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@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
meat sandwiches (depending how long you need for "long lasting")
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Do I really need to add the emoji?
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@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
meat sandwiches (depending how long you need for "long lasting")
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Do I really need to add the emoji?
???
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@accalia said in Exact Instructions:
i don't really like PB&J, but i do recognize that it's an effective lunch, and damn convenient when i've once again slacked off and not prepared something for lunch last night.
Except that most schools are now nut and peanut free, so good luck with giving it to your kid for lunch.
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
Except that most schools are now nut and peanut free
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@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
Except that most schools are now nut and peanut free
I think? At least in the US. For good reason too. We're having a peanut allergy epidemic and nobody knows what's causing it.
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
We're having a peanut allergy epidemic and nobody knows what's causing it.
This is just a wild stab in the dark, but I think the cause may be peanuts.
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
We're having a peanut allergy epidemic and nobody knows what's causing it.
This is just a wild stab int he dark, but I think the cause may be peanuts.
Yes, but why are more people all of a sudden allergic to peanuts?
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@dangeRuss Because more people with weak immune systems live long enough to breed?
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
For good reason too.
No, "some kids are allergic, therefore you cannot eat it yourself" is really not good reasoning. Nut allergies are usually diagnosed very early, so everyone who has it should be aware of that.
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@asdf "some kids are so allergic they'll go into shock if they sit next to a kid who eats it" is. But I feel like, unless someone actually has it that bad, going nut-free is overkill.
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@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
For good reason too.
No, "some kids are allergic, therefore you cannot eat it yourself" is really not good reasoning. Nut allergies are usually diagnosed very early, so everyone who has it should be aware of that.
Yes, aware of it, but can you really stop kids from touching peanut butter by accident? Do you want to be the reason that some other kid dies because you gave your kid a PB&J for lunch?
Some people are allergic just to the smell of it. So schools do the reasonable thing and ban it from school. And I guess if you're gonna ban peanuts, why not nuts too. Some people have other nut allergies.
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
@accalia said in Exact Instructions:
i don't really like PB&J, but i do recognize that it's an effective lunch, and damn convenient when i've once again slacked off and not prepared something for lunch last night.
Except that most schools are now nut and peanut free, so good luck with giving it to your kid for lunch.
eeeh. i know the local schools aren't peanut free. sure the kitchens won't have the stuff, but as long as you don't sit at the two or three green tables you can bring in nuts and eat them (but no snacking on them in the class room.)
i think that strikes a nice ballance, the school won't provide and makes sure they're banned in places where students can cross contaminate. and the rule of "red tables are free territory, green tables have the same room as the classrooms with regard to allergens" is easy to explain and only the jackassedest of jackasses will violate it if they understand the why.
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
For good reason too.
No, "some kids are allergic, therefore you cannot eat it yourself" is really not good reasoning. Nut allergies are usually diagnosed very early, so everyone who has it should be aware of that.
Yes, aware of it, but can you really stop kids from touching peanut butter by accident? Do you want to be the reason that some other kid dies because you gave your kid a PB&J for lunch?
Some people are allergic just to the smell of it. So schools do the reasonable thing and ban it from school. And I guess if you're gonna ban peanuts, why not nuts too. Some people have other nut allergies.
Frankly, I think the real problem is kids bringing those sandwiches and whatnot to school. So just in case, we should ban all kids.
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@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss Because more people with weak immune systems live long enough to breed?
Two problems with that.
- Allergies aren't caused by weak immune systems
- Most allergies are caused by environmental factors, not hereditary ones.
Imagine the most wild caricature of a paranoid military general from some bad movie, who is always ranting about the need to destroy the enemy at all costs, and sees threats everywhere. That's the human immune system. It will hunt down and eradicate any bad guy it comes in contact with... and if it doesn't find any, well, it has to do something to justify its budget, so it takes the completely logical next step: it starts inventing new enemies to fight!
This is kind of a double-edged sword in the modern world. With our knowledge of germs and infection and the mechanisms of how disease works, we've made amazing advances in preventing contamination. Unfortunately, in many cases we make things too sterile, to the point where we leave the immune system without any valid targets. So it picks up on other things that have protein signatures that aren't naturally part of the body (such as peanuts) and goes nuclear on them, heedless of the collateral damage this causes to the body. That's not its problem, afterall!
