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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
@levicki said in Internet of shit:
it was just someone else's computer which they are now turning off?
No, that's not what happened.
The wind of progress just blew the cloud away
Better that way. Not sarcasm at all, mind. Why did you think it was?
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
The wind of progress and disruptive innovation just blew the cloud away
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
article @TimeBandit posted said in Internet of shit:
older products “do not have enough memory or processing power to sustain future innovation.”
It's A FUCKING SPEAKER! HOW MUCH PROCESSING POWER DO YOU NEED?!??
Those cryptocurrencies don't mine themselves!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
article @TimeBandit posted said in Internet of shit:
older products “do not have enough memory or processing power to sustain future innovation.”
It's A FUCKING SPEAKER! HOW MUCH PROCESSING POWER DO YOU NEED?!??
All of it.
Not for the speaker. That's just a membrane with attached electromagnet.
Nor for the interconnect software, that would run happily on an ATmega328P@10MHz
No, it's for the embedded cryptocurrency miners that mine for Sonos using your electricity bill to do it.
.... what? it's not like they havent thought about it. am i so crass and cynical to think that they actually did it? Really?
well let's see how you think about that when i'm proved right. In under ten years....
/me puts on tinfoil underpants and bra and hides under a rock
(actual edit: gosh darned! someone already made the joke! and two hours ago! why did that not appear until after i posted this?!)
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@Vixen said in Internet of shit:
(actual edit: gosh darned! someone already made the joke! and two hours ago! why did that not appear until after i posted this?!)
You were too busy playing with tinfoil and didn't notice
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@levicki A baked potato?
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
@levicki A baked potato?
not sure if insult or cheekily changing the subject......
should probably gnaw on @hungrier's ankles just in case it's an insult....
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@Vixen cause my grandpappy was a chronogoblin so time just won't behave proper around me.
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@Vixen You won't get any potatoes doing that
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
A baked potato?
Well, two. Although it doesn't seem to be a very common euphemism for boobies. But, hey, whatever floats your boat.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
The wind of progress and disruptive innovation just blew the cloud away
Ok, I admit it. I farted.
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I suppose we'll find F-35s in garbage bins in 2025 or so, once the support for them is discontinued.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I suppose we'll find F-35s in garbage bins in 2025 or so, once the support for them is discontinued.
Or they all get shot down because the Russians pwnd them... or someone forgets to pay the cloud provider...
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@Zerosquare I don't think I'm covered by an NDA but I've heard that every device on every F-35 will end up with a unique IPv6 address and everything in the entire fleet will co-exist on the same LAN/WAN/whatever the heck you'd call that, so anything on any F-35 can talk to anything on any other F-35. (EDIT: At least the Ethernet devices, that is, which probably includes newer sensors and other EW stuff. There is lots of non-Ethernet/IP stuff on the plane, too, where the concept of an IP address could never apply.)
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@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
@Zerosquare I don't think I'm covered by an NDA but I've heard that every device on every F-35 will end up with a unique IPv6 address and everything in the entire fleet will co-exist on the same LAN/WAN/whatever the heck you'd call that, so anything on any F-35 can talk to anything on any other F-35.
that sounds like a really tempting target to attack..... once you get in you have access to everything..... infect the whole fleet with GLADOS...... in one go.
bye bye humanity.
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@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
so anything on any F-35 can talk to anything on any other F-35.
There's no way this can go wrong... (We can't even get self driving cars to avoid firetrucks or pedestrians.)
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@dcon fortunately, fire trucks don't fly yet
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
@dcon fortunately, fire trucks don't fly yet
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I suppose we'll find F-35s in garbage bins in 2025 or so, once the support for them is discontinued.
Cool, I'd pick one up from recycling. That might actually be worth hacking to restore functionality (you know, what people used to do to abandonware before it happened every other day with useless garbage).
Not that I have any knowledge about it, but I'm sure the collective internet does.
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I've heard they're a bit expensive to run.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
Not that I have any knowledge about it, but I'm sure the collective internet does.
F-35 is unclassified, so there is probably a fairly-public collection of standards documents that explain the whole thing.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I've heard they're a bit expensive to run.
I also can't fly one (without dying) so
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
Lockheed Martin said on Tuesday that a cloud-based network will replace the computer-based logistics system in all its F-35 fighter jets by 2022 end.
Whoa. I'm in awe that somebody was gutsy enough to say that in public (and probably kept a straight face too). I'm also slightly depressed that they actually managed to convince somebody that that will solve problems.
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
Lockheed Martin said on Tuesday that a cloud-based network will replace the computer-based logistics system in all its F-35 fighter jets by 2022 end.
Whoa. I'm in awe that somebody was gutsy enough to say that in public (and probably kept a straight face too). I'm also slightly depressed that they actually managed to convince somebody that that will solve problems.
Didn't think of it till now:
: Our new fighters all come equipped (standard feature!) with full electronic jamming!
