WTF Bites
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Looks like you're not the only one:
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-edge-accused-of-sneakily-importing-firefox-data-on-windows-10-530338.shtmlIf you let the welcome finish, the bookmarks are not imported. Not sure why people are surprised that if you crash a program in the middle of setup, things get fucked up. (I don't disagree that the welcome process can go DIAFF.)
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
I was not happy to see my Firefox bookmarks in Edge while the prompt whether I wanted to import them had just popped up and was still open.
Looks like you're not the only one:
https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-edge-accused-of-sneakily-importing-firefox-data-on-windows-10-530338.shtmlIf you let the welcome finish, the bookmarks are not imported. Not sure why people are surprised that if you crash a program in the middle of setup, things get fucked up. (I don't disagree that the welcome process can go DIAFF.)
Well, more of the "why the fuck are they imported before it asks?"
I'd expect things to get fucked up by exiting the setup early, I wouldn't expect things to get imported...
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@sloosecannon said in WTF Bites:
Well, more of the "why the fuck are they imported before it asks?"
:UXDesigner: we need to show the user a preview of what it looks like. Just import them and undo that if the user says no.
I'd expect things to get fucked up by exiting the setup early, I wouldn't expect things to get imported...
:developer: I warned you...
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@sloosecannon said in WTF Bites:
Well, more of the "why the fuck are they imported before it asks?"
:UXDesigner: we need to show the user a preview of what it looks like. Just import them and undo that if the user says no.
I'd expect things to get fucked up by exiting the setup early, I wouldn't expect things to get imported...
:developer: I warned you...
I'm guessing it's to accidentally send data back to the mothership.
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Perl 7 Announced
Perl 7 basically amounts to Perl 5 with more modern defaults and foregoing some of the extensive backward compatibility support found with Perl 5.
Perl 7 succeeds Perl 5 due to the Perl 6 initiative previously for what is now known as the Raku programming language. So to avoid confusion, Perl 7 is the next version.
Perl 7 renamed to <shakes Boggle dice> Klep, and Perl 8 initiative launches.
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status: logged into the jump box at my mom's. It was taking a while longer than normal.
Ah. That would explain things...
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@El_Heffe and nobody will use it because of how cool Raku is.
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@Zerosquare's TFA said:
I would be pretty offended if someone referred to me as a "free" user just because I don't want to subscribe to Music Premium. I paid good money for plenty of music from all over the Web. I've paid hundreds of dollars for Google Home speakers, which (for the normal "medium" size) are $130 a pop.
Shorter version: I want to use a service, but I don't want to pay for it. They expect me to pay, and I'm offended.
You suck at economics thread is
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
play my music
I'm pretty sure it's a Chromecast compatible device, and you can play local shit just fine with an App...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
local
What is this local thing you speak of, gramps?
It's like your house, but digital!
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@Tsaukpaetra Figures you'd talk in your old-timey speak, gramps. You're so funny when you do that.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF Bites:
Shorter version: I want to use a service, but I don't want to pay for it. They expect me to pay, and I'm offended.
According to the article, one of the major features of those connected speakers was that the "streaming the music you own" part was free. Until Google changed their tune and started charging $10/month for this feature.
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@Zerosquare You still can. Set up a DLNA server and get a DLNA client that supports Cast, then Cast to the speakers. There are a million free options for each of these.
What you can no longer do is use Google Music as the DLNA server.
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Perl 7 Announced
Perl 7 basically amounts to Perl 5 with more modern defaults and foregoing some of the extensive backward compatibility support found with Perl 5.
Perl 7 succeeds Perl 5 due to the Perl 6 initiative previously for what is now known as the Raku programming language. So to avoid confusion, Perl 7 is the next version.
In all seriousness, this is one of the least WTF-worthy news I've heard all month long. Their efforts to make better Perl 5 absolutely makes sense, and since Perl 6 has actually been a thing used by many people, making another Perl 6 that's radically different from the previous one would cause way more confusion.
Think of Windows 10. They chose to skip 9 because they found out Java Runtime Environment and other corporate behemoths employ a check for whether the system name starts with "Windows 9" to enable some very outdated legacy behavior that would break everything. This is a very good rationale for skipping a number and I would do the same in their situation. And Perl has even stronger reason because the number 6 was already taken.
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They chose to skip 9 because they found out Java Runtime Environment and other corporate behemoths employ a check for whether the system name starts with "Windows 9" to enable some very outdated legacy behavior that would break everything.
No. They had to skip 9 because of the "every other one" rule, since otherwise they'd have needed to make Windows 9 not suck. And that was out of the question
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@El_Heffe and nobody will use it because of how cool Raku is.
Raku is Perl 6.
Raku is cool.One of these statements must be false, because if both were true, that would imply that Perl is cool, but that's impossible.
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@HardwareGeek Perl is cool all right. Raku is not though. It's like when the dog and the cat made the cake.
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It's like when the dog and the cat made the cake.
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@Gąska Yes, those ones.
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when the dog and the cat made the cake.
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@anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:
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The second letter in WCF is misspelled. Actually, it ought to be a T.
Cannot have two operations in the same contract with the same name, methods Blah and Blah in type Blub.ILaber violate this rule. You can change the name of one of the operations by changing the method name or by using the Name property of OperationContractAttribute.
Oh great. I remember. There's no function overloading available in WTF. You cannot have both Blah() and Blah(double blah).
But still, it compiles. WTF only at run-time.
Congrats, Microsoft.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
There's no function overloading available in WTF. You cannot have both
Blah()
andBlah(double blah)
.That's because it is interoperating with systems that don't do overloading, or do overloading on an entirely different basis.
