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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
Our labour courts mandate that surveillance should be the last tool to use, not the first one - they usually ask you if you took steps to prevent the unwanted actions from happening.
Yeah, tell them if they are not productive they will be unemployed. I don't see why one would need to do more than that. They are businesses, not charities.
Maybe an example to make it more clear: You run a small supermarket and there's regularly money missing from the till.
Now, you could install cameras everywhere.
Or simply make everyone count their money before and after the shift and then let it be counted by a second person.We do both!
(Although the cameras are actually more of a CYA for the employees, because if someone else stole from your till you can prove it)
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Employees usually have next to zero leverage against their employers.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery "business is not charity".
That doesn't mean I don't think people should have paid vacations. I most certainly do.
But I do not think it should be a government mandated requirement either.
The problem is, most employers, especially employers of low-skill employees, would give exactly zero paid vacations if they haven't had the government guns against their heads. And low skill jobs is about half the working population. I don't think half the working population not being able to take paid time off every so often is a good thing for the society.
Funny. Every employer of significant size here in Florida gives PTO, despite there being exactly zero laws requiring it. In fact, many states don't have such laws, yet you still accrue PTO. Unless of course, you're still at minimum wage[1] at a fast food place. Because that means you're horribly unreliable.
Heck, when I worked for Walmart one summer, I'd have qualified if I'd have worked more than the few months that I did. And I was just a Garden Center employee, nothing special at all.
I think you have an overly-cynical view of things, really.
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You're usually required to give them a warning first
what the hell do you call signing off on the rules?
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Employees usually have next to zero leverage against their employers.
And yet I've been told you can simply claim harassment and that means employers can't monitor your performance.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
You're usually required to give them a warning first
what the hell do you call signing off on the rules?
I'll bet most people don't read them before
usingsigning, so obviously they're not going to be able to be held liable for breaking them.
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@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works?
In accordance to some in this thread it might as well be.
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The problem is, most employers, especially employers of low-skill employees, would give exactly zero paid vacations if they haven't had the government guns against their heads. And low skill jobs is about half the working population.
No and no.
All but the absolute shittiest of employers offer PTO. WalMart is one of the largest employers in the USA and is the most vilified and they have had PTO across the board for decades. McDonald's has PTO and no one will argue that is not a low skill job. I was in construction for a decade and I don't think there was a company I knew of that didn't have vacation and PTO.
My father lives out where men are men and sheep are nervous and even the farmers give their farm hands vacation days and such.
Shitty factory jobs have vacation days and/or accrued PTO.
I think you are massively mistaken here. And that is well before we get to the fact that PTO is not required to take a vacation.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works.
.........but it does for EULAs?
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works.
.........but it does for EULAs?
Nope!
I've made so many completely ridiculous actual statements, it completely baffles me that the only one you actually talk about is one I didn't say.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
I think you have an overly-cynical view of things, really.
Or overly Polish. I shluld probably stop talking with such confidence about other countries.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works.
.........but it does for EULAs?
Nope!
I've made so many completely ridiculous actual statements, it completely baffles me that the only one you actually talk about is one I didn't say.Because it's funny!
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra That's not really how it works.
.........but it does for EULAs?
Nope!
I've made so many completely ridiculous actual statements, it completely baffles me that the only one you actually talk about is one I didn't say.It's because no one here reads your posts. You know, minimizing liability...
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Telling employees bluntly that "if they are not productive they will be unemployed" is consdered a threat in civilized countries.
I read this again and somehow that is even dumber than the first time I read it.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Telling employees bluntly that "if they are not productive they will be unemployed" is consdered a threat in civilized countries.
I read this again and somehow that is even dumber than the first time I read it.
Some posts grow on you in time.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery "business is not charity".
That doesn't mean I don't think people should have paid vacations. I most certainly do.
But I do not think it should be a government mandated requirement either.
The problem is, most employers, especially employers of low-skill employees, would give exactly zero paid vacations if they haven't had the government guns against their heads. And low skill jobs is about half the working population. I don't think half the working population not being able to take paid time off every so often is a good thing for the society.
