WTF happened to Windows 95?
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Hah, there's a new (and possibly correct) theory for why they skipped 9 (not saying this is the entire reason, but one of many contributing factors)
https://searchcode.com/?q=if(version%2Cstartswith("windows+9")
Basically, there's a lot of pre-existing code, for example, the Java SDK, that looks for "Windows 9" in the operating system's name and runs differently based on that.
Edit: And hanzo'd
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Batch files are hardly a vestigial organ.
I guess you approve of Apple's periodic "Fuck you, we're switching architectures and invalidating every single application you have" moves.
I was being sarcastic towards @blakeyrat. Don't take me seriously, I rarely am.
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@Intercourse said:
I would agree, but @blakeyrat says that we are wrong. And @blakeyrat has never been wrong. If you do not believe me, just ask him.
If @blakeyrat has 'never been wrong' how would he actually know if he is?
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The
version.startswith("Windows 9")
theory is hilarious, sad, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's the true cause. Actually... I feel like that may be more likely than just some raw marketing reason.It wouldn't be the first time for something like that: Windows 95 reported its version as 3.95 to get around an issue that was actually pretty similar.
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They could have called it "Windows Nine", to avoid the "Windows 9" string match...
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Or even Windows IX.
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No, refusing to flag properly-pendantic posts is actually sadism, not laziness.
If the post is properly pedantic it doesn't really deserve the badge.
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Translation: I recognized the attempted humor, but refused to let it stand.
I can get behind that.
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I will never beg forgiveness for questioning!
Just remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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None of you guys are going to beat the sheer awesomeness of Windows One Two.
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If the post is properly pedantic it doesn't really deserve the badge.
What if it's both proper and dickweedery? I'm not sure that's impossible.
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What if it's both proper and dickweedery? I'm not sure that's impossible.
It's like obscenity. I know it when I see it.
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Because I wasn't verbatim?
Because there's literally no way a rational person could get from the words Terry said, that I posted, to the interpretation you gave.
The correct interpretation is that Terry explained the two most obvious choices for the version name, and explained why they were not chosen (omitting the more wtfy explanation about 9.x vs 9x that was mentioned just above), and then, by beginning the next section with “where does that leave us?”, indicated that they'd settled on the third most obvious option, Windows 10.
Windows 10 is a good name for the current version. This version represents the culmination of Microsoft's internal unification, the process that started with the concurrent versioning of the desktop and phone oses, and resulted in a single windows product that can run on any form factor, and while One would have been more ‘revolutionary’, it would suggest a bigger break with previous windowses than we're really seeing.
There has been some talk about providing 10 as a free upgrade to Windows 8 users, and settling into a yearly release schedule, presumably with free upgrades as well, and while this is probably hopefully optimistic, the idea that 10 is the start of a new direction in Windows after which we'll see frequent incremental improvements numbered in a logical sequence is really enticing. And while the changes to the console are definitely underwhelming, the optimistic way to look at this is to consider that Windows is at finally headed in the right direction.
Hopefully, a decade from now, we'll be able to look back at the 1x series of windows as something good, and if that day comes, it will be plain to see that Windows 10 was the turning point.
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The correct interpretation is that Terry explained the two most obvious choices for the version name
Nonsense. They were clearly trying to break the "good version/bad version" meme by skipping the bad version. (This assumes they don't want to believe 8 and/or 8.1 was a bad version.)
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their fault for not using torrents
Oh they do, just not the way they want to. Or do they? I sort of believe in that conspiracy theory that MS doesn't care about users pirating Windows.
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Unrelated
http://i.imgur.com/Tk7wdnS.png
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You stated that we would be denied that we are being denied the badge by those who think we aren't pedantic enough. I expanded that group by adding in those who refuse to participate in such gamifaction. And @boomzilla threw in the lazy shits to round things out.
I considered flagging this post, but I fall on @boomzilla's category.
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They should have called it Windows 9 and then followed the wp7 minor version scheme, imo.
Filed under 9.5, 9.8, M.E
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Let me introduce another theory: they didn't want people to abbreviate to W9 and call it "whine".
Incidently: I've seen people call Win7 "Weven". Do people call Windows 8 "Weight"? I haven't seen that.
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Do people call Windows 8 "Weight"? I haven't seen that.
I'm not sure about "Weight" but I sometimes hear around the office things like:
- This stupid piece of shit
- Goddamn motherfucking crap
- I want Win7 back now!
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Let me introduce another theory: they didn't want people to abbreviate to W9 and call it "whine".
WINE Is Not the vErsion.
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Probably just didn't want people to make further jokes about how windows 7/8/9 are the predecessors of windows 95?
Grant, people only make those jokes when they have some grain of truth to them (windows 8)...
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Alternatively, they just wanted a nice round number instead of yet another cumulative update.
Next windows is 20. After that - 100.
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Windows users be like: "I could never switch to Linux, you have to drop to a command line and TYPE all the time, that's so tedious and it's too easy to make typos. I prefer the Windows 8 Way: Press the special key that only ships on Windows keyboards, then type the command you want or the program name you wanted to execute. SO much better than this command-line bullshit."
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What if you are a Linux user who uses Mod4+R to lauch all her her programs and uses a Windows keyboard?
EDIT: added kbd tags
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Mod4+R to launch all her her programs
Google gave me the Wikipedia article for R-36 missiles.
