WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
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I'm on a 980
That probably explains the varying mileage. From what I've read yesterday there were mostly complaints from 6 and 7 series. By this I mean the stories I've read were from owners of such cards not that there was any implication it only affects those.
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I had all sorts of issues when upgrading my laptop, which has a Radeon HD 7470m in it, from 7 to 8. Refreshing was the only way to fix that nightmare. This time, I was extremely paranoid about the upgrade so I imaged the laptop and waited to start the upgrade until I had 24+ hours to deal with issues. Somehow, nothing bad happened immediately this time. There are still a few minor issues that AMD never bothered to fix though. Graphics drivers are the bane of my computer maintenance existence.
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Graphics drivers are the bane of my computer maintenance existence.
That seems odd, because in my experience...
AMD
Oh. I'm so, so sorry.
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How is it that I, the person who is usually gung-ho about all things Windows, the only one who's holding back and waiting for all the quirks to get addressed before installing it?
You guys are all idiots.
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I don't know, I've only had an issue on my tablet so far. In general, it's really been great.
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How is it that I, the person who is usually gung-ho about all things Windows, the only one who's holding back and waiting for all the quirks to get addressed before installing it?
Because you're not as observant as you think.
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Well it seems this thread was right. Even Microsoft agrees.
"We told you Windows 10 would be ready on the 28 but we're not really sure so you probably shouldn't upgrade yet".
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I look forward to continuation of the fun after work tonight.
OK, so I couldn't get it working and from what I've read neither could a lot of people with all kinds of nVIDIA cards.
I decided to try rollback to the previous build feature. I didn't have any particular hopes as I thought it meant rollback to the previous build of 10 if you had a different build before.But lo and behold, after 5 minutes staring at "Restarting..." spinner, getting tired of that and rebooting myself, I get a "Restoring previous version of Windows". 10 more minutes and I'm back on 8.1. So I guess 10 at least got that going for it.
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With the relative ease of going to 10 and back, I might try once more after the next GeForce update.
Because what I did manage to see in 10, was rather nice.
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FWIW I have a 650 ti boost and I didn't have any problems with it after the upgrade.
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FWIW I have a 650 ti boost and I didn't have any problems with it after the upgrade.
I have a 660 TI and windows 10 is working fine for me.
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How is it that I, the person who is usually gung-ho about all things Windows, the only one who's holding back and waiting for all the quirks to get addressed before installing it?
I'm not letting it on my main PC for now, and restoring the tablet it's on if something screws up is like an hour tops.
So far, no problems though. Even the drivers got through without the need to restore them.
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I'm with you on this one. I'll give it a couple weeks. And make sure I have a free weekend - attempts at updating windows will probably break my linux dual boot, apart from any other issues.
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There was an update last night (helpfully described as 'cumulative updates for Windows 10', or something) and now the Mail app has stopped working.
No idea if it's possible to reinstall a built-in app without reinstalling everything so I guess I just have to wait :(
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No repro. Also, my desktop doesn't crash anymore since the update. Yay!
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The Communications app (Mail, Calendar, People) comes in the box, but behaves like a regular Store app when it comes to updates and uninstalls/reinstalls. Just remove it and re-download it as normal.
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A couple of my coworkers have rolled it out on their work PCs, I haven't yet because my desktop at work is a clunky POS with 2GB RAM that doesn't seem to be upgradable.
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my desktop at work is a clunky POS with 2GB RAM that doesn't seem to be upgradable.
You have to be fist-fucking me? How old is it??
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with 2GB RAM
That is below the requirements here for people with who almost only run office.
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Luckily, it fixed itself after a couple of reboots. Still doesn't update the live tile accurately, though.
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my desktop at work is a clunky POS with 2GB RAM
My condolence. (You'd get more than one but you wouldn't be able to run them on your PC.)
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A couple of my coworkers have rolled it out on their work PCs, I haven't yet because my desktop at work is a clunky POS with 2GB RAM that doesn't seem to be upgradable.
And I thought mine with only 4GB was bad.
Then again, I also have two web browsers, Outlook, -
LyncSkype for Business, Eclipse, and the developer version of Oracle Application Server (aka OC4J) running at the same time.... 4GB is barely enough for it.
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Meanwhile my boss demanded my work laptop be upgraded to 16 GB, even though it never gets close to consuming the 8 GB I have now.
My alternative suggestion, to put a real SSD inside it instead of that dumb SSD/HD combo thing, was ignored. Probably because an SSD costs slightly more.
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Probably because an SSD costs slightly more.
They should do both. Hardware is cheap. Programmers are expensive.
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Hardware is cheap. Programmers are expensive.
But you have to fill out a gazillions of forms to get new hardware, and every piece costs something, if only a bit. Employees are already there, no matter what, so they don't cost anything additionally.
