WTF Bites
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@dkf By usual I meant matching the rest of the language. But there is nothing much exotic.
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A small one:
New version of what? Google suggests that it's "Azure Data Lake and Stream Analytics Tools", but it would be nice to know that without having to look up the version number and hope that there's nothing else with that precise version.
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but it would be nice to know that without having to look up the version number and hope that there's nothing else with that precise version
No need to know what it is. You just have to be a nice little sheep and blindly install every update ASAP and reboot, for your own safety and the good of society
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Tried to
docker pull nginx, can't becauseno supported platform found in manifest list. I'm doing this on an x86_64 machine, not some kind of hipster architecture. Turns out this is why:
"no supported platform found in manifest list" / "no matching manifest for XXX in the manifest list entries" · Issue #3835 · docker-library/official-images
TLDR: Not all architectures are created equal, but perhaps even more importantly, not all build servers we have access to are equal in performance, power, or ability to process builds reliably. Imp...
Sometimes, we'll have non-amd64 image build jobs finish before their amd64 counterparts, and due to the way we push the manifest list objects to the library namespace on the Docker Hub, that results in amd64-using folks (our primary target users) getting errors of the form "no supported platform found in manifest list" or "no matching manifest for XXX in the manifest list entries" (see linked issues below for several reports from users of this variety).
The issue is open since December, and has a ton of other issues linked to it, so people keep hitting it all the time. Sigh.
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@hungrier
I mean, it does say Stream Analytics Tools right at the top of the release notes
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@izzion True, but I didn't recognize that as part of the product name until after looking it up. And I wouldn't usually look for the product name in the update notes anyway.
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By usual I meant matching the rest of the language.
So… you can have a different language as long as it is the same language?
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Today was a good one. It was the third call for a desktop going to sleep when it shouldn't. Their LOB application cannot handle that and does not even gracefully fail. It spams you with a dialog telling you the connection to the database has failed. A competent person would open task manager and kill it and get back to work but these people are not what one would call "competent" so they had to reboot every time it happened.
First time we touch it the tech makes sure all power options are set to never put the desktop to sleep. Should be good to go.
Second time we touch it I send a tech onsite and tell him to check everything and to look for anything stupid that might be causing it.
He missed something because today was the third time so I handle it myself. I check everything I could think of, everything looks fine. Then I notice there is a paper shredder right in front of the tower on the floor. I give it a little kick and the computer goes to sleep. The paper shredder lined right up with the power button on the tower and when they would get up they would use their feet to spin the chair, bump the paper shredder and put the computer to sleep. When they would wake it up their LOB would spam them with notifications so they would reboot every time it happened.
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@Polygeekery Reminds me of
ITAPPMONROBOT
At the turn of the 21st century, Initrode Global's server infrastructure began showing cracks. Anyone that had been in the server room could immediately tell that its growth had been organic. Rackmounted servers sat next to recommissioned workstations, with cables barely secured by cable ties....
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@Polygeekery May I suggest changing the setting for the power button being pressed to do nothing? That's what I had to do due to cat jumping on top of the computer and stepping on the power button being very unhelpful.
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@Polygeekery May I suggest changing the setting for the power button being pressed to do nothing? That's what I had to do due to cat jumping on top of the computer and stepping on the power button being very unhelpful.
Meh, I changed it back to "Power down" as it should be. If we change it to do nothing and they have a hard lock of the OS then they would have to get under the desk and yank the cord to hard reboot it.
INB4 blakey telling me that never happens on Windows because it never locks up.
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@Polygeekery IIRC holding it down for 5 seconds still kills the power irregardless of the setting.
Also, move the shredder.
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WTF of my day: So, we got this new messenger tool. It has some possibilities but it also seems to be developed by Proper Fools Inc.
I'm also pretty sure I could do a better job given some time and money. Maybe not for the full functionality but the core functions would work.
For example, their Android App will sometimes crash if you either scroll to the bottom or the top of a conversation.
