidence and not just ass-pulls.