:baby_symbol: Parenting advice - you're gonna get hit
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You should simulate artillery strikes while they're sleeping, so they'll be prepared for WWIII also.
We used to do SingStar when they were younger so they have already experienced the worst noises humanity is capable of making.
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You should simulate artillery strikes while they're sleeping, so they'll be prepared for WWIII also.
Sarcastically says the man who is not a parent. It was actually a really good bit of advice. Our kids will sleep through anything. We have friends who tiptoe around their houses like they are burglars while their kids nap. Fuck that. Get them used to noise.
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Sarcastically says the man who is not a parent
Hey! That's not fair! He's just experiencing it from the other perspective.
Addendum to the noise discussion: For the record, once the kids actually slept we were so knackered that "normal noise" consisted of us making & drinking coffee, and turning the pages in a book. We found it easier to do all the household chores and everything else while the kids were awake and involve them in it instead.
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I can't help but to think that with all the advice in this thread, if @Jaloopa tries to implement all of them he's going to spend a lot of time sleeping on the sofa.
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I spend a lot of time sleeping on the sofa anyway. With a wife who hons the bed, a newborn that won't sleep in his bassinet and a 4 year old that comes to our bedroom lots of nights between 3-4am...it is just easier. I would rather fight the dogs for space than try to shoehorn myself in there.
Kids sleep like cats do. A little kitten expands out to cover a large area when they sleep, kids do the same.
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Our eldest daughter used to come in every night like tkat. For the youngest, we bought her a bed big enough for her and a parent to sleep comfortably in, so when she comes in at 3-4, one of us goes over and sleeps in her bed. Usually, you can sneak away after half an hour or so. ..She rarely comes over anymore since all she gains is a more crammed-up bed.
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Yeah, we did this as well. When they're little they'll sleep through a fair bit of noise if they're used to it.
The week after youngest was born they started removing our alley - via jackhammer...
She slept through that... but didn't sleep through the night for a very long time.
(I won't get into a contest about how long... Jaloopa must not be made too afraid.)
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It's call a joke, you dumbass.
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Is this where I tell you to get the fuck out of my thread?
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@Polygeekery said:
Yeah, it is not a huge concern though. The slightest of precautions prevents them from hurting themselves. If we were too delicate, we would not have survived.
Maybe but when they're in the bobble-headed phase, it feels like their heads will just fall off if given half a chance.
I hate when that happens.
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It's call a joke, you dumbass.
So was this, jackass:
There's a store near you that has a marketing person who should have their fingernails ripped off with a pair of rusty pliers.
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There's a store near you that has a marketing person who should have their fingernails ripped off with a pair of rusty pliers.
lol. That's funny.
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A little kitten expands out to cover a large area when they sleep, kids do the same.
Our eldest was the worst with this, once she grew a bit. She'd get herself ensconced in between us, then wriggle around sideways and try to push us both out of bed at once by stretching out. I'd quite often wake up to find myself lying on my side, perched precariously on the very edge of the mattress, with feet pressing into my back.On the other hand the youngest was the worst in terms of how long she continued to come into our bed (in fact she still does occasionally). The older two each stopped shortly after the next sibling down was born, but she didn't have to deal with crying baby competition so she had much less incentive to stop.
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I'd quite often wake up to find myself lying on my side, perched precariously on the very edge of the mattress, with feet pressing into my back.
Get the kids into full-size beds as soon as you can. Like that, you can always go and sleep there. As a bonus, you can use normal sized bedding and you can sell it to the kids as “you've now got a big girl's/boy's bed” which tends to be viewed as a positive.
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We never had toddler beds for either of our kids. IIRC, my daughter went straight from crib to full-sized (double) heirloom Jenny Lind bed from my grandmother. My son's room was a little smaller, so he went from crib to bunk bed.
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We never had toddler beds for either of our kids. IIRC, my daughter went straight from crib to full-sized (double)
Here! Here!
When we moved my daughter from crib to bed it was unintentional a two-day process. We had the mattress, but hadn't assembled the bed, so we plopped her onto the mattress for that night...
And she rolled off onto the floor.
After that, she's never fallen out of bed.
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Get the kids into full-size beds as soon as you can. Like that, you can always go and sleep there
and be late to work because your alarm is in a different room.
This was when she was in a full-size bed. But AFAIC the main point is to avoid having to get up in the middle of the night. If I'm going to be going into their room anyway, I may as well carry them there and put them back in their own bed.
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And she rolled off onto the floor.
When we converted my son's crib to a toddler bed, I told my wife it would be a rough night. He always slept leaning on the railing of his crib. Sure enough, we got him to sleep and put a bunch of pillows on the floor beside his bed and several times through the night I heard a THUMP and then crying. It never hurt him, just scared him pretty good.
After that night was over, he has been good to go.
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several times
Quick learner, huh? ;)
Was this before after he was old enough to climb out on his own?
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Well after that point. He would sleep leaning against the railing that we removed to turn it in to a toddler bed, so force of (sleep) habit caused issues.
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50 posts were split to a new topic: In which FrostCat brags about the alarm on his phone again
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And she rolled off onto the floor.
We heard of the trick of putting a pool noodle under the mattress on the open side(s). Just to discourage the roll off manoeuvre. Think we did it for the first but didn't bother for the second.
This is a recurrent theme for people with multiple children.