For some, a picture will crash the app.
I'm currently working with a pupil who cannot login to the web interface no matter what. No (useful) error messages anywhere (not even in the console) but logging into the app works fine.
That's by the way when I figured out that those guys don't care about error messages in the console - I can live with warnings but outright errors wouldn't make it into production.Also, they're pulling a whopping 2,3 MB for the login page. And, unsurprisingly, they never heard of tools to minify their code (yes, they included minified versions of jquery. But not their own code).
And I just solved the issue with the pupil - I originally thought that maybe it was his router because ALL his devices (two phones, two PCs with different browsers) were all having this problem. But then he turned off WLAN for his mobile and had the same problem.
I finally "solved" it by creating a new account for him - the new account works. The old one doesn't. There are no settings to fuck up which can cause this from our side.
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@loopback0 Yeah, it will. The do nothing on power button press is a Windows setting. Holding down power button for 4+ seconds is tied to the BIOS/UEFI and works regardless of OS. My cat has managed that one too after I set the power button press to do nothing in Windows. I was not amused.
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@Polygeekery May I suggest changing the setting for the power button being pressed to do nothing? That's what I had to do due to cat jumping on top of the computer and stepping on the power button being very unhelpful.
Our cats just like to type while I’m typing.
Filed under: That’s my story and I’m sticking to it...
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@Atazhaia One of you has a cat, the other has a shredder. Join forces and it sounds like problem solved.
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@loopback0 Get the cat to do the shredding? Might work… until someone brings some food.
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My cat has managed that one too after I set the power button press to do nothing in Windows. I was not amused.
Have you updated your cat with the latest firmware? I believe this issue has been fixed.
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Tried to
docker pull nginx, can't becauseno supported platform found in manifest list. I'm doing this on an x86_64 machine, not some kind of hipster architecture. Turns out this is why:
"no supported platform found in manifest list" / "no matching manifest for XXX in the manifest list entries" · Issue #3835 · docker-library/official-images
TLDR: Not all architectures are created equal, but perhaps even more importantly, not all build servers we have access to are equal in performance, power, or ability to process builds reliably. Imp...
Sometimes, we'll have non-amd64 image build jobs finish before their amd64 counterparts, and due to the way we push the manifest list objects to the library namespace on the Docker Hub, that results in amd64-using folks (our primary target users) getting errors of the form "no supported platform found in manifest list" or "no matching manifest for XXX in the manifest list entries" (see linked issues below for several reports from users of this variety).
The issue is open since December, and has a ton of other issues linked to it, so people keep hitting it all the time. Sigh.
what
Here's what a multi-arch image manifest looks like:
How exactly do you mess up a text file based on which piece of the text finishes being ready first?
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I love how a company, whose product has been touted as the best thing since sliced bread for software reliability, hasn't managed to fix a major race condition in their process 9 months after they found out about it. It sure inspires confidence.
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@ben_lubar As I understand it, the entries are produced by separate build processes and then something assembles them to the overall manifest. And that something publishes the partial results.
It is not that much a race condition—it does not create corrupt data—as publishing partial results.
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@Polygeekery May I suggest changing the setting for the power button being pressed to do nothing? That's what I had to do due to cat jumping on top of the computer and stepping on the power button being very unhelpful.
My toddler has discovered the allure of the glowing blue button on my PC. Especially annoying when she comes over and presses it while I'm in the middle of a proposal for a piece of freelance work and I've spent a good 10 minutes crafting the perfect cover letter
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Your toddler runs Windows 10?
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@Bulb: it creates something that doesn't work, so from the user point it's corrupt. And the cause is depending on something completing before something else, instead of using explicit synchronization. Seems pretty race-conditionish to me.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
@Atazhaia One of you has a cat, the other has a shredder. Join forces and it sounds like problem solved.
My mum ended up in hospital because of those two items becoming combined.
