WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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@Medinoc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
- First was to get back the Windows Explorer menu, because I noticed right away that "Invert Selection" was back to being hidden behind a click (whose bright idea was that?)
Leave a window open for a while and you'll have the menu bar and the new toolbar!
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Medinoc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I noticed right away that "Invert Selection" was back to being hidden behind a click
At the risk of channeling , I can't remember when I last used this feature. Probably Windows 9x.
I've only used it in cases where something else had gone (or was designed) horribly wrong...
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So, you use it pretty often?
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
So, you use it pretty often?
I used other folks more often so it didn't come up as much as one might think.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I used other folks more often
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@Medinoc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
By the way, in Windows 10 and 11 alike, what's the first thing you notice when you check this box?
That the Settings app utterly ignores it, of course!
As do the Calculator, and, well, pretty much all Metro apps, really.I'm not sure what you mean by "the Settings app ignores it".
If you are referring to the actual Settings App itself, then yes, the Win10 Settings app doesn't seem to have a normal title bar (typical Microsoft retarded fuckery) , so I guess there is nothing to change the color of ( ?).
Other than that, I have both of those checked and it works as expected. The Start Menu, Taskbar and Title Bar of whatever window has focus are all a nice blue. I did edit a registry key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM]
"AccentColorInactive"=dword:00c1c1c1And now all windows that do not have focus have a light gray title bar.
I replaced the Calculator app with a better alternative long ago, and all the other useless "metro" apps have long since been deleted and/or replaced.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Medinoc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I noticed right away that "Invert Selection" was back to being hidden behind a click
At the risk of channeling , I can't remember when I last used this feature. Probably Windows 9x.
I use it every single time I deploy a website made in VS, because our procedure (yeah, I know )* is to copy them manually to the destination folder, minus the web.config file (after likewise emptying said destination folder of most of its contents). So, I always click said file and Invert Selection. Which means hiding that button away significantly slows me down and frustrates me.
*To our defense, we have like as many test VMs as we have customers, and our customers have their own test VMs (behind VPNs we connect to from a dedicated VM), it would be even more of a hassle to make and maintain an automatic deployment profile for each of them, and likely impossible in most cases due to the aforementioned VPN considerations.
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@Gern_Blaanston Yeah I mean the Settings app itself.
If you are referring to the actual Settings App itself, then yes, the Win10 Settings app doesn't seem to have a normal title bar (typical Microsoft retarded fuckery) , so I guess there is nothing to change the color of ( 😕 ?).
Which is exactly part of the problem in the first place.
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@Medinoc said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I use it every single time I deploy a website made in VS, because our procedure (yeah, I know )* is to copy them manually to the destination folder, minus the web.config file (after likewise emptying said destination folder of most of its contents). So, I always click said file and Invert Selection. Which means hiding that button away significantly slows me down and frustrates me.
*To our defense, we have like as many test VMs as we have customers, and our customers have their own test VMs (behind VPNs we connect to from a dedicated VM), it would be even more of a hassle to make and maintain an automatic deployment profile for each of them, and likely impossible in most cases due to the aforementioned VPN considerations.
That sort of thing sounds like the reason (inverting selections and so on) why you have deployment tools to get it right for you. Even if they need to be custom scripts.
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Windows 10's canny inability to use normal USB devices (keyboard, mouse) never ceases to amaze me. I use a KVM to switch between my two work machines and my personal computer.
My work computer has full disk encryption, and when you turn it on you have to enter your username and password before Windows will boot. This always detects my mouse and keyboard instantly. Never any problems. But once Windows is running it always takes at least a second for it to recognize the mouse and keyboard. Sometimes it just won't.
My other work computer (customer provided) runs Windows 11 and never seems to have a problem.
My personal computer runs Linux and also never has a problem.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
inability to use normal USB devices (keyboard, mouse)
"Windows is now setting up your HID Generic Keyboard. This may take a few minutes."
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
inability to use normal USB devices (keyboard, mouse)
"Windows is now setting up your HID Generic Keyboard. This may take a few minutes."
Yeah. Fucking retarded. Like it doesn't see this exact keyboard dozens of times per day.
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@boomzilla Did it see that same keyboard on the same USB port, or was the USB port enumerated in a different way on this reboot and so every driver has to be re-setup? Checkmate expecting-things-to-workists.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Checkmate expecting-things-to-workists.
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@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Did it see that same keyboard on the same USB port, or was the USB port enumerated in a different way on this reboot and so every driver has to be re-setup? Checkmate expecting-things-to-workists.
It wasn't unplugged but who knows what fuckery goes on under the covers? Also, the most annoying is when it simply refuses to acknowledge the mouse at all. Happens a lot less with this machine than its predecessor, fortunately, but that it happens at all is a huge .
