WTF Bites
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¹ There probably is a weird language somewhere that writes the same word differently based on its position in the sentence, but it isn't any of the Indo-European family.
The other way round. Japanese uses Chinese characters ("kanji") which are logograms (i.e. they denote meanings, not pronunciation). They are sometimes pronounced like Japanese words with that meaning, sometimes based on their Chinese pronunciation. E.g. the character for "mountain" 山 can be pronounced as "yama" (Japanese) or "san" (Chinese). Oh by the way, it is "Fujisan", not "Fujiyama".
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@BernieTheBernie I know Japanese has way too many ways to write things. However, it is still independent of the structure of the sentence, isn't it?
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Off the to of my head I can't come up with a completely ambiguous example but it should be possible.
"Read it."
Without context, it's impossible to disambiguate. Does it mean "[You must] read it" or "[I already] read it"?
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You only order and inflect the words the same way if you happen to have picked the right spelling, otherwise you just end up with something plain wrong.
You order and inflext the words the same way if you happen to have picked the right word. Homographs (and homophones) are still different words.
True, that's the better wording as it works both ways: it's the selection of words that's difficult. Obviously many native speakers are not aware that "your" and "you're" are different words, not in their everyday consciousness anyway, and I said stuff like /li:d paip/ for quite a while when learning English because I'd read the noun "lead" a couple of times but never heard anyone say it. That there is no bijection between spoken and written language makes us pick the wrong word in a given context. Spanish has far fewer of these snags, Turkish or Lao hardly any.
And then there's the gazillion of phrasal verbs of course, where English also blends syntax and word formation more than related languages.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
Off the to of my head I can't come up with a completely ambiguous example but it should be possible.
"Read it."
Without context, it's impossible to disambiguate. Does it mean "[You must] read it" or "[I already] read it"?
Oh, sure. "Take the lead" would do, too -- "be the guide" or "not the cadmium".
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In today's installment of "Why shit in the UI should not just jump around and reorder itself" we have a situation where right as I went to restart some new wifi equipment (which is currently only being used by us as we deploy it) shit jumped around in the UI and instead I restarted the primary switch that everything in the entire building feeds in to and knocked the entire network offline for about two minutes.
Goddamn it I hate that shit.
Now I am using another part of the UI to make sure it doesn't happen again. I selected "Wireless only" to display. But shit like that should not happen. Don't reorder shit as users are interacting with it.
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@Polygeekery
It's not the developer's fault you're using it in the real world and not in their lab conditions where the AJAX requests came back in <1ms.
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@izzion want to hear the next ?
So Ubiquiti's shit is pretty intelligent and self-healing, right?
We have 17 APs to deploy. Normally I would just hook up a shit ton of cables to a PoE switch and hook up as many as I could juggle at a time in order to join them to a controller and upgrade firmware and such. But Ubiquiti's shit appears to be so intelligent and self-healing that only ~4 of them will be online in such close proximity at a time. The rest of them appear to just go dark and shut themselves down so they are not competing for spectrum.
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The OBS configuration wizard settings confirmation:
Uh, yeah, I can read that perfectly fine...
Also, as a bonus the first attempts at uploading this screenshot got me this error:
Helpful!
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In the "In other news today..." thread:
@topspin, I'm on to your time traveling habits. I cannot with good conscience stay quiet in the face of such blatant disregard for causality.
I don't remember replying to that post. (It was a reply to @Polygeekery's post that got Lubar'd and apparently the post id got recycled).
Always in motion is the future. Predict it I cannot.
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@frillunflop said in WTF Bites:
So, for my current job we are using VS Code...
Right now, when I use Ctrl-C (intending to copy something), I get an error message:
command 'multiclip.copy' not found
Of course, cut and paste are also broken...
Just... erm... how does an editor even manage to break copy/paste?Javascript for the Win! errr...
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(It was a reply to @Polygeekery's post that got Lubar'd and apparently the post id got recycled).
So the posts got Lubar'd but not the associated data like reply-to IDs?
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
(It was a reply to @Polygeekery's post that got Lubar'd and apparently the post id got recycled).
So the posts got Lubar'd but not the associated data like reply-to IDs?
No, the associated data got Lubar’d too. I just still had the composer open (after the forum came back online) with the reply after the purge, so it posted a reply-to link with no longer existing data.
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@topspin That makes much more sense.
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I just still had the composer open (after the forum came back online) with the reply after the purge, so it posted a reply-to link with no longer existing data.
Wait. If that worked, wouldn't that mean that doesn't verify this serverside? So, anybody could essentially just craft replies to future posts at will?
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
@topspin That makes much more nonsense.
It makes much more sense. It's still silly, but it makes more sense than the weird part-Lubar'ing.
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I just still had the composer open (after the forum came back online) with the reply after the purge, so it posted a reply-to link with no longer existing data.
Wait. If that worked, wouldn't that mean that doesn't verify this serverside? So, anybody could essentially just craft replies to future posts at will?
I think we might have proven this before, as well as triggering notifications on posts in inaccessible (to non-moderators) areas.
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@loopback0 Test
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@loopback0 You broke it
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
shit jumped around in the UI
Maybe you should stop drinking in the morning then.
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
shit jumped around in the UI
Maybe you should stop drinking in the morning then.