(Related fact: many things we think of as disease symptoms are actually immune response symptoms, which is why so many different diseases, including horrible things like Ebola, produce "flu symptoms" early on.)
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
Yes, aware of it, but can you really stop kids from touching peanut butter by accident?
If your kid is allergic, you have to teach it to be extremely careful very early, e.g. not to touch or accept food from other kids. Banning peanuts from schools is not really helpful. If anything, it teaches them that it's okay to be careless.
As @Yamikuronue said, in extreme cases, you should make the teachers and the rest of the class aware. I'd say that's common sense.
Note that I'm not completely uneducated on the topic. My cousin has a severe nut allergy. She survived school just fine, though, and the rest of the kids were still able to enjoy their Nutella sandwiches.
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
This is just a wild stab in the dark, but I think the cause may be peanuts.
Or, as a local football coach calls them, "peanu's".
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@RaceProUK Its been the standard American child's lunch food for a very long time. But it does, indeed, end there: living in NZ, people were about as weirded out by the idea as they were by the phrase 'biscuits and gravy'.
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@Magus Yeah, but they eat vegemite.
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@Magus said in Exact Instructions:
people were about as weirded out by the idea as they were by the phrase 'biscuits and gravy'.
That's because in the rest of the world, biscuits are more like cookies than the savoury scones you call biscuits in the US
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@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
peanut butter and banana and nutella sandwiches
I don't care for nutella. Peanut butter and jelly/jam/preserves/honey and bananas are good, though.
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@Zecc said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
This is just a wild stab in the dark, but I think the cause may be peanuts.
Or, as a local football coach calls them, "peanu's".
Or, as some people (used to?) call them below the Mason-Dixon Line, "goober peas" or just "goobers".
(That's also a term for boogers... I wonder if there's a connexion?)
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@accalia said in Exact Instructions:
i don't really like PB&J
I like them - for various definitions of "J" which include apple butter. And jams. Ooo, blueberry jam! Bananas work too.
Ok, I guess "PB&J" has come to mean "peanut butter and something" to me...
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@abarker said in Exact Instructions:
@Magus Yeah, but they eat vegemite.
No, they actually don't, and they'd get offended if you said that. They eat Marmite :D
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@Jaloopa said in Exact Instructions:
@Magus said in Exact Instructions:
people were about as weirded out by the idea as they were by the phrase 'biscuits and gravy'.
That's because in the rest of the world, biscuits are more like cookies than the savoury scones you call biscuits in the US
I know that perfectly well.
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The review portion at 6:21 forward, dad sounds like Ryan Reynolds.
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@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
Yes, aware of it, but can you really stop kids from touching peanut butter by accident?
If your kid is allergic, you have to teach it to be extremely careful very early, e.g. not to touch or accept food from other kids. Banning peanuts from schools is not really helpful. If anything, it teaches them that it's okay to be careless.
Yes, but on the other hand, they're kids. Sure, if it made them itchy, I'd say fuck it and let them learn a life lesson. But if they can die from it, you want me to be a little more careful. Even if the school is aware, who knows if they will use the epi pen on time/properly. I'm going to go ahead and guess they've never had to do it before.
As @Yamikuronue said, in extreme cases, you should make the teachers and the rest of the class aware. I'd say that's common sense.
Note that I'm not completely uneducated on the topic. My cousin has a severe nut allergy. She survived school just fine, though, and the rest of the kids were still able to enjoy their Nutella sandwiches.
Well in this day and age they would've probably banned Nutella. Plus like I said some people are allergic to even the smell of it. Plus PB&J sandwitches can get messy, get on their hands, tables, etc. Even if a kid never accepts food from other kids, they can still get a reaction, and it can be life threatening.
I wonder what the issue is. Is it that we're testing too early? Some studies say that exposure to peanuts when you are young is likely to make sure you don't get allergic later on, on the other hand do you feel safe giving your kid peanut butter if you're not sure if they're allergic?
So now you get tested when you're 1 or so. And lets say it shows that you're allergic. And now you stay way from peanuts. But what if it's just a mild reaction that would've gone away 99% of the time if you were exposed to peanuts at that point? Of course doctors don't want to take the chance and are possibly making things worse.
Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this mystery soon.
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
We're having a peanut allergy epidemic and nobody knows what's causing it.
This is just a wild stab in the dark, but I think the cause may be peanuts.
You'd think. But more likely it's avoiding them. Avoiding giving them to infants, that is. By the time they're school age they've already got the allergy or not and exposure therapy for patients who've developed an allergy should be done, if at all, very carefully under a doctor's supervision.
That was suspected for a while and a recent study found a convincing link.
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I haven't liked peanut butter for years. I'm not sure why.
This opposed to boiled eggs, which I don't know and I know exactly why. It has to do with a joke.
's family is having boiled eggs.
Do I have to eat it all?
Yes, you have to eat it all.
Even the legs and the beak?I didn't eat another boiled egg for at least a decade.
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@PleegWat Back in high school, I was involved in a certain play. One day, sometime around Halloween, we were doing rehearsals, doing a scene involving a guy and his family at dinner. Because it was around Halloween, we had a bunch of Halloween candy that they were using as rehearsal props to indicate food.
Dad has something important to tell everyone, so he says, "my family, lend me your eyes and ears!" as per the script.
Son rolls a little chocolate ball, with foil wrapping to make it look like a zombie eyeball, across the table to him. Everyone cracks up laughing uncontrollably, one of those situations where everyone just keeps laughing because everyone is laughing, for almost 5 minutes straight. Finally, when people have managed to compose themselves, Dad flat-out says "we're going to have to change that line, because after this I will never be able to say it with a straight face again."
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TRWTF is he is using the knife with big-endian. I mean, come on, everyone knows the default should always be little-endian.
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@The_Quiet_One Hey! You trying to get this sent to the garage or something?!?
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
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@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
going nut-free is
overkill.nuts
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
That's cause we invented peanut butter.
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
Next you're going to tell me you've never had a Fluffernutter.
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@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
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@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
That's cause we invented peanut butter.
Good ol' George Washington Carver.
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
Next you're going to tell me you've never had a Fluffernutter.
I haven't. Must be a regional thing.
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
Next you're going to tell me you've never had a Fluffernutter.
I'm 32, and that's the first time I've heard that term.
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@abarker said in Exact Instructions:
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
That's cause we invented peanut butter.
Good ol' George Washington Carver.
Common guess, but apparently not. Wikipedia attributes it to Marcellus Gilmore Edson, a Canuck.
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@Yamikuronue said in Exact Instructions:
That's not the same method the kids were using.
Of course not. Their instructions sucked.
My method might or might not make a better PB&J (this is apparently controversial) but it's easier to break down into unambiguous stepwise instructions because it removes the confounding influence of the second slice of bread until that slice is actually required.
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@abarker said in Exact Instructions:
@dangeRuss said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
@RaceProUK said in Exact Instructions:
I must admit, I've never understood the appeal of the PB&J. Then again, I've never actually had one.
You poor child. That explains a lot.
It's never been a thing in the UK. The only reason anyone knows about it here is imported US TV.
That's cause we invented peanut butter.
Good ol' George Washington Carver.
Common guess, but apparently not. Wikipedia attributes it to Marcellus Gilmore Edson, a Canuck.
Edson received a patent for peanut paste, true, but Carver's pamphlets which he published from the Tuskegee institute gave the peanut a massive boost in popularity among farmers, which made them much more available to manufacturers like Kellogg.
So maybe we 'MURICANs didn't invent peanut butter, but we made it popular!
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@chozang said in Exact Instructions:
Next you're going to tell me you've never had a Fluffernutter.
Loved those things!
Peanut Butter + Fluff
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@dangeRuss and the robe and wizard hat thing is a famous IRC trolling that you can see here:
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@flabdablet sudo make sandwich
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@asdf said in Exact Instructions:
Nut allergies are usually diagnosed very early, so everyone who has it should be aware of that.
I never met anyone allergic to nuts, but I turned allergic to chicken after 30 years (probably they just started putting penicillin based antibiotics on it, since I was already allergic to that, who knows)
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@RaceProUK
d for leaking content. :P
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@izzion I take it is Trolleybus Garage?
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@RaceProUK
That's the principle, yes.