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Did it see that same keyboard on the same USB port, or was the USB port enumerated in a different way on this reboot and so every driver has to be re-setup? Checkmate expecting-things-to-workists.
It wasn't unplugged but who knows what fuckery goes on under the covers? Also, the most annoying is when it simply refuses to acknowledge the mouse at all. Happens a lot less with this machine than its predecessor, fortunately, but that it happens at all is a huge .
You did mention a KVM switch. Is it emulating the keyboard, so the computers always see it attached? Or is it simply attaching the USB device to the active computer? In the later case, windows does see the keyboard being unplugged and replugged every time you switch away or to it on the KVM switch.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@hungrier said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla Did it see that same keyboard on the same USB port, or was the USB port enumerated in a different way on this reboot and so every driver has to be re-setup? Checkmate expecting-things-to-workists.
It wasn't unplugged but who knows what fuckery goes on under the covers? Also, the most annoying is when it simply refuses to acknowledge the mouse at all. Happens a lot less with this machine than its predecessor, fortunately, but that it happens at all is a huge .
You did mention a KVM switch. Is it emulating the keyboard, so the computers always see it attached? Or is it simply attaching the USB device to the active computer? In the later case, windows does see the keyboard being unplugged and replugged every time you switch away or to it on the KVM switch.
Hah! False. Sometimes it never sees it! Motherfuckers.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
who knows what fuckery goes on under the covers?
:wiggling_eyebrows:
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Or you can have a "frag harder disco keyboard", one of the features being that it occasionally will crash (but only on Windows login) requiring a disconnect/reconnect of the cables to reset it.
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Filed under: I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you...
I have a computer in the living room that I use mostly to watch movies etc. Since a couple of days I noticed the Windows notification sound happening while I'm watching something, and yesterday I remembered after the movie was done to check what it was. There were half-a-dozen notifications of "Windows has detected a suspicious item" or something similar.
Well, let's see what it is? Click the notification, open the whatever-security-panel this is... Last scan date, OK, settings, OK... oh, here "last scan: 1 threat detected." But... this is just a label, not a button/link, and there doesn't seem to be a way to actually see what that threat is!
I was 101% sure it was just Windows shitting itself but I still wanted to check, and the only way I found was to restart another scan right now. Which did confirm that it was Windows shitting itself, since the threat was a random leftover
uninstall.exe
from some software that I must have uninstalled around 2013 or so.Great jorb Windows!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Or you can have a "frag harder disco keyboard", one of the features being that it occasionally will crash (but only on Windows login) requiring a disconnect/reconnect of the cables to reset it.
It's this keyboard:
I quite like it. Especially at that price. But it doesn't really do much of anything fancy and the problems I have are sometimes when I have to "login" because it's locked but usually just during normal operations after returning from a shitpost here.
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Since this is WTDWTF, I'll blame the RGB lighting for your problems.
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@Zerosquare y'know...before I got one I thought they were silly, but I actually find that I like the lighting.
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@boomzilla please hand over your -license at the door, sir.
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@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
If you need lights to type on a keyboard you're
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@Rhywden I'm gonna glue little home dots on 5 random keys while you sleep.
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@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
If you need lights to type on a keyboard you're
Heck, my keyboard doesn't even have labels on half the keys any more, which isn't a problem for normal typing, but occasionally is for pressing Ctrl-key combinations when my hands aren't in normal typing position. Am I about to copy, paste, or bold?
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
If you need lights to type on a keyboard you're
Heck, my keyboard doesn't even have labels on half the keys any more, which isn't a problem for normal typing, but occasionally is for pressing Ctrl-key combinations when my hands aren't in normal typing position. Am I about to copy, paste, or bold?
There are several names for the system people are using when they visually search for the proper keys to press. One name would be the "Falcon System" because your fingers would hover over the keyboard - and when you spot your prey, they'd swoop down.
Then again, my sociology professor once called it the "Palestine System" - one impact per minute.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
If you need lights to type on a keyboard you're
Heck, my keyboard doesn't even have labels on half the keys any more, which isn't a problem for normal typing, but occasionally is for pressing Ctrl-key combinations when my hands aren't in normal typing position. Am I about to copy, paste, or bold?
#mouseSupremacy
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
If you need lights to type on a keyboard you're
Heck, my keyboard doesn't even have labels on half the keys any more, which isn't a problem for normal typing, but occasionally is for pressing Ctrl-key combinations when my hands aren't in normal typing position. Am I about to copy, paste, or bold?
#mouseSupremacy
The VHS to trackball's BetaMax, to be sure. All hail the mighty winner.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@topspin does it matter if the reason I like it is my worsening eye sight, especially in a dim room?
NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT THERE
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Today's shenanigans include telling me every 20-30 seconds or so that it doesn't recognize the last USB device that I plugged in. Which I'd presume to be either my mouse or keyboard when I KVM over there, but it's still doing it while they're disconnected, and they were both working just fine at the time.
