Coding Horror with a keyboard?
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I was just searching for a nice mechanical keyboard (my IBM keyboard of 15+ yo has died this weekend).
Et voila, Jeff @wood is selling mechanical keyboards[url=http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/open-box-code/code-104-key-mechanical-keyboard-open-box.html][/url]
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yeah, i saw the launch announcement for those keyboards.
i was all "ooh cool. i could use a new keyboard for work, and i can probably get away with expensing it" then i saw the names of the colaborators and i was all like
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They also are not that good, since at least three of them have been returned, repaired or refurbished.
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Shocker. Jeff normally puts his name to high quality products.
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FTFJ
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Does it have a timer that sends CTRL+ADEL if you haven't typed anything for five minutes? Because then obviously you are finished with whatever you were doing and it can be jeffed away.
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If you type more than 30 WPM you get told to let others join the conversation
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IBM keyboard
If it's the real clicky stuff then you can still find those, the guy at http://www.clickykeyboards.com/ has been buying old stock for years.
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One of our techs pulled an IBM Model M13 from 1997 off the floor. I nabbed it before it got returned. I don't know anything about mechanical keyboards, but I do know the model M. Unfortunately it's too loud to use in my cube as I think it would drive my coworkers crazy. I'll probably just ask my boss if I can take it home.
Anyways...what's this puppy worth? It's nearly mint, as far as I can tell. Looks like it was hardly used.
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It's just a re-branded WASD keyboard:
You can customize one to be pretty much the same if you want. It's just a template from what I can see.
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The NumLock won't turn off...
That's stupid, why would anyone ever use NumLock?!?! *beats you over the head with the keyboard*
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This doesn't have a very good layout, given my IDE's shortcuts.
IDE's are for coders this isn't for coders STOP DOING IT WRONG!
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In all seriousness a friend of mine was looking at mechanical keyboards and was about to get one of those. I told him about our experiences with Discourse and Atwood and he decided to go with another brand.
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Thanks I'll look into that
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yups I was actually at wasdkeyboard (see link) on their refurbished page
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@Lorne_Kates said:
This doesn't have a very good layout, given my IDE's shortcuts.
IDE's are for coders this isn't for coders STOP DOING IT WRONG!
Developers aren't real users - no-one cares what developers think
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To answer the topic title (currently "Why is Jeff everywhere"):
Jeff employs a lower power version of the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field.
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One of our techs pulled an IBM Model M13 from 1997 off the floor. I nabbed it before it got returned. I don't know anything about mechanical keyboards, but I do know the model M. Unfortunately it's too loud to use in my cube as I think it would drive my coworkers crazy. I'll probably just ask my boss if I can take it home.
Anyways...what's this puppy worth?
Hard to say... Could be anything between $70 and $150 depending on the state of the plastic (they had a design flaw where plastic rivets would snap).
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Jeff employs a lower power version of the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field.
What I understood is that he actually has a high powered one with overdrive functionality. But he has programmed it him self so it has a very short range (e.g. not more than 50 cm from his nose (e.g. e.g. only his own head)
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Developers aren't real users - no-one cares what developers think
They should not think they should write beautiful working code.
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@loopback0 said:
Developers aren't real users - no-one cares what developers think
They should not think they should write beautiful working code.I'd accept just working code from Discodevs.
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But it is working - if you measure it in CPU time spent for heating.
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One of our techs pulled an IBM Model M13 from 1997 off the floor.
Ugh.
I nabbed it before it got returned. I don't know anything about mechanical keyboards, but I do know the model M.
So do I. The most obnoxious piece of computer hardware ever made.
Unfortunately it's too loud to use in my cube as I think it would drive my coworkers crazy.
You are the rare Model M fan who has SOME form of common courtesy.
Anyways...what's this puppy worth?
Sell it to one of the morons who constantly post on Slashdot how great those horrible keyboards are.
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I mean, it seems like it would be fun to use. I just didn't think it would be appropriate for the office. Perhaps I would put it in my bedroom or something. I actually hooked it up to a test box I had but after a few keystrokes and the realization of how loud it was I swapped it out for a plain ol' HP PS/2 keyboard.
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I mean, it seems like it would be fun to use.
No it does not.
I just didn't think it would be appropriate for the office.
It's equally obnoxious at home, the only difference is the number of people you annoy.