I approve. :D
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Typing the first couple of characters in a programs name and getting it suggested for you is
somewhatvery different from using a command line though...
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Not to me. I never type more than about 3 characters and a tab unless the tab doesn't work, in which case I tap tab twice, figure out how many more I need to type from the list of suggestions, and type that much, followed by a tab.
To be fair, Windows has tab completion too:
http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2006/08/cmd_tab_completion.gif
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Doesn't allow you to type "Server" for "SQL Server Management Studio"
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Which brings me around to the bit I almost edited into my post:
My biggest problem with win+type is I have a lot of programs that don't name themselves anything sensible on the start menu. Or put themselves on the start menu (PuTTY anyone?). Trying to remember exactly what words to use to find my program is way more complex than The Linux Way of naming programs short, memorable names. Like mysql for MySQL. Rather than "Server Management Application" and then you try to remember what the fuck the name is since MySQL doesn't find that.
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You know that could - if you were a little insane - change windows' env variables to contain putty when tab-completing - at least in powershell?
And create a folder with linuxy-named symlinks to exes of programs you want to be accessible like that?
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I don't use Powershell.
(Cue horrified stares and ominous music)
No, but seriously, most of my command-line stuff is done in PuTTY on a remote Linux server, or a handful of commands in windows cmd (normally executing a batch file I cobbled together to save typing, or typing "vagrant up" so I can get into a Linux environment ;P )I did finally break down and make a "ls.bat" that executes "dir" and add that to my path
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You can use powershell as a run prompt, I mean.
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I just kept Win7, ignoring 8 entirely, and use the goddamn Start Menu like Gates intended XD
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right.... vagrant. i have got to remember that's a thing and get it set up again.
I have an Ubuntu VM in Virtualbox that autostarts when i login that i do about 60% of my debelopment in (the other 40% is on our C# apps)
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My biggest problem with win+type is I have a lot of programs that don't name themselves anything sensible on the start menu. Or put themselves on the start menu (PuTTY anyone?). Trying to remember exactly what words to use to find my program is way more complex than The Linux Way of naming programs short, memorable names. Like mysql for MySQL. Rather than "Server Management Application" and then you try to remember what the fuck the name is since MySQL doesn't find that.
Using KDE, I get the best of both worlds when I use krunner (default, Alt-F2). And it's a lot faster than Winkey searching IME.
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KRunner is awesome, yes.
Although, Windows7's search is also pretty fast. The big issue with Win8's is that it has to push open a panel or flip the start screen - which means a short but noticable pause - and fetches web results which slow it down. It's quite comparable to Ubuntu's Unity panel search in that regard (thank god I haven't touched that in quite some time).
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I doubt you can install Windows 1 easily on a modern computer.
That sounds like an interesting challenge I do not want to face but want to see other people try.We should have a contest of "What is the most recent (and maybe even most stupid) technologic piece that you can run with Windows 1?"
I can't wait for people to try to hack into a microwave just to install Win 1 and then post a screenshot of it :like: (← placeholder for a smiley with hearts as eyes)
Filed Under: Would anybody participate in this?
For some reason I have Windows 3.11 installed in my DOSBox. Not quite Windows 1.0, but a step in the right direction.
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i started on KDE(2.something or maybe an early 3.something. it was a while ago) and just couldn't get into it, i think it tried too hard to emulate windoes for me to get comfortable. so i switched to gnome and all was well... until Gnome 3...
i'm now bouncing back and forth between LXDE and XFCE4 and watching both KDE and Gnome and waiting for one of them to become sane enough to move back to one of them.
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Although, Windows7's search is also pretty fast.
My most commonly searched thing is for windows updates. Usually goes like this:
WIN, type "updates"
...wait a second or so...
...resist the urge to click the first thing it always finds: java updater...
...eventually Windows Updates shows up.OK, just did it, and it seemed fairly responsive. I know that in the past I've had time to move my hand off the keyboard, to the trackpad and click that before windows updates actually appeared. Maybe it's finally learning or something. Still a lot slower than KRunner.
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you mean ?
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I can't wait for people to try to hack into a microwave just to install Win 1 and then post a screenshot of it :like: (← placeholder for a smiley with hearts as eyes)
Now we just need to be able to onebox this...
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Press the special key that only ships on Windows keyboards
Ctrl-Esc worked last time I checked. And my keyboard at home doesn't even have a Windows key - doesn't really stop me from accessing the Start menu/screen.
All the other Win-whatever shortcuts, OTOH...
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I would be so up for the Windows 1 challenge but I don't have any install media
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Or put themselves on the start menu (PuTTY anyone?)
The PuTTY installer puts it on the start menu. It's just not the only download option and most people probably use the zip for portability.
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watching both KDE and Gnome and waiting for one of them to become sane enough to move back to one of them.
Don't hold your breath. Gnome seems to be infected by the same "everything is a phone" brain worm that currently plagues Windows. KDE seems to still be working on making a free Windows XP/7 clone. Both have always been targeted at casual users and always will be.
That said, I use KDE on my Slackware laptop. It doesn't take up as much resources as you would expect, and the eye candy bells and whistles can be turned off if needed.
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yeah, i don't think i'll be "upbrading" to a full desktop environment anytime soon. the simple window managers of LXDE and XFCE4 are serving me just fine.