Apple's newest iPhone, 2016
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@sloosecannon said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@sloosecannon said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@masonwheeler said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Hopefully this will finish the job, leaving no one but the most hardcore of iDiots on their ridiculous, abusive platform.
Huh, maybe tomorrow when I have a moment, I'll try and combine all of those posts where I was in this thread called an idiot or similar, simply for enjoying my phone.
I have a feeling it's gonna be fun. :D
I mean, I won't hate on people for using an iPhone.
Huh, I didn't follow that closely, but I bet you had! :D
Nah. I'll tell you I think it's a waste of money and a bad decision, but I don't hate on anyone
Yes you do, you're just in denial about your sexism!
Oh wait, wrong thread.
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@sloosecannon said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@sloosecannon said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@masonwheeler said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Hopefully this will finish the job, leaving no one but the most hardcore of iDiots on their ridiculous, abusive platform.
Huh, maybe tomorrow when I have a moment, I'll try and combine all of those posts where I was in this thread called an idiot or similar, simply for enjoying my phone.
I have a feeling it's gonna be fun. :D
I mean, I won't hate on people for using an iPhone.
Huh, I didn't follow that closely, but I bet you had! :D
Nah. I'll tell you I think it's a waste of money and a bad decision, but I don't hate on anyone
No, you waste your money!
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@HardwareGeek said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@sloosecannon said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Samsung can't make software worth shit.
On the contrary, that's exactly what they make.
Touchê
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@masonwheeler said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
I heard a rumor that they were going to add wireless charging technology to the latest model. Any truth to that one?
No chance. It was added to Androids less than 4 years ago so still a while before Apple's new and magical wireless charging that they think you're gonna love
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I just got home and read through this thread and am surprised by some people's responses.
People were playing the keynote on TVs in the background in my office, and it looks like I'm the only person on this forum who actually paid attention to it. Did any of you people hear what Tim cook said? He said that analog technology is ancient. This means that it's bad. VCRs are analog, Blu-ray is digital...take a guess which one sounds better...
Apple is the only company with the courage to do this to their users.
:trolleybus:
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Mods please move this to side bar wtf.
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
technology is ancient. This means that it's bad.
I don't see anyone complaining when I use a hammer with nails to do the job of hammered-in nails.
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@izzion said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@Magus
It's too bad no one has invented a wireless technology to pair headphones and smart phones and transfer audio.So that you can pay twice as much for substandard headphones just because they can connect wirelessly? Unless you can show me a bluetooth receiver to which I can connect any 3,5mm headphones, you can pry my Sennheisers out of my cold, dead hands.
Moot point for me since I have an iPod, the smartphones these days have way too weak batteries to waste them on music anyway. But still, wireless-only audio is a recipe for the same problems as the lack of SD slots or replaceable batteries - you overpay for stuff you could have for cheaper and in better quality if it wasn't for the phones' manufacturers odd insistence on removing simple features for the sake of removing features.
@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
and beam-forming mice reduce external noise
I prefer no mice in my headphones, even if they have no wires to chew on.
@error said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Fuck that wireless shit.
Fuck that in-ear shit too, by the way. They keep falling out all the time, I guess my ear canals are weird or something.
I had earphones that were a perfect portable design once - flat, small disks with a hook to go over the ear. But they were $5 bargain bin stuff and died quickly, and as far as I know no one makes that kind of earphones in better quality.
So I just decided "fuck it" and go around town with big-ass on-ears on.
@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
He said that analog technology is ancient.
Oh, yes, I'm sure we're all going to enjoy our music consist purely of constant-clocked square waves. It's the Apple way.
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@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Huh, maybe tomorrow when I have a moment, I'll try and combine all of those posts where I was in this thread called an idiot or similar, simply for enjoying my phone.
I didn't call you an idiot, I called you an iDiot. (The stylish capitalization is very important!)
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@Maciejasjmj said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Unless you can show me a bluetooth receiver to which I can connect any 3,5mm headphones
I had one, actually. Cheap China thing, looks like this:
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@Maciejasjmj said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Oh, yes, I'm sure we're all going to enjoy our music consist purely of constant-clocked square waves. It's the Apple way.
Once had a program for my Ti83+ that did this. I don't remember the wav specs, but it could play like 3-seconds of audio out the data port.
It was pretty impressive at the time!
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
He said that analog technology is ancient. This means that it's bad. VCRs are analog, Blu-ray is digital.