They had a Maine Coon with a really floofy tail and an automatic shredder. One day she managed to dip her tail into it and get it to start. Cue one gigantic cat orbiting a room at maximum velocity with a (now disconnected) shredder firmly attached to its tail.
My mother's plan was to go get a blanket and smother the cat before removing the shredder, and that would have probably worked nicely. But my brother decided to "help" and grabbed the cat, while trying to stop him getting eviscerated my mum got a large chunk of her leg sliced open.
The cat was absolutely fine, save for some lost fur.
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Apparently my sister's cat discovered how to activate the shredder by sticking her whiskers into the slot. Other than the constant noise from a shredder running unnecessarily, it's harmless, because whiskers are far too thin to get dragged into the machine.
This same cat used to stick her whiskers into the front fan of a desktop PC because the noise of her whiskers bouncing off the fan blades was amusing.
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My toddler has discovered the allure of the glowing blue button on my PC. Especially annoying when she comes over and presses it while I'm in the middle of a proposal for a piece of freelance work and I've spent a good 10 minutes crafting the perfect cover letter
How do you go that long without hitting control-S? I do it by instant after like every 3 letters. I grew up with unreliable shit-computers, never trust those motherfuckers they're just itching to lose all your data all the time.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
How do you go that long without hitting control-S? I do it by instant after like every 3 letters.
Spotted a Windows user
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
How do you go that long without hitting control-S? I do it by instant after like every 3 letters.
Spotted a Windows user
I thought he grew up on Mac Classic.
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I hit "Ctrl-S" all the time, too. I don't even realize it until I'm suddenly prompted with the "Save a Web Page" dialog while typing something up in a website.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
Spotted a Windows user
Most of those unreliable shitty computers were Mac Classic, so it would have been command-S. Happy?
The real problem was spinning rust, either in floppy or hard form. Spinning rust drives hate me. They fail on me all the time. The best thing I ever did in college was spend $125 on a ZIP drive and guess what? The instant I got rid of the spinning rust, those ZIP disks lasted for eons. In fact I don't think I ever had a ZIP disk or drive fail.
Now SSDs make computers a heck of a lot more reliable, but I still save like a fiend and backup anything I write to DropBox in real-time.
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I hit "Ctrl-S" all the time, too. I don't even realize it until I'm suddenly prompted with the "Save a Web Page" dialog while typing something up in a website.
Yeah, uh news flash: web apps have really shitty usability. This happens to me all the time too. (Some apps will actually override control-S to do the sensible thing.)
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It is not that much a race condition—it does not create corrupt data—as publishing partial results.
So it's a higher-level race condition. The problem is that they're not waiting for all required (by how people use it) data to be present before assembling the overall descriptor. Bugs aren't always low level things, and there's no limit to the amount of complexity that can both be created and go wrong.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
How do you go that long without hitting control-S? I do it by instant after like every 3 letters.
Spotted a Windows user
I thought he grew up on Mac Classic.
So he's adapted from ⌘+S. Due to (slightly) different keyboard layouts, that's very easy to do…
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@dkf Yeah the one I've literally never been able to get used to in like 15 years of using Windows is Page Down working differently.
(Although interestingly Chrome seems to ignore the OS and use Page Down in the Mac Classic way on Windows, I never noticed that before.... EDIT: Chrome doesn't do it in Discord, maybe some custom code NodeBB added? Weird. EDIT EDIT: in Twitter, Page Down both works like the Mac Classic version and it scrolls down the page even though the cursor is in a text field. Conclusion: everything's broken all the time forever.)
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
My toddler has discovered the allure of the glowing blue button on my PC. Especially annoying when she comes over and presses it while I'm in the middle of a proposal for a piece of freelance work and I've spent a good 10 minutes crafting the perfect cover letter
How do you go that long without hitting control-S? I do it by instant after like every 3 letters. I grew up with unreliable shit-computers, never trust those motherfuckers they're just itching to lose all your data all the time.