You shut your dirty whore mouth! Heretic!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
restarted
Why is restarting a device a one-click operation?
Well, it isn't. But when you work with something long enough you tend to just do the next click autonomously and then realize what went wrong when it is too late.
Yes. I know. I may not be TR on this one but I am certainly a contributing .
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@Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:
shit jumped around in the UI
Maybe you should stop drinking in the morning then.
Depends on your timezone. It's always past five PM somewhere.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@loopback0 You broke it
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happened here?
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Found this while using Browsershots
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The OBS configuration wizard settings confirmation:
Uh, yeah, I can read that perfectly fine...
That's the child protection filter filtering what is obviously some smut aubout sluts. When your pattern recognition is sufficiently trained to read it anyway, you're deemed old enough.
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
1L<<63
. I'm having a hard time reconstructing the sequence of unsigned/signed confusion and over-/underflow fuckup you'd need to get that in a percentage calculation.Negative double precision zero cast to 64-bit int?
Possible, but it would get even weirder results if it wasn't a zero, so basically all the time.
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That guy should be banned from the internet. In Debian
python
meanspython2
and should keep meaning that. Everybody using Python 3 can saypython3
.I'm looking forward to the time, maybe sometime early next year, when someone announces that they've found a major security exploit for Python 2, and the Python developers say they don't care about fixing it at all as all supported versions of Python 3 are immune. The screaming from people who should know better and who have had a lot of years of warning, that screaming will be glorious...
(I know of people still insisting on using code that's been out of support for 20 years.)
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@frillunflop said in WTF Bites:
So, for my current job we are using VS Code...
Right now, when I use Ctrl-C (intending to copy something), I get an error message:
command 'multiclip.copy' not found
Of course, cut and paste are also broken...
Just... erm... how does an editor even manage to break copy/paste?Zombie Clippy. He cometh.
Edit: the internet already has illustrations for whatever weird shit you come up with (Rule 33.9984851)
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(I know of people still insisting on using code that's been out of support for 20 years.)
Worse, that's often code handling large amounts of money.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
happened here?
Font's broken. A force reload might work, or maybe the font rendering engine needs to restart (which could be anything from reloading the tab to rebooting the OS). Purging a broken font can be a bit tricky...
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(I know of people still insisting on using code that's been out of support for 20 years.)
Worse, that's often code handling large amounts of money.
Even worse, that code is often handling your internet routing!
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(I know of people still insisting on using code that's been out of support for 20 years.)
Worse, that's often code handling large amounts of money.
Even worse, that code is often handling your internet routing!
As long as my porn collection doesn't rely on it I'm not too worried.
The latest release is version 6b of 27-Mar-1998. This is a stable and solid foundation for many application's JPEG support.
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@dkf why anybody would still be intentionally using Python2 is beyond me.
MacOS seems to still be shipping Python 2.7 only.
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@topspin MacOS has outdated versions of pretty much every system utility. I compared a couple utilities with a Linux install and they could even be a major version behind. I could compare a few when at work to see if it's still true.
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@Atazhaia I think they mostly ship BSD utils, too, so comparing with Linux might be a bit hard. But I don’t really care what version of grep or whatever they ship, whereas with Python (or bash, which is also ancient) it actually makes a difference.
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@levicki said in WTF Bites:
Negative? double. precision? zero!
How I read it.
While on the subject of the ambiguity of English: that's "read" as in "read", not "read".
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
happened here?
Font's broken. A force reload might work, or maybe the font rendering engine needs to restart (which could be anything from reloading the tab to rebooting the OS). Purging a broken font can be a bit tricky...
Yeah a refresh fixed it.
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I compared a couple utilities with a Linux install
Linux does not have any utilities. Linux is just a kernel </>
Did you compare against some hotshot distribution like Arch or Gentoo or against actually corresponding GNU/Linux install? RHEL (or CentOS) 6 is still supported… (and the company some colleagues are contracting for still has a bunch of them in production…. even for new deployments)?
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I compared a couple utilities with a Linux install
Linux does not have any utilities. Linux is just a kernel </>
Really? Let's ask the authors:
The Linux kernel is the largest component of the Linux operating system
Linux has since become the world’s most dominant operating system
It is also the operating system of choice to support cutting-edge technologies
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I compared a couple utilities with a Linux install
Linux does not have any utilities. Linux is just a kernel </>
Really? Let's ask the authors:
Holy mother of fork(), blockchain and IoS in the first sentence of the Linunx Foundation's explanation of what Linux is?
I'm going to buy a pencil and a rotary phone
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Holy mother of fork(), blockchain and IoS in the first sentence of the Linunx Foundation's explanation of what Linux is?
I guess Code of Conduct wasn't the only document non-techies wrote for them.
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The Linux kernel is the largest component of the GNU/Linux operating system
FTFY
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@Gąska To be fair, Linux (the kernel) is already much more of an OS than "GNU" is.
Holy mother of fork(), blockchain and IoS in the first sentence of the Linunx Foundation's explanation of what Linux is?
I'm going to buy a pencil and a rotary phoneYeah, I subscribed to their newsletter a while back when I thought I wanted to be a Lunix sysadmin. Their constant stream of enterprisy buzzwords into my mailbox made me lose a lot of faith in them.