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@cursorkeys I can see them not running at the scale where injection-molding is cost effective, and pre-made plugs being cheaper than 3d-printing.
Also you can't advertise it as electronics if it's all plastic.
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@pleegwat said in Internet of shit:
you can't advertise it as electronics if it's all plastic.
Sure you can.
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@mrl said in Internet of shit:
Sure you can.
Superior dielectric performance
@pleegwat said in Internet of shit:
I can see them not running at the scale where injection-molding is cost effective
I reckon a single-impression tool should cost them about 8k US for something that simple (based on our tooling costs). Don't know how many of those they can sell though.
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I looked into using a 3D printer to create something that can be transferred to a custom injection mold. I forget the details but it didn't look expensive or difficult at all.
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@tsaukpaetra And the major question about Nope Sound: What makes it better than just, you know, muting or disabling the microphone inputs? My laptop even has a hotkey for that exact purpose.
checks website Oh, it's for phones too. Dunno what makes it more convenient than using the Mute button in the phone app, because that's a thing too. "The best iPhone microphone blocker." But... The new iPhones don't have microphone ports. And other phones are dropping it too. So... How's that plug gonna work with them? And what if I want to block the microphone but use my headphones?
I also noticed that it comes with a webcam cover. So I guess it's for all the tinfoil hat wearers that are certain the government is spying on them.
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@cursorkeys: the "is there anything plugged in?" detection is done with a switch, yes. But determining whether there's a microphone or not (for compatibility with "regular" headphones) is done by measuring the current flow through the fourth contact on the plug, so you need a real plug and a resistor. Otherwise the internal microphone(s) may not be disabled.
And even $8k seems expensive for something that small and simple. IIRC, a much more complex and larger aluminum mold can be manufactured for roughly one quarter of that price. (Steel molds are an order of magnitude more expensive, but unless they're planning on manufacturing really large quantities, it's probably not worth it.)
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@cursorkeys said in Internet of shit:
That was definitely the way one of my old phones did it because I had it apart to fix the power socket.
No longer for the smaller ones. I have used a cheap plastic "bling" things as a dust cover (it's exactly like a carrot dildo, but for mice) and it didn't impact my phone or computer.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
Why do you think I know exactly what's inside it?
X-ray vision.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
it's exactly like a carrot dildo, but for mice
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@blakeyrat said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
Why do you think I know exactly what's inside it?
X-ray vision.
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@zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
@cursorkeys: the "is there anything plugged in?" detection is done with a switch, yes. But determining whether there's a microphone or not (for compatibility with "regular" headphones) is done by measuring the current flow through the fourth contact on the plug, so you need a real plug and a resistor. Otherwise the internal microphone(s) may not be disabled.
That's interesting to know. At least there is a resistor in there then for your money.
And even $8k seems expensive for something that small and simple. IIRC, a much more complex and larger aluminum mold can be manufactured for roughly one quarter of that price. (Steel molds are an order of magnitude more expensive, but unless they're planning on manufacturing really large quantities, it's probably not worth it.)
Ours are all tool steel, I don't recall aluminium being discussed but we have some complex gating so maybe that isn't a viable option if you start getting fancy.
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@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
it's exactly like a carrot dildo, but for mice
Now I have you wondering, huh?
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@pleegwat said in Internet of shit:
@cursorkeys In that case, wouldn't a solid-plastic plug work just as well (and probably be cheaper to manufacture)?
Or you just spend $0.50:
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@pie_flavor [was talking about a Samsung fireplace, and I've already started typing] However, the fun facts only work if the wireless environment is good, otherwise it actually catches fire.
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@gurth That plug-with-apparently-even-trying-to-be-a-real-strain-relief costs more than 50 cents, it also costs at least a minute of installation time at rate.
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@gribnit said in Internet of shit:
@pie_flavor [was talking about a Samsung fireplace, and I've already started typing] However, the fun facts only work if the wireless environment is good, otherwise it actually catches fire.
@gribnit said in Internet of shit:
@gurth That plug-with-apparently-even-trying-to-be-a-real-strain-relief costs more than 50 cents, it also costs at least a minute of installation time at rate.
Hey @anotherusername I think your Markov bot escaped...
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@mott555 Statistics are usually guessed at in practice
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@gurth said in Internet of shit:
@pleegwat said in Internet of shit:
@cursorkeys In that case, wouldn't a solid-plastic plug work just as well (and probably be cheaper to manufacture)?
