Is it something in the water?
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I think this one speaks for itself:
British woman claims lawyers should have told her divorce would end her marriage
A British woman attempted to sue her former lawyers for professional negligence, claiming that, alongside a number of other allegations, they failed to advise that finalising divorce proceedings would inevitably cause her marriage to end.
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Had to recategorise to reply
Maybe someone should gift that woman a dictionary…
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Had to recategori
sze to replyHuh? I put it in the wrong category, but I caught it and jeffed to the correct category within a minute.
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Huh… musta done that just after I opened the thread…
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Not quite as straight-up a as the papers make it out to be, perhaps; genuine mental health issues are involved.
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Not quite as straight-up a as the papers make it out to be, perhaps; genuine mental health issues are involved.
According to the link you provided, she failed to provide evidence that she had not been advised of the consequences of pursuing divorce. In fact, it seems that her arguments indicated the opposite. That link did not indicate if there was any evidence that she had or had not been advised of the possibility of judicial separation. Still, based on this additional information, it appears that she was aware of the consequences of divorce proceedings, and sued her lawyers for not properly informing her of the consequences of divorce. Even without a diagnosis of Asperger's, I'd take this case as evidence that had some mental issues.
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Even without a diagnosis of Asperger's, I'd take this case as evidence that had some mental issues.
Would like to point out, as someone with Asperger's, that it's not something that negatively impacts a person's ability to think logically; if anything, it actually improves logical thinking ;)
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Would like to point out, as someone with Asperger's, that it's not something that negatively impacts a person's ability to think logically; if anything, it actually improves logical thinking
I thought those with Asperger's tended to focus well on a particular area, to the exclusion of other areas. I was thinking that this divorce issue could be in one of her blind spots.
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Not really; Asperger's has more of an effect on social interactions
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Not really; Asperger's has more of an effect on social interactions
Huh, now I wonder what it is I was thinking of ...
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Note: getting advice from your lawyer and interpreting it is a social interaction.
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Maybe for the 2020 vote, there should be a party who's main policy is to reduce idiocy in the UK, even if that means just shipping them off to another country. I'd vote for them.
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shipping them off to another country
Wouldn't work forever; 100 years later, they'd be back over here, running pubs and bars
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Wouldn't work forever; 100 years later, they'd be back over here, running pubs and bars
It won't be my problem in 100 years though
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Wouldn't work forever; 100 years later, they'd be back over here, running
pubs and barsthe Green party<arse
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Note: getting advice from your lawyer and interpreting it is a social interaction.
Yeah, but the thing is, Aspergers people, the problem's more like they don't read body language well, so they don't get sarcasm well, for example.
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reduce idiocy in the UK, even if that means just shipping them off to another country.
Just don't send them here. We've already done you a solid by taking Piers spit Morgan.
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@locallunatic said:
Note: getting advice from your lawyer and interpreting it is a social interaction.
Yeah, but the thing is, Aspergers people, the problem's more like they don't read body language well, so they don't get sarcasm well, for example.
That's definitely a part of it, yes ;)
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now I wonder what it is I was thinking of ...
The classic stereotype of the autistic savant?
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Maybe for the 2020 vote, there should be a party who's main policy is to reduce idiocy in the UK, even if that means just shipping them off to another country. I'd vote for them.
Ugh, please don't. You did it back in the 1600's and 1700's. It didn't turn out too well.
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Note: getting advice from your lawyer and interpreting it is a social interaction.
@FrostCat said:Yeah, but the thing is, Aspergers people, the problem's more like they don't read body language well, so they don't get sarcasm well, for example.
TRWTF is lawyers giving sarcastic advice.
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TRWTF is lawyers giving sarcastic advice.
Well, it's not just sarcasm. And I was speaking more in generalities.
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Yes, I was being sarcastic.
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Yes, I was being sarcastic.
I'm sure. But I meant that it's not just sarcasm Asperger's people have trouble with.
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Objection! You, like me, are autistic. There is no such thing as Asperger's Syndrome.
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It is true there's some debate about whether it's a separate condition or not, I'll grant you ;)
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You, like me, are autistic. There is no such thing as Asperger's Syndrome.
there's some debate about whether it's a separate condition or not
What about whether someone with an ASD that's not classical autism is autistic?
