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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
Copyright licenses can be revoked; that's how they work. Hell, the GPL has clauses dictating certain cases where the license gets automatically revoked.
That's legally OK; those triggers are described in the license. Coming along after the fact and imposing significant extra restrictions (which withdrawing a license most certainly would do) for reasons that you've given no hint about doing that with previously, and additionally impacting on downstream people who have nothing to do with this whole argument, that's not going to fly with courts. The reasoning is simple too: it's going back on your freely-given publicly-made promises. Don't ever do that if you want to win court cases, OK?
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@Cursorkeys said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
Because this license says without restriction ...subject to the following conditions. Revoking those rights post facto is horrible.
Yes, it's pretty horrible but still allowed. I'd argue that these neo-McCarthyites need stopping at any cost, this might just be that cost.
Well, there's also the political problem of wanting to restrict Green Cards for legal residents in the US if they ever used some kind of governmental supportive service in the past.
While we're talking about post facto and all.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
Copyright licenses can be revoked; that's how they work. Hell, the GPL has clauses dictating certain cases where the license gets automatically revoked.
That's legally OK; those triggers are described in the license. Coming along after the fact and imposing significant extra restrictions (which withdrawing a license most certainly would do) for reasons that you've given no hint about doing that with previously, and additionally impacting on downstream people who have nothing to do with this whole argument, that's not going to fly with courts. The reasoning is simple too: it's going back on your freely-given publicly-made promises. Don't ever do that if you want to win court cases, OK?
Withdrawing a license isn't imposing significant extra restrictions. Those restrictions are on the license. You don't have a license anymore. Just but people really need to stop mixing up legal statuses.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
Copyright licenses can be revoked; that's how they work. Hell, the GPL has clauses dictating certain cases where the license gets automatically revoked.
That's legally OK; those triggers are described in the license. Coming along after the fact and imposing significant extra restrictions (which withdrawing a license most certainly would do) for reasons that you've given no hint about doing that with previously, and additionally impacting on downstream people who have nothing to do with this whole argument, that's not going to fly with courts. The reasoning is simple too: it's going back on your freely-given publicly-made promises. Don't ever do that if you want to win court cases, OK?
Withdrawing a license isn't imposing significant extra restrictions. Those restrictions are on the license. You don't have a license anymore. Just but people really need to stop mixing up legal statuses.
You can't change the rules after the fact (except in ways you've made specific provision for in the rules, which is fairly restricted in OSS licenses). That's a massive legal principle of everywhere that considers itself to be a free society. The license in use by a copy of the software at the time a user acquires it adheres to the software. If that grants the right to make and redistribute arbitrary numbers of copies, you can't take that away. If that license allows derivative works, you can't take that away either. With both sets of rights, you cannot stop someone forking the software at that specific version (though they might need to change the name to satisfy trademark law and might need to be careful to avoid patents; those have different laws). You can refuse personally to make further copies, you can take down the site you distribute them from, but you cannot change what you have done in the past.
Software is not just a “living” thing. It is also a collection of identified specific works, and those are what copyright protects.
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@dkf Apparently that was the way Groklaw's lawyer interpreted the GPL 2 in 2008 as well when someone wanted to try the rescinding trick.
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
Seems they work at the usual speed?
Royal Mail said it had handled about 30 crisp packets so far.
One of the boffins:
"The old alternative was paper or plastic laminated to aluminium foil, usually coated on the inside with a plastic layer for heat-sealing. This structure would also not be accepted for recycling in most cases, is much heavier, and will have greater overall environmental impacts, for a variety of reasons, so it would not be an improvement."
Now the only thing we're missing is the politicians stepping in, saying they'll make a law which forbids wasteful plastic and stale chips, because that'll surely fix the problem.
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
Also, don't google "pasties" at work.
I did the google search at home. The images I got were overwhelmingly of the meat and veggies surrounded by pastry type with only a handful () of the nipple-covering type. I even have safe search turned off. I must be doing it wrong.
