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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Internet of shit:
This reminds me that Netflix (or even better, Amazon) should make a new, updated 1984 movie.
I think Brazil would be an even better choice: it's also about a dystopia, but unlike 1984's one, it's implemented incompetently (just like IoT stuff).
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@Gurth So far, the apps have kept working even when switching regions. I think I've even been able to update them (and since they're associated with my Google account, I can maybe even install them on different devices).
The annoyance-factor really kicks in when somebody is deprecating App A and asking users to move to App B. Even if App B is genuinely better in all ways, that won't help much if I can't install it.
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There’s a new Scream movie, again, and they didn’t even bother to change the name to anything but “Scream”. More importantly, it’s got Internet of door locks.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
More importantly, it’s got Internet of door locks.
So they don't unlock for protagonists because some server cluster on the other side of the country has had an incident with a suicidal squirrel.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
More importantly, it’s got Internet of door locks.
Ack, the horror!
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
There’s a new Scream movie, again, and they didn’t even bother to change the name to anything but “Scream”. More importantly, it’s got Internet of door locks.
If it's what it looks like - a pointless reiteration of mediocre slasher movie, I'm all for it.
There's also a reboot of Hellraiser coming in 2022. But they made Pinhead female and it's Hulu stream only. So fuck that.
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@MrL said in Internet of shit:
But they made Pinhead female
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
@MrL said in Internet of shit:
But they made Pinhead female
Well, Pinhead is pretty well described in the book and it's very clear that he is not female. There is a female Cenobite in the book and she acts... quite differently than him.
He is also an iconic character from the movies, very not female. Similarly, in the movies there are female cenobites, who are awesome, but nothing like him.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Internet of shit:
This reminds me that Netflix (or even better, Amazon) should make a new, updated 1984 movie.
Password must meet complexity requirements.
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@dcon what is that fireplace? It turns off instantly like it's gas powered, but the flame is too red for it to be gas powered. I thought it may be a fake one but final scene contradicts that too. WTF is it then?
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@Gąska said in Internet of shit:
the flame is too red for it to be gas powered.
You can get a yellow flame with gas:
https://youtu.be/N7ssCM3qM3U?t=128
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@Zerosquare i.e. oxygen-poor. The yellow-red colour comes from the incompletely burned molecules - such a flame will leave soot on everything it touches.
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@Gąska said in Internet of shit:
@dcon what is that fireplace? It turns off instantly like it's gas powered, but the flame is too red for it to be gas powered. I thought it may be a fake one but final scene contradicts that too. WTF is it then?
I've seen one of those in a hotel lobby. It wasn't turned on though.
It not being On The Floor but instead hanging from the ceiling by its chimney is an interesting design.
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@JBert Is the ^HA the initials of the support agent, or part of the message?
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@Atazhaia Yes.
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@Atazhaia Could be.
Check for yourself: https://twitter.com/SamsungUK/with_replies
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@Atazhaia said in Internet of shit:
@JBert Is the ^HA the initials of the support agent, or part of the message?
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@LaoC eh, if you’re an idiot who’s not carrying the keys then you shouldn’t be surprised the car stops working when the app has an outage.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC eh, if you’re an idiot who’s not carrying the keys then you shouldn’t be surprised the car stops working when the app has an outage.
Apparently some people need to learn the hard way that this stuff isn't powered by fairy dust or Elon's cock.
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@Polygeekery No, that is the wrong question. The correct question is: why the fuck does a grill need software updates in the first place?
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@cvi well, I can sort of see why it could need them.
It used to be that your smoker or grill was outside and you went outside to check on it.
Then wireless thermometers came along and you had to be within RF range of a transmitter that was powered by AA batteries.
Now you can check your temps and maybe even adjust the grill from wherever you are and that comes with the need for security updates, because everything that the modern world is using is fucking garbage.
What they should do instead of sending all this information up to the cloud and back to get a temperature display on someone’s phone or tablet or whatever is do what I always intended on doing, keep all of the data local. Make a simple app that shows you the temperature and a very simple self-discovery procedure. Read a thermocouple and display it on a simple webpage from a lightweight webserver that has minimal formatting or pretty stuff outside of the single field that updates your temperature.
Then you don’t have to worry about software updates, security, whatever. Who gives a shit if someone connects to an insecure site if that site only tells them what temperature you are cooking your food at? You’re also not exposing to the internet a device capable of destroying expensive foods or starting a fire in your backyard.
