WTF Bites



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    That signature includes stuff that might actually go in a signature (…, email address (yes, really)

    Given the Outlook brain worms it actually makes sense. You see, when Outlook quotes a mail for reply or forwarding, it does not include the sender's and original recipient's addresses if it has them in the address book (or something like that; not sure about the exact rules). Which is fine as long as the email gets forwarded around the company, because everybody sees the shared address book there, but then it gets forwarded outside and the recipient may end up not having the original sender's address.

    Just this morning I asked for some mail as attachment so I could reply to it, because the forwarded copy didn't have some of the addresses and being a subcontractor I don't see the shared address book.


  • Considered Harmful

    To any webpage containing one input, one submit button, and some instructional text, that doesn't auto-focus the input: :fu:


  • Considered Harmful

    @Tsaukpaetra It won't shut down if it doesn't have to, and 'shut down if necessary' takes up more space.


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @kazitor said in WTF Bites:

    WTF: mod_rewrite.

    Is that a piece of software that looks at URLs, and does absolutely nothing because :kneeling_warthog:?

    I have no way of verifying that it was, in fact, looking at the URL. Same effect though.

    I'm not sure if I've ever had mod_rewrite work properly on the first try.



  • @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    In other words: you're claiming things are this way "in the EU"

    No I am not. Why do you people ignore adjectives when reading?

    Oh, so when you wrote "in the EU (which is not monolitic and yes there will be exceptions in some countries)" actually you meant "in the EU (excepted in most countries)". Right, my mistake, that should have been obvious.

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    and for which I can tell you that things are not the way you describe

    So you are saying that EU countries do not have employee protection encoded in their labor laws?

    I am saying that in the countries I know, you don't "need to be careful and run everything you want to discuss through your legal and HR department before talking to the employee". You are also "allowed to tell them things like that in front of the others". You also don't need to "give them time to improve (say six months), and only if they don't improve they can be fired without possible legal consequences". There are rules, yes, and they are more protective of the employees than in the US, yes also, but it's nowhere as weird as you make it sound.

    It's true, however, that "it's best to part ways on good terms to avoid lawsuits", but that's true in every country in the world where there is a rule of law, it's always better to avoid lawsuits.



  • Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Mouse

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    It is a pretty good mouse when it's working, but as I've learned it is horribly unreliable. The previous one I had developed weird left click problems, where sometimes the click wouldn't register and sometimes it would click repeatedly, or release and click in the middle of a drag. So my work got me another one, exposing a non-reliability related design WTF: The receiver is permanently married to the device, with no possibility of reassociation like with Logitech devices and receivers. The first one of these I had was from a set with a keyboard (and numpad), and all with one receiver. Since the keyboard was still working (and continues working to this day) I only needed to replace the mouse, but now I had to use both the original receiver and the new one from the new mouse.

    Anyway the replacement has now developed an entirely new set of weird issues. At first, the back button (just below the start button (which itself is another WTF: WTF is it doing there at all?)) got stuck and caused strange things to happen on the computer (switching tabs in sublime text, browser navigation f'd) so I turned it off and used a basic mouse. Now, I tried it again and the back button is no longer stuck, but the rest of the buttons also don't work any more.

    TLDR: Buy Logitech



  • @remi Indeed. Our German courts usually look for two things:

    a) How severe was the offense (and did it actually amount to an offense) and
    b) given that the threshold for "fire with severe prejudice" wasn't reached, was the employee given a warning and a chance to improve?

    Also, if you as the manager want to do such a disciplinary talk it's not mandatory to include specific persons, you need someone as a witness, though (you also have to do a write-up and ensure that it's legally valid). The employee is usually allowed to invite someone from staff council.



  • @Rhywden I think here the "witness" part is optional and only applies to the formal interview where you are notifying the employee that he's fired (and why), previous disciplinary talks (if there are any... for a gross misconduct thing such as provably not doing any work at all, I don't think there need to be) have no formal setting. Formally speaking in that interview you're only notifying the employee of your intention to fire him, the official firing only happening when you send them a letter afterwards, but I suspect that in practice cases where there is an interview but not firing are very rare.

    I think that most court cases here revolve around two things: how conclusive the evidence produced by the employer is (i.e. it needs to be factual evidence, which is sometimes hard to gather when someone is just borderline not doing their job well enough -- and yes, that's a part where France differs hugely from e.g. the US, you can't fire someone just because you don't like him/her, there has to be some objective reason), and whether there was gross negligence or not (with various degrees of it in legal terms), because that has a huge impact on e.g. unemployment rights.




  • Considered Harmful

    Things my cat wants to eat:

    • cat food
    • human food
    • small animals
    • bugs
    • tinsel
    • plastic pine needles
    • cellophane
    • charcoal
    • unidentifiable bits of trash
    • other

  • Java Dev

    @error Mine's fond of fingernail clippings.



  • @Jaloopa said in WTF Bites:

    @error said in WTF Bites:

    I was driving home, and slowed down when I saw a vehicle emblazoned with PLANO POLICE.

