WTF Bites



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    people update in the vain hope that it will fix the issues.

    :laugh-harder:


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    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    I really hate Microsoft and all of their updates. Which reminds me of how asinine all of blakey's rants were about how MS had to force updates because users weren't updating things frequently enough. Too bad Microsoft never tried not being a total gob of shit and not breaking everything when users update things.

    MS learned their lesson with Windows 7. When things keep working, users have no incentive to update.

    That's why in Windows 8 and above, they don't just make it difficult to disable updates. They also make sure there's always something that's broken, so people update in the vain hope that it will fix the issues.

    In theory our RMM should stop all updates unless we have approved them. But somehow the offers to update to Win11 got through that blockade which necessitated a registry value locking the version to a max of 21H2.


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    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    I really hate Microsoft and all of their updates. Which reminds me of how asinine all of blakey's rants were about how MS had to force updates because users weren't updating things frequently enough. Too bad Microsoft never tried not being a total gob of shit and not breaking everything when users update things.

    Reminds me:
    Two days ago we got an email from IT’s security officer that we should urgently install the latest OS update on MacBooks that aren’t administered by IT, since it fixes a security issue. On a side note, they mentioned that they want to keep email traffic like that low, but it is a good idea in general to install any software updates as soon as possible.

    Yeah, sure!

    Coincidentally, on the very same day I was on a call with IT support to fix some problems with our VMware client. After quite some frustration, what ended up being the solution was to downgrade to an older version from last summer. It’s like 10,000 updates, when all you need is a working system… 🎵

    Updates constantly break shit. I’m quite confident my WiFi issues from the status thread appeared due to a previous update. To be fair, Apple OS updates generally work well enough, so they’re not quite as bad as Facebook/Google/et al. and their move fast and break things plague they unleashed upon the world. Every stupid app on this phone updates like once a week. My fucking TV updates every second one. What does that do? No idea, but at least so far it’s not broken anything. Yet.

    If only people would get back to releasing security fixes separately from feature updates, on a much slower schedule.


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    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    If only people would get back to releasing security fixes separately from feature updates, on a much slower schedule.

    The recent Windows update that broke VPNs was a security update rolled up with a servicing stack update. :trwtf:



  • @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    Meetings are where work goes to die.

    Truth.

    It's even worse the way my Tuesdays look ATM, where there's meetings nicely spaced ever hour/1.5 hours. That's not enough to actually get something else done (and consequently I end up shifting all other irregular meetings to Tuesday since it's a lost day anyway). Makes those days suck really bad.


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    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Makes those days suck really bad.

    Vodka doesn't leave the smell of booze on your breath unless you get really sauced.

    Jus'sayin'.


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    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Apparently I cannot change settings, e.g. email notifications on or off, without also changing my password.

    Ohhhhh, someone remind me tomorrow of a major banking :wtf: regarding my bank. It's glorious.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Carnage said in WTF Bites:

    everting is the direct reverse

    It does tend to be, yes.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    Makes those days suck really bad.

    Vodka doesn't leave the smell of booze on your breath unless you get really sauced.

    Jus'sayin'.

    The ever-popular No Smell No Tell property, yes. Just don't go with a flavor that is only ever commonly combined with vodka - even bottom-shelf plain shit has fairly few adjuncts that make it into the breath.

    In fact... yes, shit, I haven't any.



  • @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    major banking :wtf: ... It's glorious.

    Is there any other kind?


  • Banned

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    the wach list

    :frystare: Not sure if typo or German.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @dkf said in WTF Bites:

    handling the transition out of low-power mode incorrectly, but taking its time to do so.

    Fondling the EFI configuration to the max, I did the unthinkable and enabled "Allow wake from USB input".

    That... works? 😖 :wtf_owl: 🎼

    Who knew the buttplug dongle could send wake-up events?!


  • Java Dev

    @Polygeekery I disable hibernation completely. A positive side effect is that it also disables fast boot and removes hiberfil.sys. For a modern desktop hibernation is kinda pointless anyway.

    powercfg -h off

    Elevated cmd needed.


  • BINNED

    @Polygeekery
    I just started my work day by opening up TDWTF so it's as close as it gets to 'It's a new day' ...

    So what about that banking thing?



  • @Luhmann said in WTF Bites:

    started my work day by opening up TDWTF

    👍


  • BINNED

    @Polygeekery
    I already wasted half my day in meetings and the rest on here and still no update?

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  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @Luhmann said in WTF Bites:

    started my work day by opening up TDWTF

    👍

    One should not be encouraging such horrifical heresy. You might get excommunicated from the Church of :kneeling_warthog:


  • Considered Harmful

    @izzion said in WTF Bites:

    You might get excommunicated from the Church of

    Indeed, a full convocation would be assembled with all ritual and ceremony appertaining, and the various sanctions, anathematization through xenologia, would be individually detailed and applied, with the Sergeant-at-Arms f this f8nsh later



  • @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    a full convocation would be assembled with all ritual and ceremony appertaining

    Doesn't sound very :kneeling_warthog:, so ... maybe later?