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According to the link you provided, she failed to provide evidence that she had not been advised of the consequences of pursuing divorce. In fact, it seems that her arguments indicated the opposite. That link did not indicate if there was any evidence that she had or had not been advised of the possibility of judicial separation. Still, based on this additional information, it appears that she was aware of the consequences of divorce proceedings, and sued her lawyers for not properly informing her of the consequences of divorce. Even without a diagnosis of Asperger's, I'd take this case as evidence that had some mental issues.
This just sounds like a good plan for paying your legal fees for the divorce, and maybe getting a bit more on top.
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This just sounds like a good plan for paying your legal fees for the divorce, and maybe getting a bit more on top.
Or getting yourself locked in the nut-house.
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Whether or not she knew what would happen is beside the point. You might be able to get away with saying that the lawyers didn't explain all the ramifications, and that it was their duty to do so, whether you already had the information or not. Presumably that would work, considering how much paperwork is normally involved in anything of the sort.
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The debates over, they got rid of it in the latest diagnostic manual. DSM V or whatever.
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But the additional link provided by @flabdablet indicated that not only did she fail to prove professional negligence on the part of her lawyers, but the thrust of her arguments was actually detrimental to her case. Sure the idea may work, but she was Doing It Wrong™.
In any case, I think that western society is too litigious. Suing because you didn't know divorce would end your marriage? As @RaceProUK pointed out:
Maybe someone should gift that woman a dictionary…
People should stop blaming everyone else for their own actions and start taking some responsibility. Are there some situations when lawsuits are appropriate? Yes. But stop suing over every little thing, dammit!
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Suing because you didn't know divorce would end your marriage? As @RaceProUK pointed out:
Maybe someone should gift that woman a dictionary…
I have to say I think I agree. That doesn't necessarily mean the lawyer didn't do anything wrong - if they didn't mention the option of a judicial separation and led her to believe that divorce was the only option, then maybe. Would all depend on circumstances, but I can see how a lawyer could potentially be negligent there.
But that's not what's being reported. Suing because she didn't know what divorce was? There's got to be some seriously special circumstances there for that to be reasonable.
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In any case, I think that western society is too litigious. Suing because you didn't know divorce would end your marriage?
Pretty dumb, but not as dumb as her previous lawsuit where she sued her boss because she didn't realize that quitting her job would end her employment.
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The debates over, they got rid of it in the latest diagnostic manual. DSM V or whatever.
Collapsed it into one Autism Spectrum Disorder entry, really...
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It's all a problem of the education system. They should teach basic causality at schools.
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It's all a problem of the education system. They should teach basic causality at schools.
It doesn't help. People who learned basic causality make conspiracy theories.
So in this case, the fact that divorce ended her marriage would be a conspiracy on the part of the state against women who divorce.
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Would like to point out, as someone with Asperger's, that it's not something that negatively impacts a person's ability to think logically; if anything, it actually improves logical thinking
I had a boss who asked me if I had Asperger's when I was having to work extra hard to squeeze 6 weeks of work into a 3rd of the time I had asked for. I didn't know what it was, and I don't know what he thought it was, but according to you he was basically asking me "Have you logically concluded that you cannot work hard enough to make up for my incompetence?"
I had not. I was young enough to be fooled into thinking I was the problem by people whose job it is to blame engineers for non-viable business practices, which was largely the game of the 3 stooges that ran that place.
On a completely unrelated note, is there a place where I can put a linkedin url and a story and not get banned?
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On a completely unrelated note, is there a place where I can put a linkedin url and a story and not get banned?
If you are sharing something sensitive, you probably want to put it in the Lounge.
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He's a TL2
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He's a TL2
Yeah, I was just checking on that.
@Shoreline said:
On a completely unrelated note, is there a place where I can put a linkedin url and a story and not get banned?
If you are sharing something sensitive, you probably want to put it in the Lounge.
However, you need to enter about 250 more topics and read about 24,000 more posts to be able to access the lounge.
If you are willing to anonymize the story, post it in this category. If it doesn't fit, some friendly soul will move it. You just might want to leave out the linkdIn profile. If the story involves the profile, maybe grab a screenshot instead.
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The debates over, they got rid of it in the latest diagnostic manual. DSM V or whatever
Although it still carries a lot of weight, the DSM isn't the official standard anywhere outside the US. In Europe, the ICD-10 carries more weight, and that still has Aspergers as a separate diagnosis
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Maybe for the 2020 vote, there should be a party who's main policy is to reduce idiocy in the UK, even if that means just shipping them off to another country. I'd vote for them.
@another_sam, @flabdablet, you guys want to weigh in on this?