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This is a recurrent theme for people with multiple children.
Yeah. Kind of a "We have spares now, it's alright." train of thought.
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@RTapeLoadingError said:
This is a recurrent theme for people with multiple children.
Yeah. Kind of a "We have spares now, it's alright." train of thought.
Also, "what's the worst that can happen in this case?.. HAH! I've already seen worse than that....I'm too tired to get riled about piddling nonsense."
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Really it's mainly that once you have experience with the first kid, you have a better sense of which things are dangerous / important enough to be worth worrying about and which ones aren't. And you have more confidence that you know what you're doing, so you stress out less about it.
Exhaustion is also a factor though.
(I'm not sure that image is what I would have chosen for "tired_face", but whatever.)
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Advice from a non-parent: AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC PLACES.
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Advice from a non-parent: AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC PLACES.
Also, if not everyone in vicinity is a (preferably newly made) parent, please refrain from yapping about your kid.
You haven't seen hell until you've been forced to sit at a family gathering with two mothers exchanging the tips on dealing with shitty diapers while the kids run amok.
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Where is the fun in that? They freak me out in my house so why am I not allowed to share that experience with others?
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Advice from a non-parent: AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC PLACES.
Easier said than done. Especially if you want to avoid looking like a raving lunatic.
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That's why I said to at least attempt it.
It's less annoying when the parent tries to stop them, but the kid carries on anyway.
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A local card shop has a similar one that says they will be taught MTG.
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Easier said than done. Especially if you want to avoid looking like a raving lunatic.
And there are few things in this world more comforting than when your kid is losing their shit in public and someone comes up to you and says, "I went through the same thing yesterday, I empathize".
It lets you know that you are not alone.
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Easier said than done. Especially if you want to avoid looking like a raving lunatic.
I every time I'm at a pricey restaurant and some couple has brought their two-year-old and gets embarrassed when the kid starts making noise. That's what two-year-olds do, people, why is this news to you ETA: If you don't like it, hire a damn babysitter next time, kthxbye!
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Easier said than done. Especially if you want to avoid looking like
a raving lunaticyou're abusing your child.It's easy for calm, rational attempts to control a young child, especially if done with sufficient vigor to be effective, to look abusive to a third party, especially if the third party has never had the experience of an unruly child. There are also things that can be quite effective at home — such as ignoring a screaming child (after making sure it isn't hurt or otherwise in real need of attention), and only responding when the child behaves calmly — that just aren't practical in public. Kids are smart enough to realize that the rules in public are different than they are at home, and will take advantage of that to get concessions from you that you wouldn't dream of allowing at home.
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I every time I'm at a pricey restaurant and some couple has brought their two-year-old and gets embarrassed when the kid starts making noise.
Some restaurants are kid-friendly; some aren't. Denny's is kid-friendly; Chez Louis is not. The dividing line is a lot closer to Denny's than to Chez Louis. If it's a restaurant you'd go to just for a break from cooking for yourself, maybe. If it's a restaurant you'd go to on a romantic date, no.
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I won't complain about Denny's, but I normally see this happen when I'm out on a romantic date.
EDIT: I don't go to Denny's as I'm not going to pay for something that's not as good as what I could make at home, but at other restaurants at the same price point, kids don't seem to act up as often, and when they do, the parents are by no means shy about doing whatever is necessary to address the situation.
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Kids are smart enough to realize that the rules in public are different than they are at home, and will take advantage of that to get concessions from you that you wouldn't dream of allowing at home.
This sort of thing needs to be brought up more often whenever someone prattles on about the "innocence of childhood".
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A friend of mine lay down next to his kid in the supermarket and joined the temper-tantrum. That was a really effective way to stop the kid and get him out of the store.
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A friend of mine lay down next to his kid in the supermarket and joined the temper-tantrum. That was a really effective way to stop the kid and get him out of the store.
I thought the goal was to avoid embarassment, not embrace it.
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said:
A friend of mine lay down next to his kid in the supermarket and joined the temper-tantrum. That was a really effective way to stop the kid and get him out of the store.
I thought the goal was to avoid embarassment, not embrace it.
Nope. The goal is (always) to teach the kid what is acceptable behaviour or not. By acting as silly as the kid this is explicitly highlighted, and next time you go into a store, the kid will behave (because otherwise there's no telling what his erratic father might do).
It's a small investment now, or a lifetime of future embarassments.
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Isn't the kid just going to think "well, Daddy's doing it, so it must be fine"? I mean, it's a circular argument - in order to recognise what the father does as embarrassing and learn his lesson, he has to already know that it's embarrassing and silly.
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Isn't the kid just going to think "well, Daddy's doing it, so it must be fine"? I mean, it's a circular argument - in order to recognise what the father does as embarrassing and learn his lesson, he has to already know that it's embarrassing and silly.
They do. They just don't care while they are having a tantrum. As @hardwaregeek said, kids are very adept at context-switching.
Think of the tantrum as an IRQ. Your job is to get them back to user-space. Getting them to
break
,continue
, or throw an exception are some of the means at your disposal.
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You only are embarrassed once instead of multiple times.
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FTFY
Gram'd - bz
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Couldn't be bothered to first liking the post before printing, could you?
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I can fill in the heart for you, if it matters that much.
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Couldn't be bothered to first liking the post before printing, could you?
Colour ink costs money, you know.
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