Getting it connected to your wifi is easy enough, that part is sorted. If it can’t connect to its known wireless network it turns on its chip in AP mode and serves up a simple page that scans the wireless and shows networks in range.
If the app starts and doesn’t detect your grill or whatever then it asks you if your grill is on and if it is on the same wireless network.
But no, we have to round trip all of the data to a datacenter somewhere so that your grill becomes feature crippled when they shut off the servers.
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@Polygeekery Propane tank. Valve. Tube with holes. Match. Good.
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@Polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
I like the name "WiFIRE". Saves coming up with a catchy name for the vulnerability when someone finds a way to blow it up with a shell script from the other side of the globe.
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@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
blow it up with a shell script from the other side of the globe.
Or from next door, when they’re tired of the smoke from your grill blowing into their house.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@Polygeekery Propane tank. Valve. Tube with holes. Match. Good.
This.
Well, I'd maybe replace the propane with wood or charcoal.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@Polygeekery Propane tank. Valve. Tube with holes. Match. Good.
Sure, if you want all the flavor of being cooked in an oven but with more inconvenience.
Traeger makes wood pellet grills. They basically invented the pellet grill. Up until they did the latest hardware revision (which added the wifi option) they made the worst pellet grills on the market. They were good quality construction but the controllers had no temperature feedback or PID. Their controllers were essentially nothing but a map of time intervals with a potentiometer adjustment that you could use to manually adjust them to ambient weather. Not very accurate. Then recently they added all the functionality and made it all wifi IoS-enabled.
So Traeger basically works like government. Two modes of operation: no reaction and overreaction.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
Propane tank. Valve. Tube with holes. Match.
Good.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@LaoC said in Internet of shit:
blow it up with a shell script from the other side of the globe.
Or from next door, when they’re tired of the smoke from your grill blowing into their house.
The aromatic smoke (and the smell of the meat cooking) that you get smoking meat on a pellet smoker is generally pretty pleasant.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear for orthodox vegans?
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@hungrier You use a grill indoors?
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@Polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
They were good quality construction but the controllers had no temperature feedback or PID.
That made it difficult to kill a hanging process.
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@Zecc it should be dead before you prep it for the grill/smoker. To do otherwise would be cruel and inhumane.
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@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
That made it difficult to kill a hanging process.
The hanging process should come after the killing when it comes to meats.
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From the reddit comments:
That's a smart speaker to block other smart speaker from beign a smart speaker and stop it from hearing you while it can hear you cause it's a smart speaker that's on all the time. Genius idea, let's solve a problem by introducing the same problem on top of it but weirder
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
Genius idea, let's solve a problem by introducing the same problem on top of it but weirder
One of us! One of us!
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
kickstarter
I'm not even that old, but I just don't understand kickstarter.
Surely, they can't build that stuff with $20,000, and just that website and their "prototypes" (whether real or rendered) have cost more than that.
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Ah, but that's because you assume that running a Kickstarter campaign requires actually creating a new product.
In reality, all you have to do is find some generic cheap gadget in China, ask the manufacturer to put your logo on it, pay a copywriter to write a completely bogus story ("we had a vision, and we worked 27h per day in our garage for 13 years to make it a reality!"), and sell it at a 500% markup to gullible fools.
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@topspin
Also, there's the pinning effect - you want to set a Kickstarter low enough that it's sure to fill and generate buzz. Preferably with vague hints regarding stretch goals and extra rewards for greatly exceeding the goal. And then when you overpromise on the stretch goals, you just ghost and people figure it was just another TypicalKickstarter(tm) anyway.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
kickstarter
I'm not even that old, but I just don't understand kickstarter.
Surely, they can't build that stuff with $20,000, and just that website and their "prototypes" (whether real or rendered) have cost more than that.
If you look at what you get, though, it's mostly stuff like, "10% off your order." So, no, this wasn't intended to get the products actually built.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
Why are they even making these anymore? A child born in the last few years is unlikely to recognize what this toy is supposed to be.
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@Gąska Which is why we should teach them while they're young!
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@Gąska said in Internet of shit:
Why are they even making these anymore? A child born in the last few years is unlikely to recognize what this toy is supposed to be.
From the description, I think the target market is not actual children, but adults acting like children.