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@topspin if you work in construction and you can expect your monthly salary to be paid every month without any problem, then your country is lightyears ahead of Poland in cultural development and most likely nothing I say applies to it.
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@Gąska , I think.
I.e. I agreed with your post.
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TWO MONTHS TO DEPLOY A NEW VERSION?!
Guess that means they're going to break that "Don't Deploy On Friday" rule... Several times.
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"they'll be back in September".
They must live in one of those Euroweenie countries where everyone does on vacation for the entire summer. (The one thing I miss from my old company is the unlimited vacation. Back with a company that gives you 3 weeks/year. And I used to use 6... sigh.)
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
They are businesses, not charities.
Unless they're in the EU. Then that's backwards.
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@blek
Well, given that the alternative was to leave the old site up where anyone can mess with your settings simply by changing the userid parameter to the next sequential ID number in their request...That said, two months to change the system to use GUID user ids instead of INT does seem a little high...
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@TimeBandit
I’ve known several CC**’s that have the same approach.
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User complains that a given function in our API errors out. User does not know what the error is, but wants support. User knows enough about coding to compile C code, and to put
printf
's in to figure out roughly where the application is crashing out. User does not understand the concept ofprintf
-ing the error code returned by the faulting function, even though I gave them the exact code to do so.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
there are agencies booking all the slots available in advance and selling them to people at 10-20€ a pop.
That should not be allowed. The system is designed incorrectly. Sounds like I (as a citizen) could write a bit bot to snipe slots eBay style with no consequence. Only challenge is properly timing the reservation requests to come in before the fraud agency does.
it's South-East Europe.
If only that was restricted to there...
France infamously (at least for those who ever had to use it) have a similar system for immigration permits (i.e. extending your visa to permanent residence etc.). You have to book by internet, slots for the coming week (or month, I don't remember) get open a few days before, and literally the second they're open, they're somehow all taken. Hey, you couldn't get an appointment to renew your long-term visa? This means your visa is expired, you must now leave the country. Of course, some selected "agencies" miraculously manage to get you a slot, if you know who to ask...
That's part of the wonderful system to make-believe that the country is friendly towards immigrants, while actually being at least as hard, if not harsher, than most of our neighbours.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Look, all I am saying is that in the EU (which is not monolitic and yes there will be exceptions in some countries) there are laws protecting the employees from abuse. For example there is a law against wrongful termination and stuff like that. You really need to be careful and run everything you want to discuss through your legal and HR department before talking to the employee. You are also not allowed to tell them things like that in front of the others. You must have proof of misbehavior or bad performance, then give them a written warning before firing them to which they have the right to respond in writing if they disagree.
After giving the warning you must give them time to improve (say six months), and only if they don't improve they can be fired without possible legal consequences. Trust me, it's best to part ways on good terms to avoid lawsuits which can sometimes drag on for years costing company more money and employee time on witness stands than you could have saved by firing them. Even worse, if you are found guilty of wrongful termination you must hire them back and pay them all the salaries you owe them since the firing.That is all just horrible.
It's also entirely bullshit (at least for the EU countries that I know), so I guess all you need to do is avoid going to levickistan.
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That said, two months to change the system to use GUID user ids instead of INT does seem a little high...
I'm pondering the merits of changing the user ID column from
varchar(255)
containing the string representation of a guid (yes, it's exactly as I told it) now that I'm the only dev...
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@mott555 User should be removed from keyboard to prevent further damage.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
They are businesses, not charities.
Unless they're in the EU. Then that's backwards.
I work for what is technically a charity. We wouldn't put up with that shit, but we have nicer ways of telling someone to shape up or ship out. For example, if they've only got a few months of a fixed-term contract left then they're simply not rehired onto the next one, and find it very hard to find anyone else at WTF-U with an alternate position who's also willing to put up with them. Mysteriously, and with nothing on record. Permanent staff get a better deal than that, but they're still expected to pull their weight.