    As I drove closer, I could see it said CITIZENS ASSISTING PLANO POLICE.

    A common one I see is people on big, white motorbikes with a high Viz jacket that says POLITE

    Other bikers think those guys are cunts.


  • Considered Harmful

    He actively seeks out cellophane, to the point of going into the wastebasket to find it.


  • Java Dev

    @error said in WTF Bites:

    He actively seeks out cellophane, to the point of going into the wastebasket to find it.

    Anything that's ever contained meat or fatty food, as long as their litter doesn't go into that bin. Haven't had them dig up a trash can containing kitty litter yet.


  • Considered Harmful

    That makes sense at least. I mean he even tries to eat the packaging for electronics. I watched him once to see if we going to eat or just play - he started munching on it.



  • @error said in WTF Bites:

    unidentifiable bits of trash

    My mother has one very large cat (he's almost bobcat-sized) who doesn't eat the trash, he just likes to play with it. And he's strong enough to drag the entire trash can around, so she'll come home from work to find a trail of trash leading to the stairs and a dumped-over trash can at the bottom...


  • BINNED

    @mott555 said in WTF Bites:

    @error said in WTF Bites:

    unidentifiable bits of trash

    My mother has one very large cat (he's almost bobcat-sized) who doesn't eat the trash, he just likes to play with it. And he's strong enough to drag the entire trash can around, so she'll come home from work to find a trail of trash leading to the stairs and a dumped-over trash can at the bottom...

    Lucy likes to wear your shoes and clomp down the stairs from the entry way to the TV room in the basement. Some days every pair of footwear is in the TV room, in a neat little line towards the litter box “room”....



  • Reading previous posts, the only logical conclusion is that cats are assholes 🤷🏻♂


  • BINNED

    @TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:

    Reading previous posts, the only logical conclusion is that cats are assholes 🤷🏻♂

    Yep, cats raise :wtf: to an art form.



  • @M_Adams Speaking of cats...

    WTF of my day:

    https://youtu.be/FtSd844cI7U


  • Considered Harmful

    @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    TLDR: Buy Logitech

    ITYM Razer



  • Depends on whether you think bad taste is an art form.



  • @error said in WTF Bites:

    ITYM Razer

    You forgot this emoji 🍹


  • BINNED

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @M_Adams Speaking of cats...

    WTF of my day:

    https://youtu.be/FtSd844cI7U

    My husband is a musical theater nerd. I’ve eaten slightly off foods to be able to duck out of going to: Cats, Stomp, Westside Story, Wicked, and Technicolor Coat. Was unable to avoid: Evita, Kiss of the Spiderwoman, Les Mis, Into the Woods, Little Mermaid, and Rent. God how I wanted mild food poisoning instead.




  • 🚽 Regular

    @M_Adams said in WTF Bites:

    Was unable to avoid: Evita

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  • @M_Adams said in WTF Bites:

    My husband is a musical theater nerd. I’ve eaten slightly off foods to be able to duck out of going to: Cats, Stomp, Westside Story, Wicked, and Technicolor Coat. Was unable to avoid: Evita, Kiss of the Spiderwoman, Les Mis, Into the Woods, Little Mermaid, and Rent. God how I wanted mild food poisoning instead.

    At first I was like "Why did you stay home and eat slightly off food, why not just eat good food?" and then.. "Ooh, he doesn't have a stomach that can deal with rotten and spoiled food without any fuzz..."


  • BINNED

    @M_Adams said in WTF Bites:

    I’ve eaten slightly off foods to be able to duck out of going to

    Has he realized by now that it's not entirely coincidental?


  • kills Dumbledore

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @M_Adams said in WTF Bites:

    I’ve eaten slightly off foods to be able to duck out of going to

    Has he realized by now that it's not entirely coincidental?

    Hey, let's go to see a musical.

    Great idea. Before we go, we can eat out at that really cheap seafood restaurant


  • 🚽 Regular

    I have in my hand two cereal bars still in their wrappers.

    I happen to know, because I just took them out of their respective boxes, that one if coconut flavoured and the other one is dark chocolate and orange flavoured.

    They look exactly the same (if you discount the "best before" date which happens to be different).
    All the wrappers say is "cereal bar" (besides the brand logo).

    I no longer know which is which.



  • @Zecc Well, just ask one of the bars what the other one would say if you asked it whether it's chocolate or coconut.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @error I used to have to hide bread. Once when fostering a kitten, I caught him dragging an entire loaf of bread (he straddled it, trying to drag it away from kitchen), while my other cat walked with him waiting for it to be opened... Now I knew who kept eating my bagels...

    My cat still likes bread, peanuts, hair ties, and twist ties. He seems to mostly have outgrown boxes though.



  • @remi That's ridiculous, cereal bars can't talk. You'd have to grab a third cereal bar at random, guess which one is the coconut one, reveal one of the other two and then switch your guess to the remaining one.



  • @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    @remi That's ridiculous, cereal bars can't talk. You'd have to grab a third cereal bar at random, guess which one is the coconut one, reveal one of the other two and then switch your guess to the remaining one.

