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That quote at the end, oh my fucking god
Time ceases to exist. Laughter erupts as his first reaction is “Wow, it’s so big”. He rocked our perspective that this is the smallest sophisticated motorized gearing system we’ve seen in a lock. The lab goes quiet as the only sound is the turning of the Otto drivetrain in David’s precise hands. Turn, turn, turn and stop. Repeat. Stillness, thinking, calculating reviewing…this continues with slight turns and then quiet. Ten minutes feels like hours as the turning stops and David peers up from his speciality glasses. There’s a collective pause in breath, waiting for his verdict. David Candaux’s words are as meticulous as his manner, “May I use this design?”
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@blek There was some discussion of this in the WTF Bites thread as well.
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@blek said in Internet of shit:
Laughter erupts as his first reaction is “Wow, it’s so big”
This never happens to me :(
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@blek Lovely comment from one of the El Reg readers:
Was recently sat in front of the telly with my partner and we were treated to the heart-warming Yale advert for their IoT-lock-thingummy.
In the ad the prodigal daughter comes home having been sent an electronic "key" via smartphone. She let's herself in and joins the family Christmas gathering. My partner, a very measured lady with refreshingly little technical knowledge, quipped "If they loved her so much they'd have given her a real key".
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"That means 'Alexa, ask Kohler to flush my toilet' is something you might end up saying in the near future,"
No. No it is not.
Genuine question: has anybody outside the Silicon Valley reality distortion field ever actually bought one of these things?
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@jaloopa said in Internet of shit:
No. No it is not.
Genuine question: has anybody outside the Silicon Valley reality distortion field ever actually bought one of these things?
The Kohler Konnect or the Echo? If the former, then no and if the latter, then yes; what reality distortion field are you in?
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@heterodox said in Internet of shit:
what reality distortion field are you in?
The one where there are hundreds of adverts showing people using these assistants in different ways, but none of the uses are anything more than a gimmick at best
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@jaloopa said in Internet of shit:
"That means 'Alexa, ask Kohler to flush my toilet' is something you might end up saying in the near future,"
No. No it is not.
Genuine question: has anybody outside the Silicon Valley reality distortion field ever actually bought one of these things?
Well, at least some of us in the distortion field say 'oh fuck no'.
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@jaloopa said in Internet of shit:
The one where there are hundreds of adverts showing people using these assistants in different ways, but none of the uses are anything more than a gimmick at best
I have relatives who have tons of the things at home and have tied them into everything to the extent that it's very convenient for them. "Play <album> from my music on the downstairs speakers." "Turn on the Christmas tree in the living room." "Find me a recipe for cornbread."
The fact that I (and probably you) have different priorities doesn't mean they're living in a different reality. I'll give them that they're probably as happy or happier with their "smart" house than I am with my "dumb" one.
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@jaloopa My roommate bought Google Home so he could play music without fiddling with his phone and the Bluetooth speaker.
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@heterodox I always wondered how the "find me a recipe" thing works, since I've seen it used as an example a lot. Does it display the recipe for you on a screen somewhere or does it start reading it? The former requires a screen and the latter just sounds incredibly inconvenient.
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@blek said in Internet of shit:
@heterodox I always wondered how the "find me a recipe" thing works, since I've seen it used as an example a lot. Does it display the recipe for you on a screen somewhere or does it start reading it? The former requires a screen and the latter just sounds incredibly inconvenient.
It just starts reading it. You tell it "next ingredient" or "next step" to have it move on. I've used it, it's actually not as inconvenient as it sounds; having to grab a phone or look at a laptop screen is probably less convenient. You can talk while kneading, with dirty hands, with your head in the fridge, or whatever.
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/it-s-not-vpn-it-s-alwayshome-streaming-alternative
It's still a VPN. But somehow they claim it's up to ten times faster?
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
It's still a VPN.
Not if they aren't encrypting it. Which it doesn't seem like they are. Supposedly they're using something like this (there are multiple things listed but they don't give specifics):
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Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who makes the NSA agent currently watching this feed the most nauseated of all?
https://youtu.be/ObTUmQPqdF0?t=1m10s
Also, am I the only one amused at the idea of Microsoft using a Raspberry Pi for this?
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@scholrlea I am watching more of the video, and it's starting to scare me. Apparently San Diego wants every streetlamp to have cameras and microphones.
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@pie_flavor said in Internet of shit:
@scholrlea I am watching more of the video, and it's starting to scare me. Apparently San Diego wants every streetlamp to have cameras and microphones.
Some official must have moved here from England.
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@pie_flavor said in Internet of shit:
@scholrlea I am watching more of the video, and it's starting to scare me. Apparently San Diego wants every streetlamp to have cameras and microphones.
They just want to prepare for Case Nightmare Green :)
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@rhywden said in Internet of shit:
They just want to prepare for Case Nightmare Green
That's such a good series.
@scholrlea said in Internet of shit:
Also, am I the only one amused at the idea of Microsoft using a Raspberry Pi for this?
Possibly. Microsoft has been big into putting Windows 10 IOT on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoard, etc. I keep meaning to try it out.
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@heterodox said in Internet of shit:
Possibly. Microsoft has been big into putting Windows 10 IOT on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoard, etc. I keep meaning to try it out.
I'm using an RPi3 with an attached 7" touchscreen - works fine. The deployment tool is pretty easy to use - there's only one drawback: If you want to deploy an UWP app to the RPi or want to administrate it you'll need to connect it to a LAN (and the controlling PC will need to be inside the same LAN). Administration/deployment is not possible over WLAN (everything else is possible, of course).