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@Rhywden said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
There are several names for the system people are using when they visually search for the proper keys to press. One name would be the "Falcon System" because your fingers would hover over the keyboard - and when you spot your prey, they'd swoop down.
Then again, my sociology professor once called it the "Palestine System" - one impact per minute.
I used to hear it called "Hunt and Peck". There was even a joke about it:
A secretary is being interviewed for a job and the boss asks her "Are you a hunt 'n pecker?"
And she says "No, I'm already married."
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Today's shenanigans
I had Update trying to push Win11 at me again. Guess we'll be clicking the 'no, stay on 10' link a lot more now...
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Today's shenanigans
I had Update trying to push Win11 at me again. Guess we'll be clicking the 'no, stay on 10' link a lot more now...
I'd welcome it but that's too bleeding edge for my company. I never have these problems on my customer machine that's Win11.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Today's shenanigans
I had Update trying to push Win11 at me again. Guess we'll be clicking the 'no, stay on 10' link a lot more now...
I'd welcome it but that's too bleeding edge for my company. I never have these problems on my customer machine that's Win11.
My newest machine is on 11. I don't mind it too much. Except that one thing - let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the left where it fucking belongs.
I tried the Explorer Patcher for a while (in a w11 vm). But when it suddenly wouldn't bring up the start menu at all, I killed that off.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Today's shenanigans
I had Update trying to push Win11 at me again. Guess we'll be clicking the 'no, stay on 10' link a lot more now...
I'd welcome it but that's too bleeding edge for my company. I never have these problems on my customer machine that's Win11.
My newest machine is on 11. I don't mind it too much. Except that one thing - let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the
lefttop where it fucking belongs.I tried the Explorer Patcher for a while (in a w11 vm). But when it suddenly wouldn't bring up the start menu at all, I killed that off.
FTFM. Though my CPU is a generation to old for win11 so I'm not getting nags.
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I had to registry-hack again today, this time to bring back the Windows Explorer's context menu.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
telling me every 20-30 seconds or so that it doesn't recognize the last USB device that I plugged in
You might be able to at least trace down which hub it's dealing with using a logger...
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
I tried the Explorer Patcher for a while (in a w11 vm). But when it suddenly wouldn't bring up the start menu at all, I killed that off.
Yeah, I don't know why that happens. It's the only thing I find is a bit bothersome.
And then I realized how extremely little I use the Start Menu to begin with.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
telling me every 20-30 seconds or so that it doesn't recognize the last USB device that I plugged in
You might be able to at least trace down which hub it's dealing with using a logger...
No way I'd get permission to run that.
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@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@boomzilla said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
telling me every 20-30 seconds or so that it doesn't recognize the last USB device that I plugged in
You might be able to at least trace down which hub it's dealing with using a logger...
No way I'd get permission to run that.
Don't need permission. It also doesn't need escalation either (so far as I can tell). The only problem is how to get it onto the system. I hear UUENCODE is still a viable sneakernet solution...
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the left where it fucking belongs.
I tried the Explorer Patcher for a while (in a w11 vm). But when it suddenly wouldn't bring up the start menu at all, I killed that off.
The first time I installed Windows 11 I tried Explorer Patcher and there were a lot of problems. The second time, everything seemed to work OK, but patching Explorer is risky business.
Having to patch an executable that is heavily used by Windows, just to get back functionality that never should have been fucked with in the first place, is just one more reason to avoid Windows 11.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
just to get back functionality
On the other hand, I'm greatly enjoying this little switcher utility, which lets me skip virtual desktops without the annoying animation.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the left where it fucking belongs.
Not what I'm talking about. I've already "fixed" the taskbar with left alignment. What w11 prevents is moving the entire thing to the left. Or the top as @PleegWat desires. I want the task bar on the shortest edge of a monitor (so if I'm in portrait mode, I want it on the bottom)
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the left where it fucking belongs.
Not what I'm talking about. I've already "fixed" the taskbar with left alignment. What w11 prevents is moving the entire thing to the left.
Now I'm confused. What "entire thing"?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
let me move the <highly censored/> task bar to the left where it fucking belongs.
Not what I'm talking about. I've already "fixed" the taskbar with left alignment. What w11 prevents is moving the entire thing to the left.
Now I'm confused. What "entire thing"?
He wants the start bar to be vertically aligned down the left hand side of the monitor.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
Now I'm confused. What "entire thing"?
The entire task bar, as opposed to its contents inside it.
I too used to used to have the taskbar on the side (right side in my case) rather than the bottom.
I currently do not because I already have Sidebery in Firefox, Solution Explorer and document tabs in VS, etc. occupying that space and my laptop's screen isn't that wide.
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