WTF Bites
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@NedFodder said in WTF Bites:
can of shaving cream has started rusting, which is leaving a rust stain in our shower. Since I'm the one that has to clean it ... ways to prevent it.
Paint the bottom, or just the rim since I presume it has a concave bottom, with something - acrylic paint might work - that's quick-drying and won't wash off? This would probably work best if done on a new can, before it rusts.
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What if I told you there was a blog homepage out there that was ~23M in size and used 25 TCP connections just to load... Take a guess which blog it is...
I seem to remember seeing this page. Isn't that one that mentions @Maciejasjmj ?
Filed under: Free @mention , you're welcome!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
I seem to remember seeing this page. Isn't that one that mentions @Maciejasjmj ?
...maybe.
Filed under: seriously though, no idea what you're talking about
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
@bb36e It's literally like using a SockBot to run your Operations center. WHY.
It could be kinda-sorta useful if your team fucks around on Slack for half a day like ours does:
Hey, how's the development going? Are all the regressions fixed?
Let me check. @sockbot build feature-branch
Build FAILED. 0 of 969 tests passed.
Oh bother.Obviously not a replacement for any sort of devops process, but kind of a productivity nice-to-have, I guess? Unless I'm misunderstanding it.
We do have a Slack channel hooked to VSTS and showing a commit feed, and from what our testers say it really cuts down on the "has thing X been committed already?" chatter around the office.
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@Maciejasjmj has summoned me, and so I appear.
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@Maciejasjmj We put all build notifications into Slack at SockDrawer. Which is really nice. But we trigger a build based on every push, so it's not like we need a chatbot to do that.
These people are talking about things like
Build 101 succeeded
!deploy build 101
Build 101 deployed to production
ALERT: performance on Service A has dropped below the acceptable threshold
!rollback build 101
Build 100 deployed to production
performance on Service A has risen above the alert threshold again
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@Yamikuronue
Heh, I was on this trend before it was cool. #chatbotTimeclock(onAsterisk)
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Heh, I was on this trend before it was cool. #chatbotTimeclock(onAsterisk)
I don't think you were the first...
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@Maciejasjmj
No, no, like a punch clock you use to record your time at work. But you interact with via Jabber (via Asterisk logging in to Jabber and operating a bot that then updated the database for the web timeclock software I found as open source abandonware... written in PHP).
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
@Maciejasjmj We put all build notifications into Slack at SockDrawer. Which is really nice. But we trigger a build based on every push, so it's not like we need a chatbot to do that.
@sockbot view latest build feature-branch
then? Often I don't feel like scouring through VSTS to find the branch and the latest build on it, so I can see how the automation (and the ability to put it in a discussion context) could be useful.These people are talking about things like
Build 101 succeeded
!deploy build 101
Build 101 deployed to production
ALERT: performance on Service A has dropped below the acceptable threshold
!rollback build 101
Build 100 deployed to production
performance on Service A has risen above the alert threshold againI wouldn't mind that too much, actually. Especially the alerts - I'm more often looking at Slack than at my mail client. Deploying to production from Slack or IRC seems rather silly, but honestly it's not that much different than clicking the button in your build system, and it cuts down on the number of screens, services, portals and clients you need to juggle, so that's nice?
Think about it like this: wouldn't it be nice if instead of flipping tabs between Jenkins, GitHub, Travis, CloudFlare, JIRA and whatnot you could just access all of that stuff from a single application? If it was, say, a command line utility doing the same, I don't think anybody would bat an eye.
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@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
you could just access all of that stuff from a single application
Ah yes. Chrome.
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@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
you could just access all of that stuff from a single application
Ah yes. Chrome.
It's more of an operating system by now... Remember how Windows 95 kept DOS around, but sucked the brains out of it? It's getting sort of similar.
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@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
If it was, say, a command line utility doing the same, I don't think anybody would bat an eye.
I would. That is the absolute worst way to present information about production; it's basically Twitter: fast-moving, short messages, that aren't retained very long. I'd rather have the deploy button right next to the graphical representation of prod's condition.
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
I'd rather have the deploy button right next to the graphical representation of prod's condition.
I've got a separate screen at work for all that stuff. Another for the IDE, and a third for
WTDWTFvery serious research.
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
I would. That is the absolute worst way to present information about production; it's basically Twitter: fast-moving, short messages, that aren't retained very long.
AIUI, it's not replacing the actual systems it's integrating with, so you can still have a proper dashboard and deep status insights in addition to the convenient Twitter-style alerts.
Perhaps it hinders the discipline a bit when you're not forced to look at the half-red dashboard before deploying to production, but that's a people problem more than a technology problem.
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@Yamikuronue I should probably clarify: putting alerts in chat is great. But you can't make decisions based on a couple of brief sentences. You need to dig into the data. So put the controls where you can get a bigger picture. Otherwise you encourage people to only read the summary and then take action.
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@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
but that's a people problem more than a technology problem.
Protip: the hard problems (outside of academia) always are.
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
but that's a people problem more than a technology problem.
Protip: the hard problems (outside of academia) always are.
Well, talking from experience, no amount of alerts, warnings and red lights will solve that. The developers just learn to pull the batteries out of the smoke alarm, the more eagerly the louder it beeps.
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@Maciejasjmj But this is the opposite issue: if the smoke alarm is an irritating ringtone but wth t he touch of a button you can turn on the sprinklers in every room (and silence the alarm), how long before everyone's electronics get fried?