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    @Atazhaia said in WTF Bites:

    I disable hibernation completely. A positive side effect is that it also disables fast boot and removes hiberfil.sys. For a modern desktop hibernation is kinda pointless anyway.

    Hibernation has always been disabled as part of Group Policy but you cannot disable HiberBoot via default GP. You can do it as a custom registry entry pushed out via GP, but that did not work reliably to disable HiberBoot. We always ended up falling back to the script so after a couple of iterations I just decided to schedule the script to run weekly. Often enough that it prevents all of the problems that their solution in search of a problem ends up causing, but not to often as to cause other issues.

    On the other end of things there is no reasonable way to set Adobe as the default PDF viewer and make it stick so we have another script that runs for a client every fifteen minutes that resets Adobe Reader as the default PDF viewer.

    Now, I know that lots of you are out there thinking of ways to do this via GP and DISM commands that run on login and blah blah blah blah.

    They don't work reliably enough.

    I know there is probably another camp thinking that this is all retarded and that Chrome or whatever will display PDFs reliably enough that there is no reason to get wound around the axle about it.

    Yeah, they should but they don't. Not reliably enough for this particular client using this particular LOB app, when printing certain things. At least not to label printers. And yeah, label printers are their own fetid sack of :wtf:ery in and of themselves.

    And yet another camp of people are about to tell me that if the default file associations are changing then the users are doing that and you need to educate the users because programs cannot change file associations without user consent anymore. To you I would point out that we are using a program to change the file associations and that programs absolutely can and do change default file associations without user intervention. The whole concept of UserChoice\Hash is retarded and at this point completely broken and retarded and Microsoft should feel ashamed for ever implementing such a sack of monkey shit to begin with.

    The biggest offender on this appears to be Chrome. As best I can figure out sometimes Chrome will set itself as the default PDF viewer when you upload a PDF file via Chrome.

    We tried all of the usual methods recommended to "solve" this and all of them had one major issue, they only run at login. Particularly the method that MS themselves recommend to do it via DISM:

    It works, until it doesn't, and asking users to log out and log back in every time something fails to print properly is a PITA for them.

    Now someone else might point out how you can set Chrome settings via GP or Chrome Enterprise enrollment.

    Yeah, you can do that also. You can set Chrome to only download PDFs and lock that option. But then Chrome, or whatever was doing it, will set the Windows file association to Chrome and the file will just download over and over and over again and never open, because raisins.

    So that is how we ended up with a script that runs every 15 minutes and since we did that, and solved another teething issue when that was deployed, we have not had a single call about the issue since.

    What teething issue you might ask?

    Adobe Reader has two ProgIDs for Adobe Reader depending raisins. In theory all of the free Reader installs should use a ProgID of AcroExch.Document.DC and paid for versions should use Acrobat.Document.DC but that was not the case. For this client out of 115 workstations 14 of them used the alternative ProgID. NFC why, they should have all had the same installer. :mlp_shrug:

    Which of course when I found the alternative ProgID I immediately thought I had made a mistake and used the wrong one, changed it, and broke the other 100+ in order to fix the 14. :facepalm: Luckily it was a quick and easy fix.

    And lastly, someone might mention the registry key that should prevent the changing of default PDF FTA. I say that it should work because you can still change the FTA via Windows Explorer and I think that either a bug or some asshole code in Chrome is exploiting this to set itself as the default PDF application.

    And that is how simple problems like:

    😷 "Hey, my prescription labels aren't printing properly."

    Can turn into a goddamn fiasco, because everything in technology is total shit.


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    @Luhmann said in WTF Bites:

    @Polygeekery
    I just started my work day by opening up TDWTF so it's as close as it gets to 'It's a new day' ...

    So what about that banking thing?

    I just wasted all the time I had to do so on ranting about Windows file type associations. Give me a while. I have a meeting here in a bit.


  • BINNED

    @Polygeekery
    I wouldn't let that kind of thing stop me


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    Hibernation has always been disabled as part of Group Policy but you cannot disable HiberBoot via default GP.

    When I disabled hibernation, Windows forgot fastboot even existed. It removed the option to enable/disable it, and it's never even attempted to do a fastboot since.


  • Considered Harmful

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    a full convocation would be assembled with all ritual and ceremony appertaining

    Doesn't sound very :kneeling_warthog:, so ... maybe later?

    :thats_the_joke: . What are you guys, programmers or something?



  • @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    What are you guys, programmers or something?

    Um, yes? Are you not, as they say, one of us, one of us?



  • @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    What are you guys, programmers or something?

    I prefer the term "artisan code craftsperson", TYVM. 🐠


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    What are you guys, programmers or something?

    I prefer the term "artisan code craftsperson", TYVM. 🐠

    And just like most artisan products, your code has a distinct aroma? :tro-pop:


  • Considered Harmful

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    What are you guys, programmers or something?

    Um, yes? Are you not, as they say, one of us, one of us?

    I am that which has resulted from the excess of same.



