WTF Bites
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@dkf I doubt the form would accept “What do you mean, African or European?” as a valid answer as it has such ridiculous things as punctuation in it.
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So it turns out that Ubisoft is unhappy at players not spending enough time in Far Cry 6.
As per Kotaku article - https://kotaku.com/ubisoft-pestering-far-cry-6-players-for-not-playing-eno-1847940889
That’s a WTF right there.
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@Arantor You will play it and you will enjoy it. Then you will buy the dlc and enjoy that.
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@DogsB I ain’t giving Ubisoft squat. I’ve never played the Far Cry series and I’m not starting now.
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I’ve never played the Far Cry series and I’m not starting now.
SURELY YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
SURELY YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS
Exactly. The fictional evil dictator/drug lord type of person is winning because you aren't exploding the whole region and indiscriminately killing everybody in it!
Haven't played Far Cry for a few iterations, but that seems to be the general theme of those games.
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF Bites:
SURELY YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS
Exactly. The fictional evil dictator/drug lord type of person is winning because you aren't exploding the whole region and indiscriminately killing everybody in it!
Haven't played Far Cry for a few iterations, but that seems to be the general theme of those games.
Mostly - it does discourage you from killing civilians but there's no actual in-game penalty for it.
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@ixvedeusi the only winning move is not to play.
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The link is to (a specific file in) a GitLab instance in the intranet. Why by The Mighty Flying Fuck does Teams want to make a preview with Trello of all things? I don't use Trello anywhere and I don't think anybody in our company does.
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The link is to (a specific file in) a GitLab instance in the intranet. Why by The Mighty Flying Fuck does Teams want to make a preview with Trello of all things? I don't use Trello anywhere and I don't think anybody in our company does.
Presumably, Trello has registered their app to be able to handle links with gitlab in the name?
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@Tsaukpaetra … and it's not
gitlab.com, it'sgitlab.ourcompany.cz… and the DNS record does not exist outside of our network and Trello is cloud-only.
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@Bulb Probably just matching
gitlabin the hostname. Not sure whether it is through
or 
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@dkf I'd call that
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WTF of my day: So, the MS365 suite of apps includes Whiteboard (technically, it's available for all but is included in the management tools nonetheless).
It's actually been my main tool for writing on electronic boards - it includes just enough tools (like a ruler or the ability to "lock" items so you can't accidentally move or erase them) to be very useful while not being overloaded with features. Other teachers use this as well.
Today I discovered that someone at MS had a brainfart and decided to rebase the whole thing. I mean, new UI, okay, I could live with that. But, no, they released a version with a massively reduced list of features.
- You now cannot "lock" items anymore
- Copy&pasting images to the board does not work anymore, you need to go through the "add image" workflow
- the ruler is gone (i.e. no straight lines anymore)
- "export as .svg" is gone as well
- importing a PDF or Word document is gone as well
- and, most importantly, the eraser now only does "erase by stroke" - i.e. you now only erase whole lines. Where before it was "erase by point", i.e. it worked like an actual eraser.
- there's probably more stuff missing
I actually opened a support ticket (after all, we're paying customers for MS365) and told them (diplomatically) in no uncertain terms that this is a massive shitshow and that I'd like the .appx of an older version so I can sideload that unto the schools' PCs and never update until they fix this shit.
But seriously: Who in the fuck thinks this "erase by stroke" thing to be useful? Who? No one I know actually uses that and everybody switches to the "actual eraser and not delete everything!" mode if possible.
Yes, it's easy. I realize that. However, we do not want what is "easy for you", we want "usable for us".
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Today I discovered that someone at MS had a brainfart and decided to rebase the whole thing. I mean, new UI, okay, I could live with that. But, no, they released a version with a massively reduced list of features.
GNOME syndrome
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@LaoC The proper name of “GNOME syndrome” is CADT.
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@LaoC The proper name of “GNOME syndrome” is CADT.