Or you just spend $0.50:
When you use that on your phone it does carry the risk that you snap it off and / or damage your phone's built-in jack.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
it's exactly like a carrot dildo, but for mice
That is a mental image I didn't need on a Monday morning (or ever).
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@rhywden said in Internet of shit:
Plus a "Don't put tomatoes in the fridge, you nitwit" warning.
I'd rather have them be bland, or whatever the fridge does to tomatoes, than have them rot before I can finish using them.
@heterodox said in Internet of shit:
As well as potatoes and onions; I've seen people put both in the fridge. It seems to blow their minds when I give them the common-sense rule that if it wasn't refrigerated in the produce section it doesn't need to be refrigerated at home.
Potatoes last longer in the fridge, but I stopped when I realized that it does make a noticeable difference when frying them. (Fridgerated taters have more sugars, which caramelize and burn, making it difficult to fry them to a golden crisp without them getting burnt.) I use potatoes quickly enough that I can usually get through a 10 pound bag of them before they get too bad -- just some extra spots that I have to dig out.
Onions I store in the fridge because again, it takes me a long time to use a 3 pound bag of onions. They go bad less quickly in the fridge. Also, I'll sometimes pre-chop them and freeze them in ziploc bags (especially when a recipe calls for less than a whole onion; the rest goes into the freezer).
@benjamin-hall said in Internet of shit:
(uncut) apples are another. Do you want grainy, mushy apples? That's how you get them.
Absolutely yes, this. It's just not worth the extra shelf life at the cost of them going all grainy and bland.
@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
I don't put onions in the fridge; I put them in the freezer. It drastically reduces the amount of syn-propanethial S-oxide that is released into the air when they are sliced or chopped, making for a less eye-watering cooking experience.
If they're frozen, how do you cut them? Do you thaw them out first? Wouldn't that make them soft, and tricky to cut?
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
If your kitchen is designed in such a way that it locks from the outside (i.e. you can't just turn the lock knob) you're doomed anyways.
It may be that the door "locked" by the dog knocking something over that blocks the door from opening.
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@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
it's exactly like a carrot dildo, but for mice
That is a mental image I didn't need on a Monday morning (or ever).
It comes in clear or black!
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@anotherusername said in Internet of shit:
If they're frozen, how do you cut them? Do you thaw them out first? Wouldn't that make them soft, and tricky to cut?
The ideal state is partially frozen, but even frozen solid, a sharp knife will slice them without too much difficulty.
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@tsaukpaetra Jack Black comes in earphone variety?
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@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
@anotherusername said in Internet of shit:
If they're frozen, how do you cut them? Do you thaw them out first? Wouldn't that make them soft, and tricky to cut?
The ideal state is partially frozen, but even frozen solid, a sharp knife will slice them without too much difficulty.
Cutting a whole, frozen onion seems like it would be a good way to have it spin out from under your knife so you'd end up chopping your thumb off.
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@Polygeekery, were you cutting a whole frozen onion with a hatchet?
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@pie_flavor said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra Jack Black comes in earphone variety?
I did say it was for mice.
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@anotherusername said in Internet of shit:
@rhywden said in Internet of shit:
Plus a "Don't put tomatoes in the fridge, you nitwit" warning.
I'd rather have them be bland, or whatever the fridge does to tomatoes, than have them rot before I can finish using them.
Then why buy them at all if you don't even want the tiny bit of taste unrefridgerated tomatoes provide?
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@anotherusername said in Internet of shit:
Cutting a whole, frozen onion seems like it would be a good way to have it spin out from under your knife so you'd end up chopping your thumb off.
What the shit?
Don't freeze them whole. If you're going to freeze them, chop them first. Freeze them on a cookie sheet with wax paper. Once they've frozen, dump them into a freezer bag. Ready to go, not clumped together.
If you are going to be dubm and chop a whole frozen onion: put it on a "nest" of kitchen cloth (paper, or cloth if you don't care if it gets nicked). A cut-proof glove is also suggested, but at least this way it won't go flying.
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@lorne-kates said in Internet of shit:
Don't freeze them whole. If you're going to freeze them, chop them first.
The whole point of this sub-discussion was that freezing them was mooted as a way to make the chopping part easier. Chopping them first would defeat the point.
@hardwaregeek said in Internet of shit:
I don't put onions in the fridge; I put them in the freezer. It drastically reduces the amount of syn-propanethial S-oxide that is released into the air when they are sliced or chopped, making for a less eye-watering cooking experience.