But still, it compiles. WTF only at run-time.
So you need a tool as part of the build to verify that a correct set of service descriptors can be built. Such tools are a very useful part of any larger CI workflow.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Oh great. I remember. There's no function overloading available in WTF. You cannot have both Blah() and Blah(double blah).
But still, it compiles. WTF only at run-time.
Congrats, Microsoft.There are many WTFs in WCF, but these ones seem to be minor. Try setting up SOAP over HTTP/S and plain HTTP some time...
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My KVM has been acting up a lot recently (monitors randomly not displaying anything for a fraction of a second to indefinitely). Shutting it down and restarting has seemed to help but this morning is was seriously fucked. Then it occurred to me that maybe the monitors were the issue so I shut them down and restarted them and so far everything seems chill.
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
My KVM has been acting up a lot recently (monitors randomly not displaying anything for a fraction of a second to indefinitely). Shutting it down and restarting has seemed to help but this morning is was seriously fucked. Then it occurred to me that maybe the monitors were the issue so I shut them down and restarted them and so far everything seems chill.
LOLNOPE. Looks like it's time to find a replacement. :sigh:
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There are many WTFs in WCF
Agree. Worse than that minor glitch is the violation of Liskov substitution. That causes much more effort.
And of course, backchannels, exceptions, ...
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When I shut down my computer yesterday, nothing was unusual. But when I started it today...
It was the first time that I saw the "Systemstartreparatur" (system startup repair). Never seen that before. After a quarter of an hour, it decided that it cannot repair my computer. Great.
It allowed me to try to restart it in order to run some bios checks. And now suddenly the computer complained that it cannot determine the voltage of the power adapter...
I did not run all bios checks, they showed up now problem.
OK, let's try another restart. Windows greeted me with the message that the last shutdown was unclean. Do you want to start in safe mode? No, I just started it in normal mode.And it worked.
Not fully: the system tray showed some driver installation. WTF? For a thumb drive. Then brought up a failure message, showing the device name starting with a couple of non-typable characters.
I removed the thumb drive and placed it into an other USB port. Worked fine. USB port broken? I placed it back into the previous port. Works.
And now? What will come next?
How long will it take to see the Bitcoin wallet address to be filled up with some shitcoins worth a couple of $100?
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@Zerosquare have they become ex-Intel engineer before or after saying that?
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Another day with Tizen, another WTF.
We ported our app to another, slightly older TV. It sort-of worked, except the remote control buttons. Of course there was no error, it's just that no 'keydown' events were triggered. Suspecting some holes in implementation, we plugged in a USB keyboard. Same - nothing happens. Turns out that the app window (which covers full screen) starts out of focus. To use the remote, you must first hook up a mouse and click on the screen to focus the window.
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@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
out of focus
What the fuck does that even mean in an OS that has only the main window and maybe some dialogs?!
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@Tsaukpaetra it means you can't even visually detect if something is wrong!
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Status: Visual Studio stop being stupid!
Edit: Nevermind, I'm being stupid. Grrr...!
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
[ZDNet Autoplaying video]
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Visual Studio stop being stupid!
Why are there two
JsonObjectAttribute
instances when you can instantiate it with both properties once? Fucking hell!
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@TwelveBaud said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Visual Studio stop being stupid!
Why are there two
JsonObjectAttribute
instances when you can instantiate it with both properties once? Fucking hell!Actually you can't because one of them isn't a property on it. Casually cruising the interwebs made me believe incorrectly.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
out of focus
What the fuck does that even mean in an OS that has only the main window and maybe some dialogs?!
Its good ol' X11 under the hood. Unfortunately, the hood is locked, unless you have a passport in Korean.
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@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
out of focus
What the fuck does that even mean in an OS that has only the main window and maybe some dialogs?!
Its good ol' X11 under the hood.
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@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@sebastian-galczynski said in WTF Bites:
out of focus
What the fuck does that even mean in an OS that has only the main window and maybe some dialogs?!
Its good ol' X11 under the hood. Unfortunately, the hood is locked, unless you have a passport in Korean.
Oh, nice to see that Tizen hasn't changed since the last time I looked at it (and laughed. Heartily)
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My favorite feature of the windows CLI terminal is how any incidental click or drag will send you into "highlighting" mode to copy. If you don't exit highlighting mode by clicking again or making a copy - which might happen if you didn't intend to enter highlighting mode - then it freezes all terminal output.
It does not just buffer that output for later printing. No, all threads trying to write to stdout or stderr will block and hang until you exit highlighting mode.
This happens to me way too much running my node apps.
Edit:
I am, apparently,
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@error Yes, sometimes I abuse that "feature"...
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@error That used to not be the default. One of the first things I set with a new system.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@error Yes, sometimes I abuse that "feature"...
Heavy-handed pre-emptive multitasking? When I've got two terminal processes squabbling over who gets to use the spinny metal thing I use it to make them take turns.
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My favorite feature of the windows CLI terminal is how any incidental click or drag will send you into "highlighting" mode to copy. If you don't exit highlighting mode by clicking again or making a copy - which might happen if you didn't intend to enter highlighting mode - then it freezes all terminal output.
It does not just buffer that output for later printing. No, all threads trying to write to stdout or stderr will block and hang until you exit highlighting mode.
This happens to me way too much running my node apps.
When you think about it, it's the best they could've done for the case when you do intend to copy the output. I've found myself many times in a situation where I wanted to save some error but I couldn't scroll and highlight it quick enough before it fell out the top of the buffer.