The later releases have support for an onscreen keyboard (which you'll need to enable through the admin tool, however) so if you get a touchscreen like mine you can forgo mouse and keyboard.
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Ed Zitron's tweets about CES are all great (scroll around in the link below) but I think this one's the best. Peak Internet of Shit.
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@blek is it any more accurate than the in-ear period detector?
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@blek is it any more accurate than the in-ear period detector?
E_WRONG_ORIFICE
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@tsaukpaetra I must have missed that. Jesus!
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@blek said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra I must have missed that. Jesus!
Apparently they're shipping now.
Anyone wanna spot me $125 to try it out?
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@tsaukpaetra
If you're going to try it out, then I feel obligated to provide some ry RE: your previous post.The device isn't using temperature to detect menstruation, it's using temperature to detect ovulation, which is basically the opposite end of the cycle. So basically the full moon instead of the new moon :P
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@heterodox said in Internet of shit:
@scholrlea said in Internet of shit:
Also, am I the only one amused at the idea of Microsoft using a Raspberry Pi for this?
Possibly. Microsoft has been big into putting Windows 10 IOT on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoard, etc. I keep meaning to try it out.
I wasn't think about that; I was wondering why they were using an off-the-shelf, maker grade SBC rather than something closer to what they would actually use in a product. The Pi 3 is a great system, but it is still one aimed at hobbyists; I am sure that they would have access to one which is more, I dunno, suited for a professional design project? Even if they were going to use a makerboard, rather than a professional prototyping board, I would have expected it to be something like a Tinker Board instead of the RPi3, just because they have established business relationships with Asus.
I would really be amused to see them use the RPi in the finished product, though. They certainly could, of course - plenty of smaller companies have made products with them - but them doing so would raise eyebrows, I think.
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@scholrlea said in Internet of shit:
sed to see them use the RPi in the finished product, though. They certainly could, of course - plenty of smaller companies have made products with them - but them doing so would raise eyebrows, I think.
It's interesting. I work for a mid-size manufacturer and we developed a system with an RPi in it. It didn't get past the prototyping stage but it was complete and worked nicely.
I made a very ill-judged post on a forum, when the RPi was just a twinkle, that the project was doomed to failure as the SoC manufacturers won't even let you see specs unless you meet their, extremely large, MOQs. Obviously they worked out a deal and it's been fabulously successful.
We did meet MOQ problems with our project and in spite of managing to haul a Sales Engineer in we couldn't work out a deal with the SoC manufacturer. So, the RPi was designed in (after working a potential volume deal out with the distributor) as a solution to basically get us the SoC we needed in the quantity we could consume.
Edit: A beefy FPGA with a bunch of purchased IP cores would have done instead but the cost would have been far, far in excess of the budget.
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@scholrlea said in Internet of shit:
The Pi 3 is a great system, but it is still one aimed at hobbyists; I am sure that they would have access to one which is more, I dunno, suited for a professional design project?
They now do the 'Compute Modules' which are kind of aimed at this use-case, it's just the SoC and memory on a DIMM-style module:
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@cursorkeys said in Internet of shit:
DIMM-style
It's not just style:
Article said:
the same type of connector as used for laptop memory
I can't wait for stories of people trying to shove this into a laptop to add more cores or something stupid like that...
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@dcoder Not highlighted above: cleartext passwords. Though I'm sure everyone noticed that.
An attacker can [...] control the victim's sex toy directly over the internet.
Alas, it's over the internet; otherwise "man in the middle" would take a different meaning.
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@zecc said in Internet of shit:
otherwise "man in the middle" would take a different meaning.
"darling, lately it seems you've gotten much more skillful... Have you been hacked?"
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@zecc said in Internet of shit:
@dcoder Not highlighted above: cleartext passwords. Though I'm sure everyone noticed that.
An attacker can [...] control the victim's sex toy directly over the internet.
Alas, it's over the internet; otherwise "man in the middle" would take a different meaning.
The "lucky Pierre" attack
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How about an $8700, wifi enabled, robotic umbrella with Harmon Kardon speakers and a charging port for your phone?
Coming soon. They have already raised $2M in funding. Because of course they have.
More, if you want to watch a video about it:
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And once again porn drives innovation
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@boomzilla said in Internet of shit:
According to some adult movies, shouldn't it order pizza first?
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@luhmann said in Internet of shit:
And once again porn drives innovation
I'm not sure it exactly qualifies as "innovation", but yeah.
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@boomzilla said in Internet of shit:
What if you don't orgasm? Also, I think they are really overestimating how many calories one would burn during a session of masturbation.
"Peggy has put on quite a bit of weight."
"Her and Dave broke up. She got the new CamSoda vibrator. She's been eating 10-12 pizzas a day for weeks now."
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@polygeekery
On the other hand, Peggy is probably not a Minute Man.
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@izzion said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery
On the other hand, Peggy is probably not a Minute Man.Those pack quite the explosion.
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My mother bought a new washing machine. She has trouble finding the right program, so she recently told me "I've seen that I can make my program on my computer and upload it to the machine. I think I'll try that."
Stand-by for incoming IoT ...
(my only hope is that, being not too friendly with computers, she'll be stuck at the first on installing the software on her computer and will never get around to actually use it)
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But don't worry, our new robot overlords only have our best interests at heart.