I mean, that was explicitly coined in reference to Gnome. So, yes, you're absolutely right.
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@topspin source, the ever wonderful jwz: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
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Well, that is a different way to index your search result pages. Thingiverse is ahead of the curve. Fuck "zero-based" indexing. They take the "This is Spinal Tap" route and go with "-1-based" indexing.
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It looks exactly like a Discourse "feature".
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Steam website is down for everyone except @Tsaukpaetra.
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This guy sued his bank because they insisted on putting a Y in his name where it should read é. The bank argued its 1995 AS/400 used EBCDIC and therefore they couldn't.
Yis a new one (well, new...). Theéin my name gets replaced by many things (usuallyéor=E9, but if that goes through a couple more loops it can end up being anything) but I never saw that one. I guess that proves that there aren't that many systems around that still use EBCDIC (thankfully!).Also that story about banking makes my old post even more relevant.
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@topspin source, the ever wonderful jwz: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
While jwz, as often, has a point (and coined a name that's here to stay), it's a bit rich for him to whine about people rewriting software from scratch. IIRC, a massive rewrite from scratch is what sunk the original Netscape, and he was a major actor of that.
(though Toby Fair, he doesn't say that rewrites are never a good idea and IIRC Netscape's code was deemed far too complicated to avoid one... but that's probably what all those ADT are saying when they start rewrites!)
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This guy sued his bank because they insisted on putting a Y in his name where it should read é. The bank argued its 1995 AS/400 used EBCDIC and therefore they couldn't.
Yis a new one (well, new...). Theéin my name gets replaced by many things (usuallyéor=E9, but if that goes through a couple more loops it can end up being anything) but I never saw that one.I think in this case it's an intentional replacement rather than automatic mojibake. They probably just tried to find a character that would sound vaguely similar while being very unlikely to actually be found in the middle of a name, giving some theoretically sorta-bijective mapping.
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@LaoC If so, that's probably even more stupid than mojibake. I know that in some languages diacritics are full letters (i.e. not equivalent to their non-diacritic'ed version) and that what you describe would probably make some kind of sense for those. But as far as I know
éis not one of them, and in French at least you can remove the diacritic (in fact, the same applies to all diacritics in French) and useeinstead and that will be widely understood and accepted.That's not to say that diacritics are optional (in French), but they're just modifiers rather than completely different lettres (=sounds), so while removing them isn't "correct" it's still understandable. It's also very commonly (if, again, improperly) done on capital letters, so everyone is used to it (e.g. my name in capital will very often be written
REMIeven though it properly should beRÉMI).There are some (rather rare) cases where the non-diacritic'ed version actually has a different meaning, though context (almost?) always solves the ambiguity. One of my favourites is how many conference halls are called: "palais des congrès." When written without diacritic (usually because it's in all-caps), this turns into "palais des congres" which literally means "conger fishes' hall!"
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There are some (rather rare) cases where the non-diacritic'ed version actually has a different meaning, though context (almost?) always solves the ambiguity. One of my favourites is how many conference halls are called: "palais des congrès." When written without diacritic (usually because it's in all-caps), this turns into "palais des congres" which literally means "conger fish' hall!"
There as some fun examples in Afrikaans as well. "Hoërskool" is "high school", while "hoerskool" literally means "whore school". "Poësie" is "poetry", while the translation of the non-diacritic version is left as an exercise to the reader.
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@LaoC If so, that's probably even more stupid than mojibake. I know that in some languages diacritics are full letters (i.e. not equivalent to their non-diacritic'ed version) and that what you describe would probably make some kind of sense for those. But as far as I know
éis not one of them, and in French at least you can remove the diacritic (in fact, the same applies to all diacritics in French) and useeinstead and that will be widely understood and accepted.Definitely more stupid. Looks like the typical half-baked manual solution someone in a bank would come up with.