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But you have to fill out a gazillions of forms to get new hardware, and every piece costs something, if only a bit.
They are doing it wrong.
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I know that, and you know that, but does my boss know that.
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Translation Technician ==> PHB:
Doing It WrongTM ==> Doing It RightTM
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You can unselect Windows 10 from the Windows Update updates list... and it will start installing it anyway.
That explains what happened. I could have sworn I had unchecked it. I just figured I'd mis-moused somewhere... Oh well, I was planning on doing it soon anyways...
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My condolence.
You have to be fist-fucking me? How old is it??
I'll have you know my fleet of IBM T42 Thinkpad laptops is running just fine with Windows 7 Pro, 512 Mb of RAM (1 Gb if you're lucky, son!), Integrated AMD graphics, 1024x768 display resolution, and a 40 Gb hard drive.
Of course, since the CPU doesn't have PAE, I can't enjoy Windows 8 or anything up (tried it, trust me, I tried...) but gosh darned it it works just as well for the kids' homework needs!
On the plus side, they can barely play minecraft, so there's no temptation to waste time playing games when they're supposed to be doing homework!
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So I grabbed my Windows 7 VirtualBox VM that I use for testing stuff and tried to install Windows 10.
First few tries: program downloads aaaallllll the installer image, then "creates install media" (I assume this just means unpacking to disk) then after an hour or so (VirtualBox is slow as shit) complains that my system does not fulfil the minimum requirements. Good job. (and then deletes the image from the disk so I can't try again without redownloading).
After fiddling with the VM settings (you have to set it to Windows 10), I manage to get it to launch the installer.
After a full hour with the installer "looking for updates" I disconnected it from the internet to see if it was doing anything at all. When there were no changes for 10 minutes I gave up.
I think I can live without Windows 10 for now.
Shit Microsoft, get it together.
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My sister's laptop got the update the normal way on Saturday while I was over visiting, and upgraded smoothly with no issues. She has an old nVidia mobile GPU.
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I think this was already mentioned, but Microsoft has a tool for doing that.
Although it might just be easier to put it on a bootable Flash drive (which the tool can also do).
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burned an ISO to disc,
Who uses optical media anymore?
Slam it on a flash drive, holla!Myself, I'm prepping my WDS server to stream it throughout my domain over this upcoming weekend.
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Who uses optical media anymore?
People who don't want the file deleted out from under them, natch.
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What's a "disc"? That thing they used in the 70s?
http://www.johnkingworld.com/aplus/images/storage-8inch-floppy.jpg
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That's why we have Volume Shadow Cop-- Oh never mind, they nerfed that...
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For some reason that looks bigger than 5 1/2", or that lady is rather small...
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That's why we have Volume Shadow Cop-- Oh never mind, they nerfed that...
Would that even work on a flash drive?
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He said "70s". That makes it an 8" disk.
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That's the tool I used for installing.
It downloads AND installs Windows. Microsoft likes to confuse people, just like how the "Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool" did not actually download anything and also worked for Windows 8.
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Would that even work on a flash drive?
Afaik it works wherever the NTFS filesystem works, so... probably?
Besides, it's not like Windows Update would target the staging files on the flash drive.He said "70s". That makes it an 8" disk.
Ah. That's the problem with rolling memory-based databasing, stuff that isn't written back to the front when it reaches the end just... disappears...did not actually download anything
Sure it did! It "downloaded" windows to the CD or Flash drive! The average user wouldn't know that's not exactly accurate...
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...I used that tool to download a Windows 10 iso. It's sitting on my home computer right now in my ISO Images directory.
Granted, I renamed it from Windows.iso to Windows 10.iso because I think just naming it Windows.iso was dumb, but eh.
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Afaik it works wherever the NTFS filesystem works, so... probably?
Irregardless, Windows wouldn't have been able to delete it off (non-RW) optical media.
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Right, but I really only wanted to upgrade my current (virtual) machine, I didn't really care if it saved it somewhere or not.
Fun fact: I do have a bootable USB, but I can't use it because VirtualBox is being a piece of shit and refusing to connect USB devices to the VM (another unrelated WTF).
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Irregardless, Windows wouldn't have been able to delete it off (non-RW) optical media.
Irregardless... Not without regarding?
Anyways, it is technically possible to null post-burnt data:
And if the disk wasn't finalized, an appended TOC session could easily make Windows "believe" that it's "not there".
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Well, you can attach USB devices, but not boot from them.
I had to make a "special" (emphasis theirs) VMDK file to do that.
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like how the "Windows 7 USB/DVD download tool" did not actually download anything and
also worked for Windows 8doesn't fucking work.FTFY
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Hey, you don't need to tell me.
Well, you can attach USB devices, but not boot from them.
No, I can't attach USB drives at all. It's a common bug apparently, the host refuses to hand over control of storage devices to a program and you have to do some advanced fuckery to fix it.