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I suppose we'll find F-35s in garbage bins in 2025 or so, once the support for them is discontinued.
Now what do they actually mean by that? The initial idea that I have, of a fleet of trucks (now under cloud control!) moving stuff around the plane Just In Time while sporting the inanest of corporate phrases on the sides… well, that idea just doesn't fly. The F-35 just isn't big enough.
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I've heard they're a bit expensive to run.
I also can't fly one (without dying) so
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
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@JBert said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
What's a "furture"?
Furtive-torture.
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@Carnage said in Internet of shit:
@topspin said in Internet of shit:
@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I've heard they're a bit expensive to run.
I also can't fly one (without dying) so
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
Based on my observations of Microsoft Flight Simulator X.... Everything is hard.
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@JBert said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
What's a "furture"?
Furniture for those people who demand a gift of shrubbery.
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@Carnage said in Internet of shit:
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
Landing is also easy. Safe landing on the other hand...
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@Zecc "If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." - Chuck Yeager
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I suppose we'll find F-35s in garbage bins in 2025 or so, once the support for them is discontinued.
TFA is rather short on actual explanation, but I suppose they are talking about some kind of telediagnostics. Telediagnostics always needs a cloud component as a way for the data to flow from the craft to the maintenance and provisioning officers. But then that does not explain what they are going to replace, so…
@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
I've heard that every device on every F-35 will end up with a unique IPv6 address and everything in the entire fleet will co-exist on the same LAN/WAN/whatever the heck you'd call that, so anything on any F-35 can talk to anything on any other F-35.
Oh, so that sounds like they are going to replace the telediagnostic unit with dumbish routers and generate the diagnostic sequences directly server-side.
Normally (I have no knowledge of this specific system, but I work on telediagnostic in general) the telediagnostic unit runs some kind of scripts that collect the data. For the scripts that send out queries and then collect responses, sending a batch of queries directly from the server and processing the responses there is viable. However large part of the diagnostic is collecting statistic and detecting events based on values of various parameters and this have to be implemented craft-side, because the raw dataflow from which they are detected is waaaaay too large. Especially for a sat-link, the only thing that can connect a flying aircraft. So they probably won't save that much craft-side anyway.
Now I am somewhat wondering why/whether the military will allow this as it seems to reduce security, but the current solution almost certainly allows updating from the servers and the scripts will be able to send all the same kinds of packets the router will allow, so it's not that big change.
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@Bulb said in Internet of shit:
the military will allow this as it seems to reduce security,
Everyone knows military-grade encryption is defacto standard, so they should be OK with it!
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@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
@Carnage said in Internet of shit:
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
Landing is also easy. Safe landing on the other hand...
Filed under: Lithobraking.
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@Bulb said in Internet of shit:
Now I am somewhat wondering why/whether the military will allow this as it seems to reduce security
Have you seen the intelligence of the current commander in chief?
Shiny beads and the promise of boobies would buy you anything.
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@Bulb The phrase I've heard a few times is "sensor fusion," with examples of Plane A being able to launch an air-to-air missile at a target that he can't see, but using sensor data provided by Plane B which is many miles away. I also heard mention of putting one or two F-35's in a big flight of F-15's to provide sensor data for their systems, so the old jets can still be combat-effective and saving on the cost of launching a big flight of shiny new F-35's for missions that don't necessarily need a modern plane.
Of course, this is probably fifth or sixth-hand knowledge for me, so who knows.
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@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
@Carnage said in Internet of shit:
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
Landing is also easy. Safe landing on the other hand...
Like they say: it isn't the fall that kills you, it's the sudden deceleration at the end.
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@mott555 I hope that's a different thing from what they are talking about here, since TFA talked about maintenance and logistics.
Sensor fusion is of course a big thing in air force, but it requires stealthy data links (IIUC one can be created using sufficiently wide DSS based on good CSPRNG), and I don't expect bandwidth of such thing to be great (if they use a lot of power, anything will be very obvious, so they can't afford much of a signal-to-noise ratio) and therefore expect that to require all the clever tricks from their sleeves to get all the data they want over it. Far from plain dumb IP.
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@levicki none of those are the fall killing you. Even if you were not falling but were at that altitude, you'd still suffer the effects of the cold. The rest are impact effects.
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@levicki said in Internet of shit:
At 10,000 meters it is approx. -55 degrees Celsius
TIL: 10,000 meters is like being on the ground in
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@TimeBandit Makes sense, you could get up that high by climbing up a snow bank
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
@Carnage said in Internet of shit:
The actual flying bit is fairly easy. The landing and takeoff bits are hard.
Landing is also easy. Safe landing on the other hand...
Filed under: Lithobraking.
That reminds me, I haven't played KSP for a while.
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@Bulb said in Internet of shit:
TFA is rather short on actual explanation, but I suppose they are talking about some kind of telediagnostics.
YKYBOTDWTFTMW you read that as teledildonics...
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