Web site. I would have copied it all out to a notepad window before submitting in case of session timeout but I've very rarely had a completely unprompted CTD or power loss that would lose something in progress
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@Cursorkeys said in WTF Bites:
My mother's plan was to go get a blanket and smother the cat before removing the shredder, and that would have probably worked nicely. But my brother decided to "help" and grabbed the cat, while trying to stop him getting eviscerated my mum got a large chunk of her leg sliced open.
Cats actually have a nice handle between their shoulder bones that has a secondary function to put them into stand-by mode. Being able to do the hanging cat grip properly is extremely useful skill¹. Alas, this skill seems far from universal even among cat
ownersservants.
¹ Some time ago our cat got some inflammation in the paw, so we went to a vet. We first wrapped her tightly in a blanket to fix her paw, but she was wiggling out. So I grabbed her by the skin between here shoulders and that worked great – until she started slipping out of my hand. Fortunately while she can put up quite a fight, she's otherwise nice, so I could put her down for a moment, grab her again and the doctor could resume the treatment.
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@Jaloopa Even shitty-ass NodeBB saves your text and I have it on good authority that this is a website.
Use a less shitty website is my new advice.
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@Bulb Cat burritos are fine and probably safer for both parties once the cat is secured. They work more universally too, the pinch shoulder thing relies on the cat's instincts overriding the cat's being a jerk.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
The real problem was spinning rust, either in floppy or hard form.
I still use HDs. But I only buy Western Digital drives, so I don't have any issue
My last Seagate died after 7 days
Sent it back and got a replacement. When I received it, I tested it and it worked fine. Put it back in the box (since I bought a replacement in the mean time) and when I needed it about 5 months later, it didn't fucking work.
Now, when I see a Seagate drive, I don't waist time and put it right where it belongs, in the garbage.
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@Cursorkeys said in WTF Bites:
My mother's plan was to go get a blanket and smother the cat before removing the shredder, and that would have probably worked nicely. But my brother decided to "help" and grabbed the cat, while trying to stop him getting eviscerated my mum got a large chunk of her leg sliced open.
Cats actually have a nice handle between their shoulder bones that has a secondary function to put them into stand-by mode. Being able to do the hanging cat grip properly is extremely useful skill. Our cat usually puts up quite a fight when you need to do something with her, but with properly executed hanging cat grip some hissing is all she'll manage – until she starts slipping out of your hand (fortunately she is otherwise nice, so I can easily suspend whatever treatment, re-grip her and continue). Alas, this skill seems far from universal even among cat
ownersservants.As @blakeyrat said, scruffing seems to be a bit hit-and-miss. It doesn't seem to work at all on my female and on my male it worked fine for trimming his nails but not for trying to give him a pill.
Possibly it's technique dependant too but I just wrap mine in towels now if they're being uncooperative.
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@Cursorkeys Plus you can think of this image while doing it and laugh:
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@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
It's still the same hole.
I'm shocked this didn't end up in QOOC.
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@TimeBandit
Generally I agree to this sentiment (and can hardly find anyone who doesn't or isn't at least indifferent). At least some years ago when I was in charge of forwarding customer items to distributor warranty services, Seagate drives were about the only ones that came back, sometimes more than once.Sometimes, though, a small dog plays dice with the universe. A few years ago again, an ST3000DM001 drive was being delivered to a customer. Nicely packaged in bubble wrap and all that. That customer immediately called us to complain that the packaging was damaged, the drive's metal case bent inwards and the connectors completely broken off the board. I'll spare the details of wondering how that's even possible, at least without pliers, and our quarrel with the company who did that delivery. The thing is, later connectors from a dead drive were soldered on, for science, to see if it even powers on, and we were considering making a speaker out of it. Well, long story short, that drive is still spinning and storing my slightly less important stuff.
(don't mind the dust *cough*, I'm about to clean it any day now...)
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@Applied-Mediocrity Exceptions confirm the rule
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