Bluetooth is digital; no proprietary, incompatible, walled-garden system needed.
In any audio system, the last bit that vibrates to transfer the sound from the electronics to your ears is analog, and until we get direct connections from the electronics to the auditory nerves, it'll stay that way. (Even then, the actual nerve stimulus probably still will be.) That's the limiting factor in the best audio system.
My ears are analog. Bad analog is bad. Good analog is better than my ears.
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@HardwareGeek no but Bluetooth doesn't have the magic high quality chip that the AirPod™ has :D
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@HardwareGeek no but Bluetooth doesn't have the magic high quality
chipsucker bait that the AirPod™ has :DFTFA
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@Maciejasjmj said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Unless you can show me a bluetooth receiver to which I can connect any 3,5mm headphones, you can pry my Sennheisers out of my cold, dead hands.
Sennheiser's cheap stuff has a higher quality ceiling than what Bluetooth will give you anyways.
@Maciejasjmj said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Oh, yes, I'm sure we're all going to enjoy our music consist purely of constant-clocked square waves. It's the Apple way.
I think techno is way ahead of the, er, wave there.
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@aliceif said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Meanwhile, LG unveiled a phone with
- micro SD slot
- removable back cover
- replacable battery
- USB-C
- 3.5mm headphone connector
- an up-to-date CPU
- Android 7.0
which will forever be overlooked.
And that isn't even their flagship line. Based on current rumors, the G6 next year will be quite an improvement.
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Apple is the only company with the courage to do this to their users.
To do what to their users? Service them, the way a farmer services a cow?
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@Maciejasjmj said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
They keep falling out all the time, I guess my ear canals are weird or something.
Here in the first world, even the $10 headphones usually come with 3 sizes of the rubber part that goes in your ear. Plus, you gotta put 'em in right or they won't stay if you sweat even a drop.
as appropriate, or inappropriate.
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
no but Bluetooth doesn't have the magic high
qualitypriced chip that the AirPod™ has
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@Magus said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@accalia They've been saying they were planning this for some time... It's nice, because now you can't listen to music while your phone charges!
You can if you choose to charge it on your car... given your car have the right adapter.
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[tonight's late show cold open]
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@FrostCat said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Apple is the only company with the courage to do this to their users.
To do what to their users? Service them, the way a farmer services a cow?
:gig-- um....
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@Sumireko said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
What's the next move, you ask? Why of course, thin client phones! Fuck data limits, we'll just stick everything on the "iCloud"!
Isn't that what the original iPhone was?
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@accalia said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
well fuck. that's about the most user hostile thing they could do apart from make the phone fatally electrocute people at random. and their fantards will STILL eat that shit up and praise them for their innovation.
To be fair, as a school technician the single most common hardware issue I need to deal with across our entire fleet of devices is 3.5mm audio plugs breaking off and leaving the broken tips wedged deep inside the sockets.
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@masonwheeler said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
I heard a rumor that they were going to add wireless charging technology to the latest model. Any truth to that one?
They've had that since iPhone 4. Just pop it in the microwave for thirty seconds and it's good to go.
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Twitter reactions about the headphone jack thing are amusing...
https://twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/773646623750651904
https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/773655522528550912
https://twitter.com/jasonlong/status/773599143721771008
https://twitter.com/herebejames/status/773591741173796864
https://twitter.com/Martin_Wolf/status/773588577322201089
That said, I'm personally sort of OK with the idea. I mean, no one actually LIKES having stupid cords sticking out of their ears. I just don't think the wireless and battery technologies are there yet to make this experience truly enjoyable.
Luckily for Apple, they have enough fanboys that they can #courage ahead with an immature technology like this. Long term, this is yet another Apple move that will be seen as "visionary" and "ahead of its time". Just because Apple users are willing to eat the shit that Samsung users wouldn't.
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I'm kinda lost here. Why do people want thinner phones ? I have an okayish thin phone and I don't see any reason why I would need an even thinner phone. What the fuck is going on ?
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@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Speaking of (via Ars Technica):
beam-forming mice reduce external noise
... awesome, I had no idea those squeaky little critters could do something like that.
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@pydsigner said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@accalia said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
that's about the most user hostile thing they could do apart from make the phone fatally electrocute people at random
Didn't that one happen already?
That was about setting people on fire. Electrocution by smartphone is still kind of a pioneering field.