    Naw, it's a classic example of Quantum Entanglement. You just have to collapse the wave function for one bar and then you immediately know the state of the other one.



  • @Rhywden Or, you could just tie one bar to a train track, the rest of the box of the flavour you don't like to another, and launch a trolley towards it. Then you have to decide whether to divert the trolley from the box of many bars that you don't like, to the one bar that may be the one you like.



  • @remi The simplest way would be to see if the bar is black and orange or white and blue (if it's blue don't eat it)


  • Banned

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    it's a classic example of Quantum Entanglement.

    Haha, I get it! Because classical mechanics!


  • Considered Harmful

    On the HP website, looking at laptop specs:

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    Such a deal! I get IE11 with Bing Search? And I can buy Office? AND THE PRINT DRIVER IS INCLUDED!!1!11one'

    Edit: Just realized that Buy Office probably means the software is installed without a license and will nag me to buy it. So it's literally worse than nothing.



  • "Buy Office" is literally included with Windows 10. It's an empty "app" that just tells you how to buy Office.

    The only reason this one can possibly be mentioned is to mislead people into thinking it includes Office.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    We have a table of data that we use to convert some times (plus a few other things) that users enter into percentiles. That data got updated recently with updated percentile data, which they sent to us in Excel spreadsheets. The times in question are on the order of minutes (less than an hour).

    Most of the data was, in fact, entered as mm:ss and formatted like that. If you expand it to show the full value, it might look something like 12/30/1899 00:12:30.

    However.

    Some of the data, hidden way down in the middle of stuff, while it looked correct (e.g., 12:48), was actually 12/30/1899 12:48:00.

    We store this data as an integer number of seconds, so within Excel I had done the needful arithmetic (CELL * 24 * 60 * 60) and put that into an INSERT statement. Of course, this worked perfectly for the good data and was spectacularly wrong for the wrong data.

    Fuckers.



  • @error said in WTF Bites:

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    What? It doesn't even include Candy Crush? What a ripoff.


  • Fake News

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @error said in WTF Bites:

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    What? It doesn't even include Candy Crush? What a ripoff.

    Well, that gets installed the first time you log in and is slightly randomized, so maybe the weasels realized that they shouldn't push their luck,


  • Fake News

    @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    I have in my hand two cereal bars still in their wrappers.

    I happen to know, because I just took them out of their respective boxes, that one if coconut flavoured and the other one is dark chocolate and orange flavoured.

    They look exactly the same (if you discount the "best before" date which happens to be different).
    All the wrappers say is "cereal bar" (besides the brand logo).

    I no longer know which is which.

    So... Lucky for you that the "best defore" date is different? Or did they manage to print different dates on the bars compared to the box?


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    I ordered a HP Microserver for an install we are supposed to do next week. I ordered it with a 2x2TB disk configuration so that I would have two bays open to install SSDs in to for the OS and such. It arrived with 4x1TB disks.

    Fuckers.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    Fuckers.

    A few weeks ago, we bought a few sticks of memory. Officially, it should have been about 40× 128GB memory modules, but the fuckers sent about a third of them as 64GB modules instead. Well that's no fucking good! We'll run out of memory slots in that server if we try to use 64GB modules as that's what we're upgrading it from…

    Fortunately, we're big enough that we can just tell our payments department to stop payment on the PO until the fuckers deliver what we ordered (and we're totally happy to send the unwanted undersize modules back). But there's some total shitkickers about in suppliers. Did they think we wouldn't check what we received? Really?


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @dkf I am sure they think "Well, it's fine, they are equivalent. They are getting the same thing."

    But it isn't the same thing. In some cases it might be. In others, people order specific things to fulfill specific use cases.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Polygeekery If we'd wanted twice as many 64GB modules, we'd have ordered that. (It would have been a bit cheaper too.)


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @dkf yeah, in memory it is pretty much never okay to substitute.

    I talked to them. They were out of stock on that model so they had one drop shipped from HPE, supposedly.

    I say supposedly because it came with Seagate Compute drives which are definitely not what I would consider suitable for a server. They are going to get back to me and he said they would probably just overnight me some WD Reds.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    WD Reds

    I've had good experience with those. 👍


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @dkf likewise.

    Seagate is on my shit list. A while back they silently switched all of their Compute series to SMR. We had been using them for cheap storage in use cases where failure rate didn't matter that much. DVRs mostly. And they had been working just fine.

    But they added a "0" to the model number and all of a sudden they were all SMR and SMR drives do not like rewrites. At all. So as soon as they filled up the DVRs just started shitting themselves. They would fill up the RAM with buffer and then crash the application. That one took a little while to track the root cause of. Especially so because if you Google the SMR model number it returns results for the PMR drives. I guess Google thinks that you just fat fingered an extra zero?

    I returned the ones I could (marked as "defective, because as far as I am concerned they are) and the rest are getting distributed in to FOG server builds and the like. Or I might chuck them in the trash.


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