  • @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    On the other end of things there is no reasonable way to set Adobe as the default PDF viewer and make it stick so we have another script that runs for a client every fifteen minutes that resets Adobe Reader as the default PDF viewer

    Yikes! What keeps stealing it back so aggressively? (After install Acrobat (both Reader and full), I've never had to reset that.)

    I know there is probably another camp thinking that this is all retarded and that Chrome or whatever will display PDFs reliably enough that there is no reason to get wound around the axle about it.

    Can confirm that that is 🐄💩 . At least FF cannot do the fill-in PDFs (last time I checked) properly.


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    @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    Can confirm that that is 🐄💩 . At least FF cannot do the fill-in PDFs (last time I checked) properly.

    Something that Chrome does causes print formatting to be all fucky for some labels. Label printers do not handle that well. Like if you're printing something to a label printer that has a continuous roll of 50mm labels in it. If it gets sent and the job is not precisely 50mm the label printers they use will just shit themselves and error out, go offline and refuse to print that job or any others until someone goes to the machine and hits a button to acknowledge the error.

    Those same label printers will print a small fragment of the Windows test print just fine. :mlp_shrug:


  • Java Dev

    PDFs seems to trigger all sorts of ”I will open this file!” behaviour. For me, it tends to be Windows ”helpfully” suggesting me to use Edge every other time I open a PDF. I have fucking Adode Acrobat DC you moron! I am PAYING for the official program for creating PDFs! Why would I want to open the files with anything else?



  • @Atazhaia said in WTF Bites:

    I have fucking Adode Acrobat DC you moron! I am PAYING for the official program for creating PDFs!

    It doesn't matter that you're generating revenue. You're not generating revenue for Microsoft. From their point of view, that's unacceptable.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Atazhaia cos it's got a URI


  • Java Dev

    @Atazhaia said in WTF Bites:

    Why would I want to open the files with anything else?

    Dunno, maybe you'd like to wait less than 5 minutes before the PDF is on your screen?

    No experience with acrobat but I have a gut feeling.



  • @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    No experience with acrobat but I have a gut feeling.

    It actually opens pretty quickly. Of course, this is a pretty beefy machine...



  • Shipping distortion field WTF

    Amazon says:
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    Delivery company says:
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    It's now 5:00 PM, so if they want to get it delivered today they better find that parcel and get it out ASAP


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    Funny, my hatred for Acrobat goes all the way back to the Windows 95 days, when it did take 3+ minutes to open a simple file on my computer. (Back then I thought “why the fuck does anybody use PDFs at all?! :angry:” I no longer think that, but the dislike of Adobe has prevailed.)
    Nowadays it’s just “could you stop shoving 28 different retarded pop-ups, toolbars, and other ‘helpful’ crap in my face? Just let me read the damn thing!” And in its quest to be user friendly it’s so completely unusable. In the rare occasions I need to fill out a form or add a signature, god damn, which of these retarded options actually does that and why is it so convoluted?!


  • Considered Harmful

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    fill out a form or add a signature, god damn, which of these retarded options actually does that

    Those sound like some of the many services offered by Adobe's vibrant partner ecosystem.


  • BINNED

    @Gribnit said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    fill out a form or add a signature, god damn, which of these retarded options actually does that

    Those sound like some of the many services offered by Adobe's vibrant partner ecosystem.

    You kid (or not, who really can tell about you), but that’s one of these dumb options. You click one of the buttons that’s looks like sign, and it gives you some dumb shit where you have to upload stuff to Adobe so it can do god knows what.
    Probably sign it into the blockchain and create an NFT out of it.


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    @topspin huh... That's not a bad evil idea. Monetized annoyance impressions. Somehow I feel like the market wants this.



  • @hungrier Update

    Amazon says:
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    Somehow I doubt it. I wish companies would stop saying they "shipped the package" or that it's "on the way" and "arriving" when in fact they "haven't sent jack shit"


  • Fake News

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    Give me a while.

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  • @hungrier Next day update

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    Meanwhile, the delivery company still only has "Information Received"


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    @hungrier Next day update

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    Meanwhile, the delivery company still only has "Information Received"

    Ordered some drill bits and glue and stuff yesterday at 11am, from two stores.
    Got delivery at 9am today.

    22 hours. Not the best, but acceptable :mlp_smug:



  • @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    @hungrier Next day update

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    Meanwhile, the delivery company still only has "Information Received"

    Are you sure you kept at least 6 feet away from @HardwareGeek at all times?


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare surface or center of mass? 🚎


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    Status: When your keyboard starts trying to autocorrect fucking numbers.

    Bitch, please...


  • Considered Harmful

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    @hungrier Next day update

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    Meanwhile, the delivery company still only has "Information Received"

    Are you sure you kept at least 6 feet away from @HardwareGeek at all times?

    We have no idea how the DDF propagates or how it attenuates, but 6 feet isn't nearly far enough.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Bitch, please...

    🐶: Woof?


  • Considered Harmful

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    Ordered some drill bits and glue and stuff yesterday at 11am, from two stores.

    Learning how to do sideshow tricks, huh? Safer to start with nails, but at least you bought the glue.


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