Filed under: wait what
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
@Maciejasjmj But this is the opposite issue: if the smoke alarm is an irritating ringtone but wth t he touch of a button you can turn on the sprinklers in every room (and silence the alarm), how long before everyone's electronics get fried?
I give it about three mi`%1{&#@%+#&%NO CARRIER
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@Maciejasjmj said in WTF Bites:
Heh, I was on this trend before it was cool. #chatbotTimeclock(onAsterisk)
I don't think you were the first...
Get with the times:
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@Yamikuronue said in WTF Bites:
@Maciejasjmj We put all build notifications into Slack at SockDrawer. Which is really nice. But we trigger a build based on every push, so it's not like we need a chatbot to do that.
These people are talking about things like
Build 101 succeeded
!deploy build 101
Build 101 deployed to production
ALERT: performance on Service A has dropped below the acceptable threshold
!rollback build 101
Build 100 deployed to production
performance on Service A has risen above the alert threshold againBuild 101 succeeded
!deploy build 11
Crap.
!abort
starts filling out her letter of resignation
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(via Asterisk logging in to Jabber and operating a bot that then updated the database for the web timeclock software I found as open source abandonware... written in PHP)
Sounds like a pretty standard setup. Shipit!
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@NedFodder said in WTF Bites:
can of shaving cream has started rusting, which is leaving a rust stain in our shower. Since I'm the one that has to clean it ... ways to prevent it.
Paint the bottom, or just the rim since I presume it has a concave bottom, with something - acrylic paint might work - that's quick-drying and won't wash off? This would probably work best if done on a new can, before it rusts.
Or wrap the bottom with some duct tape, or even a plastic bag taped around it. Or even put it into a plastic bag. If the can has time to rust, I'm assuming that this is because it's not used often enough to be emptied before it starts rusting, so the inconvenience of a bit of tape or plastic is probably not going to be an issue.
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The linked page is a treasure trove of error'd.
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Or wrap the bottom with some duct tape, or even a plastic bag taped around it. Or even put it into a plastic bag. If the can has time to rust, I'm assuming that this is because it's not used often enough to be emptied before it starts rusting, so the inconvenience of a bit of tape or plastic is probably not going to be an issue.
I was thinking that if it has time to rust it has time for tape to either come unstuck (if its adhesive can't handle the water) or start peeling around the edges, or for a plastic bag to get really manky and mouldy from the wet and leave mould stains instead of rust stains.
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@CarrieVS If the can is really not used that often, maybe it would make sense to store it elsewhere than in the shower?
(there is a high potential here about the amount of stuff that some people of a gender that I won't name tend to leave around in the bathroom...)
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@NedFodder
Obviously, the real solution is to tell your wife that hair legs are fine, and she doesn't need to use shaving cream
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@Dreikin
I seem to have a y...
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hair legs
Are we talking canine, lupine, vulpine, feline, or something else?
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@RaceProUK Spider.
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@dkf Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer partners with two legs rather than eight.
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@RaceProUK said in WTF Bites:
I prefer partners with two legs rather than eight.
Some prefer partners with 3 legs
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@TimeBandit And some prefer four, but that way lies madness, and we shall not go there, instead we shall go to the ice cream store and get ice cream.
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@RaceProUK said in WTF Bites:
we shall go to the ice cream store and get ice cream.
I'm in Canada. Ice cream stores are only open for a couple days in July.
People don't buy ice cream when it's freakin cold outside
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@Vault_Dweller said in WTF Bites:
@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
I'm in Canada.
My condolences
Could be worst, I could need a license to watch TV
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
I could need a license to watch TV
But then you'd be watching TV, and that's even worse still…
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
People don't buy ice cream when it's freakin cold outside
I disagree. I am people[citation needed] and I do.
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Obviously, the real solution is to tell your wife that hair legs are fine, and she doesn't need to use shaving cream
Tell her I like her mustache.
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@NedFodder said in WTF Bites:
My wife's can of shaving cream has started rusting, which is leaving a rust stain in our shower.
Get her a wet shaving setup with soap, a mug and brush. They give much better shaves than the canned stuff, and don't cost that much more in the long run.
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@TimeBandit pop on over to a Mickey dick's!
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WTF of the day (for me):
This "study" purports that MP3 robs music of its joyous nature, keeping only the negative emotions. I'll spare you from reading the idiocy which is this study and point right to the WTF:
Compressed sounds were encoded and decoded using the LAME MP3 encoder [49]. Instrument sounds were compressed with three different bit rates. As a preliminary step, we listened to the sounds compressed at different bit rates and judged that 112 Kbps sounds were the lowest bit rate that sounded nearly indistinguishable from the original sounds. Sounds at 32 Kbps had obvious artifacts. We selected 56 Kbps as an intermediate bit rate
Morons.
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This "study" purports that MP3 robs music of its joyous nature
Idiots. Everyone knows that digitizing robs the music. Analog, baby!
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@boomzilla I think that's a pretty common thing
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/investors-buy-worthless-stock-after-confusing-it-successful-company/357081/
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/03/26/a-case-of-mistaken-identity-sends-another-oculus-soaring/The funny part is, there might not even be any actual mistakes, just people who expect the values to go up because of the name similarity and want to cash in, crating a mini-bubble.
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@Rhywden I think what the title tries to say is not "MP3 files sound bad", but rather "MP3 compression is emotionally perceived as this". So obviously they had to pick a low bitrate in order to cause the noticeable compression.
Still a bad title and a pretty pointless study.
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Dear Windows update: if a big update is going to take an hour, please tell me it's going to take an hour, not "a few minutes". It just makes people dislike you even more.