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@Sumireko said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
What's the next move, you ask? Why of course, thin client phones! Fuck data limits, we'll just stick everything on the "iCloud"!
I think we've all seen that one before. You start with a thin client, but then you inevitably end up adding a scripting language so you can do simple things like animations client-side, and then processors get better and better so people end up doing more stuff on the client, and then finally you just end up treating the simple scripting language as a full-fledged software platform.
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@anonymous234 said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
I think we've all seen that one before. You start with a thin client, but then you inevitably end up adding a scripting language so you can do simple things like animations client-side, and then processors get better and better so people end up doing more stuff on the client, and then finally you just end up treating the simple scripting language as a full-fledged software platform.
... and then someone makes a thin client for that software platform and the cycle is ready to begin again.
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@RandomStranger said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@anonymous234 said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
I think we've all seen that one before. You start with a thin client, but then you inevitably end up adding a scripting language so you can do simple things like animations client-side, and then processors get better and better so people end up doing more stuff on the client, and then finally you just end up treating the simple scripting language as a full-fledged software platform.
... and then someone makes a thin client for that software platform and the cycle is ready to begin again.
And this, my friends, is why we have JavaScript operating systems running in web browsers written in JavaScript instead of nice things.
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@pydsigner It's
turtlesJavaScript all the way down!
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@masonwheeler said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@kt_ said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Huh, maybe tomorrow when I have a moment, I'll try and combine all of those posts where I was in this thread called an idiot or similar, simply for enjoying my phone.
I didn't call you an idiot, I called you an iDiot. (The stylish capitalization is very important!)
Touché, sir.
Btw, should it be pronounced as iDeeot?
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@pydsigner said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Sennheiser's cheap stuff has a higher quality ceiling than what Bluetooth will give you anyways.
My Sennheisers are among the better features of my working environment.
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@accalia said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
well fuck. that's about the most user hostile thing they could do apart from make the phone fatally electrocute people at random.
Or BURN them to death by exploding battery!!!
Oh - that's Samsung. As you were...
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@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
voice accelerometers detect source of your voice and beam-forming mice reduce external noise, according to Apple
That's not quite what the article says at the moment...
@Tsaukpaetra said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
voice accelerometers detect source of your voice
WTH does that even mean?
It's the latest iBollocks. Yours for only $159 (or £159 or €159....)
@FrostCat said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
How much does it cost to repair your out-of-warranty iPhone?
What's an "out-of-warranty iPhone"? I thought they were supposed to be replaced, with the latest version, half-way through the warranty period?
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@cartman82 said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/773655522528550912
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@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@izzion Apple claims that Bluetooth isn't good enough for that, that it "has limitations" (the limitation being that they can't lock it down so only their hardware works) so they have to have a custom chip for that.
Apple definitely does lock down their bluetooth, though that applies to device-specific protocols, not the standard HFP and A2DP. If you want to develop an application that communicates with special device from iOS, you need to have the bluetooth chip in the device to be Apple-approved.
I would even suspect they don't actually have a custom chip, just a custom bluetooth profile or wireless protocol.
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@stillwater stop making phones thinner and instead make the battery bigger
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@stillwater stop making phones thinner and instead make the battery bigger
+1 only because I can't + more than that.
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@stillwater stop making phones thinner and instead make the battery bigger
this, this, a thounsand times this.
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@PJH said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@ChaosTheEternal said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
voice accelerometers detect source of your voice and beam-forming mice reduce external noise, according to Apple
That's not quite what the article says at the moment...
That's what it said when I copied it from the article. I actually didn't even notice it.
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@bb36e said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
stop making phones thinner and instead make the battery bigger
When I got my S5, I got one of these:
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@PJH
Wow:
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@PJH said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Yours for only $159 (or £159 or €159....)
More like 179€, at least here in Germany...
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@bb36e You know if Jobs were still alive he'd be pushing a phone thickness of 2mm.
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@Akko said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@PJH said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
Yours for only $159 (or £159 or €159....)
More like 179€, at least here in Germany...
One of us! @area_deu
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I think it's time to post this again
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@FrostCat said in Apple's newest iPhone, 2016:
@bb36e You know if Jobs were still alive he'd be pushing a phone thickness of 2mm.
As Richard Stallman infamously put it, I'm not happy he's dead but I'm glad he's gone.
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@aliceif One of us! One of us! I don't know why, but somehow it always makes me happy to find out that somebody else on teh interwebz is German XD