That's not to say that diacritics are optional (in French), but they're just modifiers rather than completely different lettres (=sounds), so while removing them isn't "correct" it's still understandable. It's also very commonly (if, again, improperly) done on capital letters, so everyone is used to it (e.g. my name in capital will very often be written
REMIeven though it properly should beRÉMI).There are some (rather rare) cases where the non-diacritic'ed version actually has a different meaning, though context (almost?) always solves the ambiguity. One of my favourites is how many conference halls are called: "palais des congrès." When written without diacritic (usually because it's in all-caps), this turns into "palais des congres" which literally means "conger fishes' hall!"
In Portuguese, grandfather and grandmother differ only in accent; if you leave it off, even context may not help.
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In Portuguese, grandfather and grandmother differ only in accent; if you leave it off, even context may not help.
True, but the words have different genders and it's unlikely that there won't be a correspondingly gendered article or preposition somewhere around it.
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RÉMI.Short for DÓRÉMI?
Oh, my, what a thoroughly original and never-heard-before joke on my name!
:sarkmark:(
: it's "do", not "dó" -- I don't think óis ever used in French, even in loan words)
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In Portuguese, grandfather and grandmother differ only in accent; if you leave it off, even context may not help.
True, but the words have different genders and it's unlikely that there won't be a correspondingly gendered article or preposition somewhere around it.
True, but don't gender prepositions
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Māori example.
wētā : an insect belonging to any one of about seventy species
wēta : west (loan word from English)
weta :
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@Watson Yeah but are these letters-with-diacritics just diacritics added to a letter, or a full letter by themselves? If the later, then large differences in meaning are not a surprise, since in effect you're substituting one letter by another when removing the diacritic (it'd be kind of like saying that a
Eis just anFwith an added line and then say that some words change when you substituteEforF).In case the above isn't clear and to pick an example (but I'm sure many people will
me), as far as I know, čin Czech is a full letter. It's not "cwith a diacritic" (well it is, graphically, but it's not how it stands in the alphabet). But in French,éis not a letter, it's "ewith a diacritic." Compare for example the Wikipedia pages on Czech and French alphabets.That doesn't mean that computer systems don't get this wrong and might e.g. use
cwhere they should be usingčand totally changing the meaning. But in that case it's no different, linguistically speaking, to a computer system that would replace allEbyFor any other letter substitution. On the other hand, replacingébyeis not correct either, but it's... less wrong and kind of baked into the language itself.ETA: seems like in Māori those are letters with diacritics, not full letters. So your example is a good continuation of the current sub-thread and my post is just pointless
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True, but don't gender prepositions
And yet we do. Like in other Romance languages we have gendered prepositions deriving from an ungendered preposition contracted with a gendered article.
"Fun" fact: the only words (that I'm aware) which have a grave accent in PT are contractions of the preposition
a(translating to "to" in English, no gender) with one of:a("the", singular, feminine; which happens to be an homonym) →àas("the", plural, feminine) →àsaquele("that", singular, masculine) →àqueleaquela("that", singular, feminine) →àqueleaquelas("that", plural, feminine) →àqueleaqueles("that", plural, masculine) →àquele
I don't know a single word outside of this word family having a grave accent in PT; except maybe the interjection
Ò(which is currently spelledÓ, with an acute accent, anyway).By far the most commonly used are
àandàs, and it's pretty common for people to mispell them asá(which is "not a real word") orás("ace", noun, singular, can go both ways
) or even plain a/as(specially in BR because they pronounce it exactly the same).Oh, and if you're wondering where are the masculine versions of "the":
a+o→ao,a+os→aos.Filed under: no one asked; tldr.
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@topspin source, the ever wonderful jwz: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
While jwz, as often, has a point (and coined a name that's here to stay), it's a bit rich for him to whine about people rewriting software from scratch. IIRC, a massive rewrite from scratch is what sunk the original Netscape, and he was a major actor of that.