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
When you use that on your phone it does carry the risk that you snap it off and / or damage your phone's built-in jack.
So remove the plastic bit and any metal that it covers except the disc at the front, and solder on a flat piece of brass perpendicular to the plug as a handhold similar to the plastic one on the version @Tsaukpaetra posted. You’d still be a lot cheaper off than
$25$12.50 for exactly the same functionality.
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@gurth said in Internet of shit:
You’d still be a lot cheaper off than $25$12.50 for exactly the same functionality.
As @Zerosquare already pointed out way upthread, that would work for turning off the speakers, but probably not for the microphone. Phones usually use the 4 pole jacks (TRRS), but attempt to be compatible with the 3 pole ones (TRS, pictured above). To distinguish between the 3 pole and 4 pole variants (ie. no mic vs. with mic) they'd need to do something more fancy than just check if there's anything physically plugged in.
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@ixvedeusi Computers, on the other hand, mostly stick to a pair of 3-pole ones, separate for speakers and mic. So there just plugging in anything will do.
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Assuming this is an honest question, and YMBNH...
@bb36e_ said in Internet of shit:
@polygeekery said in Internet of shit:
hi what is the origin of this meme
There was some ruckus in the Initiative Q thread about how people should actually reply instead of (silently) giving negative Internetpointzzz by clicking the "Downvote" button.
Since Blakeyrat was involved in that conversation, other people who like to see him flip out now can't help but post these thumbs-up emojis whenever they agree or disagree with one of his posts.
Still sure you want to stay on this forum?
Have a nice day.
EDIT: Damn, you really are the clone of https://what.thedailywtf.com/user/bb36e - what with the inverted avatar and all.
Oh well.
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@bb36e_ you still haven't got your account back?
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@ixvedeusi said in Internet of shit:
As @Zerosquare already pointed out way upthread, that would work for turning off the speakers, but probably not for the microphone.
So add the resistors or whatever when you’ve got the soldering iron out to put on that brass handhold. Do I have to think of everything?
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@tsaukpaetra I didn't have internet for a few days so the reset link I got from ben expired, so ill ping him again or just start anew idk
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
you really are the clone
I'm the evil clone. I unfollowed all categories except for the garage, and even turned on ultra-infiniscroll
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@bb36e_ poser
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@bb36e said in Internet of shit:
@bb36e_ poser
Well at least he's willing to let it out. Most people show their dick in other ways besides their username...
Filed under: @Tsaukpaetra___________
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
There was some ruckus in the Initiative Q thread about how people should actually reply instead of (silently) giving positive or negative Internetpointzzz by clicking the "Upvote" or "Downvote" button.
Since Blakeyrat wasinvolved in that conversationthe one saying votes are worthless, as he has many times before,FTFY
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
There was some ruckus in the Initiative Q thread about how people should actually reply instead of (silently) giving negative Internetpointzzz by clicking the "Downvote" button.
Specifically, blakey was bragging about how he's never clicked the button ever and how people should reply if they liked his posts.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
Most people show their dick in other ways besides their username...
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Article @timebandit linked said in Internet of shit:
The perpetrators phone a kiosk, play the mouthwatering tunes from their phone, and switch to the kiosk's home screen to hide that there's a call in progress.
What the fuck? Phone the kiosk? Why is that even a thing??!! Are there so many unused phone numbers around you can just assign them to
anythingrandom poles on the sidewalk???
Filed under: IPv4
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@tsaukpaetra From what I've read it's an oversized Android thingy which is meant to be used to surf the Internet. But since it (likely) uses a SIM card, it's apparently possible to receive calls after which you can hide the "Phone" app in the background.
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@tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
Speaking of shit, why does everything have to be the "World's most X" in almost literally every single campaign?
Something tells me the second one must not be HD...
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@jbert said in Internet of shit:
@tsaukpaetra From what I've read it's an oversized Android thingy which is meant to be used to surf the Internet. But since it (likely) uses a SIM card, it's apparently possible to receive calls after which you can hide the "Phone" app in the background.
TRWTF is that they haven't turned off voice calling through the carrier (which may or may not be possible, depending on the carrier), and/or turned off notifications from the phone app so that it won't ring for incoming calls (yes, you can do that).
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@anotherusername Don't carriers offer data-only plans for this sort of thing anyway?