We're pretty relaxed about people having problems because of a family or medical situation. As long as the work actually gets done somehow.
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
You're usually required to give them a warning first
what the hell do you call signing off on the rules?
Hey, weren't you the one of those who argued in another thread that "everyone makes mistakes, that's how we learn" or something to that tune when I advocated punishing people immediately no questions asked?
what?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
Wireshark appears to be a hacker tool, you should not be using this in your office because it's a security risk
They must all be MCNA
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Telling employees bluntly that "if they are not productive they will be unemployed" is consdered a threat in civilized countries.
I read this again and somehow that is even dumber than the first time I read it.
Some posts grow on you in time.
The forum is kinda like a fungus that way.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Telling employees bluntly that "if they are not productive they will be unemployed" is consdered a threat in civilized countries.
I read this again and somehow that is even dumber than the first time I read it.
Some posts grow on you in time.
The forum is kinda like a fungus that way.
Will it ever grow a conscience?
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@Zerosquare Not a single bit surprised.
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WTF:
mod_rewrite
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Got an email from head quarters on an organization-wide mailing list of what is apparently the "central department for communication".
Subject: "[all--list-name] Test"
Body: Empty, plus about 25 lines of signature.
That signature includes stuff that might actually go in a signature (position/department, address, and phone number), web-site (), email address (yes, really), a line saying to please note their work hours, and a full paragraph of the organization's current PR slogan/drivel. At least no picturesReal experts that department of communication has there. I mean, sometimes employees send institute wide emails to "all" by mistake, but that's not the same ballpark.
Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?
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Trying to cancel the installation of Candy Crush by killing the offending process that's installing it.
Windows is snarky. No, ticking the box and clicking the "Shut down" button does not, in fact, shut the system down. Who knew?
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Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?
AFAIK email "signatures" are simply appended text after the body, and are treated as part of the message body. Which is why fun things happen with automatically inserted signatures about confidentiality and deleting unintended recipients and the like.
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@Tsaukpaetra Yes, it's a plain-text line of dash-dash-space followed by (I thought) 5-ish lines of signature. Not half a book.
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@Tsaukpaetra Yes, it's a plain-text line of dash-dash-space followed by (I thought) 5-ish lines of signature. Not half a book.
There's nothing in any rules I found mandating it in any email message spec, unless determined by corporate policy.
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
It's also entirely bullshit (at least for the EU countries that I know), so I guess all you need to do is avoid going to levickistan.
Yeah right, as if any of you know anything about any countries other than your own.
I know some things about the countries where I live, lived, or have strong personal links to. What makes you think this is in any way different from your knowledge of how things work? Are you a lawyer specialising in EU labour laws?
In other words: you're claiming things are this way "in the EU", by which you can actually only mean countries that you know ("levickistan"). There is probably a close-to-null intersection of those with those I know, and for which I can tell you that things are not the way you describe ("bullshit").
(your inability of seeing things other than in black in white in many other topics also makes me somewhat dubious of what you are saying on this one, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for the countries that you know and for which I don't have any other sources -- and I'm not saying that to be incendiary (this is not the garage), but to be honest about how I read what you write)
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That signature includes stuff that might actually go in a signature (position/department, address, and phone number), web-site (), email address (yes, really), a line saying to please note their work hours, and a full paragraph of the organization's current PR slogan/drivel. At least no pictures
You forgot the obligatory line thanking you for thinking about the environment before printing the email.
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WTF:
mod_rewrite
.Is that a piece of software that looks at URLs, and does absolutely nothing because ?
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That signature includes stuff that might actually go in a signature (position/department, address, and phone number), web-site (), email address (yes, really), a line saying to please note their work hours, and a full paragraph of the organization's current PR slogan/drivel. At least no pictures
You forgot the obligatory line thanking you for thinking about the environment before printing the email.
I have a theory that there's a one-to-one correspondence between people who put that in their email signature and people who actually print out emails.