I swapped it out for a plain ol' HP PS/2 keyboard.
What decade are you time-poddin' in? I can't even remember the last time I saw a PS/2 keyboard.
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It's equally obnoxious at home, the only difference is the number of people you annoy.
Just my (mostly senile) grandpa and my cat. I doubt either will care.What decade are you time-poddin' in? I can't even remember the last time I saw a PS/2 keyboard.
They make up like half of the keyboards and mice we have here, hence the connectors that are still present on almost every desktop ever. Especially business-class desktops. Not so much laptops, but the docks we use for them have two PS/2 connectors.
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What decade are you time-poddin' in? I can't even remember the last time I saw a PS/2 keyboard.
Looks at desk... yes I currently use a PS/2 keyboard. Because it was around and does not use a usb port.
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No! Not more color! We need to make it more gray so it doesn't distract the user!
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Developers aren't real users - no-one cares what developers think
Shit, I remember that conversation.
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@rc4 said:
They make up like half of the keyboards and mice we have here,
Where is "here"? 1994?
Hey, all of these keyboards are brand-new or only a few years old. We have a bunch of USB, too, like I said. Our hardware gets refreshed every few years; we just picked out new hardware standards last month for 2016.
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Probably or somewhere in the gaming world. Those people think it has some advantage (polling rates use of IRQ and such) but then again I think the gaming world is full of black magic believers.
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And don't forget to lukewarm-map the key colors to show which keys are or aren't used very often!
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Hey, all of these keyboards are brand-new or only a few years old.
That is incompatible with you having PS/2 keyboards. One of the two statements is a lie.
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PS/2 forever!
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Probably or somewhere in the gaming world. Those people think it has some advantage (polling rates use of IRQ and such) but then again I think the gaming world is full of black magic believers.
I've never heard of that, but I guess it's less harmful to game performance than using those stupid ramdisk programs, so why not.
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And don't forget to lukewarm-map the key colors to show which keys are or aren't used very often!
There are LEDs under the keys for that. It's all based on individual usage, but if the keyboard is at a multi-user computer, there's bound to be some stats crossover. Multi-user setups are .
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You are the rare Model M fan who has SOME form of common courtesy.
I mean, it seems like it would be fun to use.... Perhaps I would put it in my bedroom or something
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@Lorne_Kates said:
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@Lorne_Kates said:
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These keyboards can take a good mechanical pounding.
Filed under: And they can go through the dishwasher
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You know you have a proper keyboard when after bludgeoning a coworker to death with it you can return to work.
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Dave Barry had a bit about how when the phone company was a monopoly, they'd only have 3 models of phone available and all three weighed enough that they were "frequently used in mystery movies as murder weapons".
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Yuk, it has that awful single-line Enter key.
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Shhh, we 105-key users have to be quiet about it, last time I mentioned that the return key is the wrong shape I was nearly burned at the stake.
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It's real, not some voodoo. Maybe less relevant now, but it at least was at one point. http://superuser.com/questions/16893/do-usb-or-ps-2-keyboards-respond-faster
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2002 study using DOS as the OS? Not sure that even remotely applies in 2015. But at least there's some basis for believing it, so that's still better than most video game mythology.
There's also some misinformation further down on that page. X-key-rollover isn't limited by the USB connection or protocol, it's limited by the little CPU on the keyboard that takes the raw keypresses and converts them to the USB protocol. I don't believe there's any reason a USB keyboard couldn't have unlimited-key-rollover except that it would make it more expensive to manufacture. (Although it is a point that PS/2 keyboards get that "for free". More or less.)
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(Although it is a point that PS/2 keyboards get that "for free". More or less.)
Right, that's something that's certainly still relevant today. AFAIK, all PS/2 keyboards can have unlimited simultaneous keypresses while USB ones are limited at least somewhat (seems like 4-6 is the norm).
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It's only a matter of time before motherboard makers get pissed of supporting PS/2, though. They already refuse to put two distinct ones on the board, and only put on a single "combo" port. (How it auto-detects which device it plugged in, I have no idea.)
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It all happens automagically in the driver, methinks.
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What decade are you time-poddin' in?
If you go to newegg and look at LGA1151 motherboards, lots of them still have 1 or even 2 PS/2 connectors, (presumably) because most people who make USB keyboards are too cheap to do the extra work to support n-key rollover.