WTF Bites
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@Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:
@Rhywden It's UPS. This is what they do.
UPS should be renamed to UDP.
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@Zerosquare quoted in WTF Bites:
The feature will roll out once Google is able to build Chrome with the Windows 10 Build 19041.0 SDK, though this is currently blocked due to unexplained build failures.
“We could enable it now but that would cause build warnings. Therefore enabling it is blocked on a switch to the Windows 10.0.19041.0 SDK which is currently blocked on some mysterious build failures,” the engineer notes.
@TSAUKPAETRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
UPS should be renamed to UDP.
IDGI
UDP doesn't guarantee delivery, order, or...well...much of all. Compared to TCP, which does. So UPS (which sucks at delivery) is more like UDP than TCP.
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@Benjamin-Hall Notice the fish.
Although it's true what @GuyWhoKilledBear said:
We have more emojis for trolling than Eskimos have words for snow.
So I see how that might not have been as obvious.
Also, I'm rather fine with UDP for our IoS stuff. The packets go missing inexplicably all the time, but the opposite - I'll tell the joke again and again until you get it - is equally bad. Plus, cancellations and keep-alives are more difficult to wrangle in code.
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@Zerosquare quoted in WTF Bites:
system apps such as Edge
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Given how aggressively MS advertises Edge on Win10, it would be understandable to mistake it for some part of the OS.
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I do like GoogleBot's willingness to keep trying despite the failures. It's fun.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:
UDP doesn't guarantee delivery, order, or...well...much of all.
It includes a simple checksum (intended to detect dodgy hardware) and port number over just banging out raw IP packets. It's supposed to also handle splitting and reassembling jumbo packets, but relying on that is for the brave; it's strongly recommended that practical message sizes are kept no larger than the Ethernet MTU and that when things get larger, you switch to TCP.
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It's supposed to also handle splitting and reassembling jumbo packets
I'm pretty sure that's an IP layer feature; it's just disabled for TCP.
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UPS should be renamed to UDP.
Or OOPS. Almost sounds the same too.
We even already pronounce it like that in Poland!
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it's just disabled for TCP.
TCP auto-tunes the packet size to be the minimum MTU on the entire packet path.
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it's just disabled for TCP.
TCP auto-tunes the packet size to be the minimum MTU on the entire packet path.
Path MTU discovery is all IP/ICMP, and it's slightly different for IPv4 and IPv6.
The sending peer sets the IP don't fragment flag.
For IPv6, if an intermediate router can't accommodate the packet size due to MTU limitations, then it will not fragment the IP packet (since that's not allowed) but instead drop it and send back an ICMPv6 message telling the originating peer that packets of that size can't be handled, and what the maximum size is. The sending peer can then retry with a smaller size. This process could then repeat with a router further along the path which has even lower MTU.For IPv4, it can work the same way. However, it is also legal for an intermediate router which knows how TCP works to fix the problem itself, by splitting the single TCP fragment into two halves, and warp those in separate IPv4 packets (which would still have DF set).
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Path MTU discovery is all IP/ICMP
Yes, and in theory any IP-based protocol could use it. Most don't. Specifically, UDP most definitely doesn't unless you do special extra steps. Those steps are non-portable, from what I can see.
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@dkf Yeah, on a protocol level it's simple (you just need to be able to keep track of and handle a maximum message size). But how you actually get at it is going to depend on your network stack.
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But how you actually get at it is going to depend on your network stack.
A lot of the effort in the area has been spent on TCP (which is the big bandwidth user) and that now largely looks after itself. The problem with UDP is that you've really got to involve the application in the MTU discovery process, as it can't be hidden inside the stream implementation, and that in turn means that there's wonderful scope for it going wrong. And it isn't standardised as the mechanisms for doing this stuff are just slightly too new.
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As good a place to post this as any, I suppose...
What with the COVID lockdowns and all, our benevolent government created an additional entitlement to benefits a while back - for parents who need to take time off work to look after their kids when daycare/kindergarten/school is closed.
A co-worker hadn't received any money so far - despite the first application (there were several extensions) being filed in early April - and we couldn't really determine why until today.
Turns out, all of their paperwork was received, no problem. The good folks over at Social Insurance split the workload between themselves and the short of it is that the person responsible for my co-worker's papers hasn't done anything with them for over two and a half months. Why? Because.
Also, for an extra dose of "if things can't be better, let them be funnier" - the SI person responsible was, allegedly, sent to the office handling my co-worker's papers in order to "speed up the processing of the massive workload involved".
I don't even...
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Adobe Reader: Sometime between selecting double-sided printing, cancelling because I wanted to print something else first and see if my toner was ok despite complaining about being low, and re-opening the print dialog, the thing completely forgot that my printer could do double-sided printing.
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@HardwareGeek I wish. Everyone else got their money just fine (different offices, 'coz place of residence). It's literally a case of one person refusing to do their job.
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@GOG Rephrase: Unfireable government non-workers.
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@HardwareGeek Yep, that sounds about right.
Incidentally, the latest COVID-related legislation is to facilitate firing of government administration employees. Somehow, I anticipate that the people who are actually doing their jobs will be quicker to lose 'em.
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@HardwareGeek Yep, that sounds about right.
Incidentally, the latest COVID-related legislation is to facilitate firing of government administration employees. Somehow, I anticipate that the people who are actually doing their jobs will be quicker to lose 'em.