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@antiquarian Cornish pasties could be used to cover nipples, but it might be advisable to let them cool down after cooking first.
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Millennials
https://www.oaoa.com/news/business/bbb_column/article_7bc8ca00-ae1c-11e8-9f75-ef5e5dd9f602.html
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Millenials
You left out an N. (Sheesh, you people who don't think the Y2K problem was real don't even realize it's still going on!)
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
@JBert Don't forget that we love a stupid tax
Also, don't google "pasties" at work.
I live a sheltered Internet...
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Millenials
You left out an N. (Sheesh, you people who don't think the Y2K problem was real don't even realize it's still going on!)
That's because it's derived from Latin "annus", not "anus", but in this case confusing the two is a ven
erial sin.
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Hensley said boys would be unhappy with the rule, but that he "had" to make it.
"And if you want to blame someone, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin anything," Hensley continued. "They ruin the dress code, well -- ask Adam. Look at Eve. That's really all you got to get to. You can go back to the beginning of time.
"So, it'll be like that for the rest of your life; get used to it, keep your mouth shut, suck it up and follow the rules."
Filed under: Not the Onion
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
Also, don't google "pasties" at work.
Filed under: smashing pasties
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
And if you want to blame someone, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin anything," Hensley continued. "They ruin the dress code, well -- ask Adam. Look at Eve. That's really all you got to get to. You can go back to the beginning of time.
"So, it'll be like that for the rest of your life; get used to it, keep your mouth shut, suck it up and follow the rules."It's good advice, though. Lots of panty wadding going on here:
But still nothing about the origin of the controversy. Like, did some girls complain? Were they wearing Daisy Dukes or something?
Filed Under: Journalism is dead
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
And if you want to blame someone, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin anything," Hensley continued. "They ruin the dress code, well -- ask Adam. Look at Eve. That's really all you got to get to. You can go back to the beginning of time.
"So, it'll be like that for the rest of your life; get used to it, keep your mouth shut, suck it up and follow the rules."It's good advice, though. Lots of panty wadding going on here:
But still nothing about the origin of the controversy. Like, did some girls complain? Were they wearing Daisy Dukes or something?
Filed Under: Journalism is dead
I didn't WTFV but it sounds like he was inappropriate. I'm sure the complaints are extremely hyperbolic but still.
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@boomzilla
The most #MeToo explaination would be that the numbnuts in chief got really turned on by girls walking around in athletic shorts, made a pass at one of them, and got threatened with getting reported to the cops.Which actually seems moderately feasible as I type it out, sadly.
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@antiquarian said in In other news today...:
I did the google search at home. The images I got were overwhelmingly of the meat and veggies surrounded by pastry type with only a handful () of the nipple-covering type.
Any more would've been a waste.
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla
The most #MeToo explaination would be that the numbnuts in chief got really turned on by girls walking around in athletic shorts, made a pass at one of them, and got threatened with getting reported to the cops.Which actually seems moderately feasible as I type it out, sadly.
It happens more often than you'd probably guess. A lot of places have laws specifically against teacher/student relationships, because high school students are otherwise of legal age at some point in their enrollment (the age of consent ranges between 16-18 in the US, tending toward the lower end of those numbers; even at 18, however, many students will have their 18th birthday before they graduate).
'course, I bet you'd probably find a pretty significant gender gap between the punishments for male and female teachers who got caught breaking those laws.
And the laws themselves can vary quite a lot, since it's up to the state to decide whether it applies to teachers and students only at the same school, or in the same school district, the same state, or even anywhere. And typically other authority figures would also be included in the law -- a parole officer for example.
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@izzion said in In other news today...:
And if you want to blame someone, blame the girls, because they pretty much ruin anything," Hensley continued. "They ruin the dress code, well -- ask Adam. Look at Eve. That's really all you got to get to. You can go back to the beginning of time.
"So, it'll be like that for the rest of your life; get used to it, keep your mouth shut, suck it up and follow the rules."It's good advice, though. Lots of panty wadding going on here:
But still nothing about the origin of the controversy. Like, did some girls complain? Were they wearing Daisy Dukes or something?
Filed Under: Journalism is dead
I didn't WTFV but it sounds like he was inappropriate. I'm sure the complaints are extremely hyperbolic but still.
He definitely shouldn't have said what he said. A lot of good advice is inappropriate to say in many situations. I'm sure there's a fair amount of back story that no one who just watches a viral video sees and the reporters who collected social media reactions didn't bother finding out what happened here (at least in the story linked from ESPN).
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@anotherusername would teachers at another school have to do with anything? They're not in a position of authority over the student in question.
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@pie_flavor Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they are worried about school employees transferring to a different school/district so they could date a former student at their old school, or employees who could have regular interaction with students from other schools e.g. for sporting events. Or maybe it's just that people think "they should not be screwing anyone of the same age as the students they're teaching" and made the law as broad as possible to try to outlaw it. People tend to do weird things when they're faced with the fact that adults teaching 16-18 year old teenagers might actually be attracted to some of them and that might otherwise be legal if we don't do something immediately to make sure it's not.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Those studies, however, left some dangling questions
effectively cauterised
Vestigial medicine
Doctor, please help, this article is too punful.
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@JBert It's a Beth Mole article. What did you expect?
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@dkf Less so "your welcome".
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@boomzilla I really want to eat a cow now.
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one passerby taking to social media to accuse the butcher of alienating potential customers.
I don't think many vegans are potential customers of a butcher.
make the connection between the dead cow being sold at the butcher's shop and the sentient, living being he or she once was.
It was a cow (or more likely a steer); it was never sentient. Alive, yes. Intelligent, somewhat. Sentient, no.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
It was a cow (or more likely a steer); it was never sentient. Alive, yes. Intelligent, somewhat. Sentient, no.
Um, WTF?!
I'm just an ESL speaker but my dictionary must have a different definition than yours.
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@topspin Thank you. I have just discovered that for many years I have been using a very restrictive definition, specifically, the one used in science fiction to denote reason and self-awareness in AIs. The original and more general definition is indeed a lower from of existence than self-awareness and reason, and animals are generally considered sentient, although there are some philosophers who argue that they are not.
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US Congress has been banned from Wikipedia:
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
I like that guy's attitude.
He's an asshole. I do eat meat but probably wouldn't buy his.
Just that instead of having a cow about it I'd go and replace the text with "we have the dog that's been shitting on your pavement".
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@mott555 said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla I really want to eat a cow now.
I ate a chiken instead.
The vegans told me to.
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Den Surgeøn Generål wårns: Windows Update is known in the state of Norway to cause prolonged unconsciousness.
Of course TRWTF is having a permanently online Windows in this setting in the first place.
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@masonwheeler said in In other news today...:
That just get weirder and more suspect the further you read, especially the fake emails. I'd put money on it being 100% fabricated.
I'm waiting for the first superconductor that will work with a single-stage Peltier (~240K), that will be a revolution.
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@LaoC said in In other news today...:
He's an asshole.
Yes, but he probably wouldn't bother putting such a sign out if other assholes hadn't already been pestering him for selling meat (despite that being literally his business).
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@LaoC said in In other news today...:
He's an asshole.
Yes, but he probably wouldn't bother putting such a sign out if other assholes hadn't already been pestering him for selling meat (despite that being literally his business).
Maybe, as was the case with that restaurant owner a while ago, he did have a point. TBH the article didn't sound like it though.
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UEFI, the gift that keeps on giving.
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@LaoC said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
I like that guy's attitude.
He's an asshole. I do eat meat but probably wouldn't buy his.
Just that instead of having a cow about it I'd go and replace the text with "we have the dog that's been shitting on your pavement".Not all heroes wear capes.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
But what about the antibiotics resistance crisis? Shouldn't we still be removing appendixes so as to avoid using antibiotics?
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@Tsaukpaetra The chiken can be dessert after I eat my cow.