(though Toby Fair, he doesn't say that rewrites are never a good idea and IIRC Netscape's code was deemed far too complicated to avoid one... but that's probably what all those ADT are saying when they start rewrites!)
Complete rewrites have a very high cost. You'd better get something really good that you couldn't have before for all that cost.
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@topspin source, the ever wonderful jwz: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
While jwz, as often, has a point (and coined a name that's here to stay), it's a bit rich for him to whine about people rewriting software from scratch. IIRC, a massive rewrite from scratch is what sunk the original Netscape, and he was a major actor of that.
(though Toby Fair, he doesn't say that rewrites are never a good idea and IIRC Netscape's code was deemed far too complicated to avoid one... but that's probably what all those ADT are saying when they start rewrites!)
Complete rewrites have a very high cost. You'd better get something really good that you couldn't have before for all that cost.
But if the project is open source, a complete rewrite is free!
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a complete rewrite is free!
The phrase “opportunity cost” is critical here.
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@remi that was around the time he left Mozilla though, and the story goes that it was largely why he left, disappointed that they were rewriting from scratch.
Though it wouldn’t have helped their case any that it wasn’t “just” a browser, but the whole suite.
Also this is partly why my own project that should have been a from scratch build is dragging its heels through a(nother) round of refits.
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@Vault_Dweller said in WTF Bites:
There are some (rather rare) cases where the non-diacritic'ed version actually has a different meaning, though context (almost?) always solves the ambiguity. One of my favourites is how many conference halls are called: "palais des congrès." When written without diacritic (usually because it's in all-caps), this turns into "palais des congres" which literally means "conger fish' hall!"
There as some fun examples in Afrikaans as well. "Hoërskool" is "high school", while "hoerskool" literally means "whore school". "Poësie" is "poetry", while the translation of the non-diacritic version is left as an exercise to the reader.
It's a female house cat. Obviously.
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@PleegWat This is one of the funniest videos for an Afrikaans-speaking person
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there aren't that many systems around that still use EBCDIC
Even one is too many.
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In Portuguese, grandfather and grandmother differ only in accent; if you leave it off, even context may not help.
True, but the words have different genders and it's unlikely that there won't be a correspondingly gendered article or preposition somewhere around it.
True, but don't gender prepositions
And don't proposition someone of uncertain gender.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
In Portuguese, grandfather and grandmother differ only in accent; if you leave it off, even context may not help.
True, but the words have different genders and it's unlikely that there won't be a correspondingly gendered article or preposition somewhere around it.
True, but don't gender prepositions
And don't proposition someone of uncertain gender.
Not an issue if you're
-sexual.
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@dkf what do you call the thing you fry eggs in?
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@topspin Skillet.
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@topspin Skillet.
They're a decent band and all, but identifying as Skillet-sexual is probably going a bit too far.
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identifying as Skillet-sexual is probably going a bit too far.
That thread is
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Status: I run my own mail server. For the past few months, I've been unable to send any messages -- they keep getting bounced back by the recipient servers as "probably spam according to UCE-PROTECT". After some research, UCE-PROTECT has designated my hosting company's ISP as an incorrigible spam source and they're blocking the whole AS out of an abundance of caution.
So I opened a ticket with the hosting company, saying essentially "WTF? I pay extra for permission to send e-mail, and I have to deal with this crap? Fix this!"
Next month, I updated the ticket:
: I understand this is taking a while to remediate, but I notice you're billing me for permission to send e-mail while I can't send e-mail. I'm just ... not going to pay that until we get this resolved.
: Your ticket has been closed.So today, I sent them an e-mail, which since I run my own mail server came from there. It bounced, blocked as spam. I then called them on the telephone (!) and they said they'd e-mail an update shortly.
Well, I didn't get the e-mail. I saw their server try to connect to mine... and fail, because they've screwed up so badly that UCE-PROTECT, Spamhaus, SORBS, and Lashback all blacklist them now. I might have to front-run my own mail server because I don't think it lets me exempt just one server from those.