Of course. They make the others look bad.
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@dcon More like: they are less likely to be associated with a certain political party or other powers-that-be. I mean, what's the use of having pull if you still have to actually work?
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@HardwareGeek Yep, that sounds about right.
Incidentally, the latest COVID-related legislation is to facilitate firing of government administration employees. Somehow, I anticipate that the people who are actually doing their jobs will be quicker to lose 'em.
Of course. They make the others look bad.
I have heard a story of how somebody got fired for this at a travel agency, apparently management spun a tale like "this person is not a team player".
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Given how aggressively MS advertises Edge on Win10, it would be understandable to mistake it for some part of the OS.
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Granted, they were gone after I said "no", but WTF?
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Given how aggressively MS advertises Edge on Win10, it would be understandable to mistake it for some part of the OS.
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Granted, they were gone after I said "no", but WTF?
They invoked my ire about 5 seconds after they started the presentation, and I killed it through the task manager after other methods failed, so I never got that far.
Was a bad idea anyway. Somehow they'd frozen up that entire monitor, and I had to restart windows to clear that. After which I just had to track down and eliminate the shortcut icons they'd scattered about.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Given how aggressively MS advertises Edge on Win10, it would be understandable to mistake it for some part of the OS.
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Granted, they were gone after I said "no", but WTF?
They invoked my ire about 5 seconds after they started the presentation, and I killed it through the task manager after other methods failed, so I never got that far.
Was a bad idea anyway. Somehow they'd frozen up that entire monitor, and I had to restart windows to clear that. After which I just had to track down and eliminate the shortcut icons they'd scattered about.
Presentation? What did I miss?!
They’ve really gone full rogue with their shit OS.
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@topspin A full-screen opener about a browser especially designed for windows 10. After a few seconds it switched to edge-with-an-overlay. I wasn't going to entertain that, and the close button was still disabled, so I task managered edge.
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I've got 1998 on the phone here; what should I tell them?
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"Trust me. Buy some Apple shares now."
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
"Trust me. Buy some Apple shares now."
https://youtu.be/VY88ybT13zQ?t=117
Edit: Wow that was from 2012? Kinda surprised I remembered this video...
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A hardware WTF.
My dust sucker (well, I know the "correct" English word is "vacuum cleaner", but I prefer the literal translation of German "Staubsauger" because dust suckers suck) could hardly suck in any dirt, was about to fail even with feathers.
So I took a closer look, and found the culprit:
You see the bend at the end of the hose? Not only a bend, the pipe gets narrower there too.
Some leafs of my plants got stuck there, then further dirt assembled, and eventually the pipe was clogged.What a great design decision by "dirt devil"!
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@BernieTheBernie Usually (certainly with leaves) you can hear such stoppages when they begin because the air rushing past the stuck leaves makes noise.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
the pipe gets narrower
That's the piece of poor design. Narrowings are often a cause for problems in systems with flowing fluids of all types.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
"Trust me. Buy some Apple shares now."
Meh. That's not a particularly good investment for another decade or so. In 1998? Buy Amazon.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
My dust sucker (well, I know the "correct" English word is "vacuum cleaner", but I prefer the literal translation of German "Staubsauger" because dust suckers suck) could hardly suck in any dirt, was about to fail even with feathers.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:
@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
"Trust me. Buy some Apple shares now."
Meh. That's not a particularly good investment for another decade or so. In 1998? Buy Amazon.
The most important advice at that time is not which tech fund to buy, but when to start selling them.
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The most important advice at that time is not which tech fund to buy, but when to start selling them
Why is it that "Wirecard" comes to my mind...
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
The most important advice at that time is not which tech fund to buy, but when to start selling them
Why is it that "Wirecard" comes to my mind...
If you've got any of that, well, better late than never.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
The most important advice at that time is not which tech fund to buy, but when to start selling them
Why is it that "Wirecard" comes to my mind...
If you've got any of that, well, better late than never.
He could try selling it as toilet paper, if the demand for that is still high.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
The most important advice at that time is not which tech fund to buy, but when to start selling them
Why is it that "Wirecard" comes to my mind...
If you've got any of that, well, better late than never.
He could try selling it as toilet paper, if the demand for that is still high.
Took this picture a couple weeks ago at my local Sam's Club:
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Roam Mobility, a service I've used a couple times while travelling to the US, announced a little while ago that they were shutting down. However, apparently this isn't stopping them from trying to get a couple bucks from me on their way out
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Given how aggressively MS advertises Edge on Win10, it would be understandable to mistake it for some part of the OS.
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Granted, they were gone after I said "no", but WTF?
Oh, I see what you're talking about now... Looks like an update that is randomly hitting. (So far, only 1 of the 3 machines I've run updates on today has done it.) Just went thru the whole wizard, cause you know it's going to keep coming back. (No, no, no, and still no. No sharing, no importing, etc/etc. And delete the damn desktop shortcut - if it's pinning, WTF are you putting another copy there???)
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Perl 7 Announced
Perl 7 basically amounts to Perl 5 with more modern defaults and foregoing some of the extensive backward compatibility support found with Perl 5.
Perl 7 succeeds Perl 5 due to the Perl 6 initiative previously for what is now known as the Raku programming language. So to avoid confusion, Perl 7 is the next version.
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I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Looks like you're not the only one: