Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@Benjamin-Hall Yeah, we usually have the problem the other way around - namely that the stuff works way too good, even after being buried in the ground for decades (that is, the actual explosive. The detonator is another story...)
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@Rhywden I've heard that primers get bad, and where bad means volatile. And that's bad for buried explosives.
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@Benjamin-Hall The worst primers are the acid-based ones. Those are literal time bombs. Older ones also tend to explode spontaneously if you look at them in a funny way.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Older ones also tend to explode spontaneously if you look at them in a funny way.
Marriage, eh? What can you do?
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@hungrier said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
guySome random dude I never heard of
If you don't know SMBC you're missing out
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Benjamin-Hall The worst primers are the acid-based ones. Those are literal time bombs. Older ones also tend to explode spontaneously if you look at them in a funny way.
A few weeks ago (before the corona thing hit hard) they had a big thing because they'd found a V1 during preparatory work to widen the A1 highway near Deventer. They evacuated 1.5km around when they went in to dismantle it.
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@mikehurley said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
How long does ammo stay good?
Long enough that World War I ammunition that is dug up almost daily is both still relatively stable, e.g. farmers just move it to the road side, but has still enough bang that it has to be disposed of properly. Normal ammunition causes few issues, the chemical agents are a different can of worms.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Because of coronavirus,
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Why show a prescription bottle of something he DIDN'T ingest?
Here....I'll do your work FOR you since you're incapable.
THIS is what he POISONED HIMSELF WITH pic.twitter.com/VbESFsTX7F
— The new Reality (@_Theproletariat) March 24, 2020
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@HardwareGeek It was this picture:
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I've shot military ammo that is half a century old and it was fine.
I wonder about the modern stuff.
Back when I was studying, we were invited to the shareholder/general meeting of one of the big companies in the area. The company does a lot of different stuff, and has a foot in military equipment and ammunitions. They show of (props) of some of the stuff at the meetings. This included the training version of a single-use anti-tank RPG. Scope was replaced by a display, and the device was connected to a computer and a few screens, which would simulate what happens once you pull the trigger (since it was guided/guideable by the user after launch). Great piece to show off and let shareholders (and students) play around with.
Either way, you also got to talk to some of the people involved in the various projects. The one question that one of my friends came up with was about the environmental impact of said single-use anti-tank RPG - after all, you fire the thing and throw the rest away. Ridiculous question or not - apparently that was indeed something they had thought about, and many of the parts were biodegradable.
More interestingly, apparently they use specifically biodegradable explosives in most of their devices. We were told that the explosives will essentially decay into fertilizer if left unexploded in nature within a reasonably short time.
(For some reason that conversation has been staying with me ever since.)
</random tangent>
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
More interestingly, apparently they use specifically biodegradable explosives in most of their devices. We were told that the explosives will essentially decay into fertilizer if left unexploded in nature within a reasonably short time.
That may be the difference between being in the soil and being in a cartridge. Gunpowder makes great, but expensive, fertilizer. I've heard people mention screwing up and accidentally mixing powders and spreading it out in their garden.
It's all just chemistry and gunpowder is high in nitrogen. Hell, nitrogen fertilizer, a bit of diesel fuel and a concrete mixer and you can make ANFO.
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
We were told that the
explosivesvirus will essentially decay intofertilizerdeath if left unexploded in nature within a reasonably short time.FTF
YT.
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@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
That may be the difference between being in the soil and being in a cartridge.
From my memory, it sounded like they were thinking of unexploded munitions, i.e., the stuff from WW2 that people occasionally dig up/stumble across (and then, depending on location, suddenly becomes a big deal).
Now I'm tempted to see if I can revive one of my slowly dying plants with gunpowder as fertilizer. (Yes, watering it more regularly would probably be easier, less costly and more effective, but that's entirely besides the point.)
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Now I'm tempted to see if I can revive one of my slowly dying plants with gunpowder as fertilizer. (Yes, watering it more regularly would probably be both easier and more effective, but that's entirely besides the point.)
Fertilizing a plant that is under stress due to lack of water probably won't revive it and may have the opposite effect. Fix the lack of water first; once it's reasonably healthy, then fertilize it.
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
From my memory, it sounded like they were thinking of unexploded munitions, i.e., the stuff from WW2 that people occasionally dig up/stumble across (and then, depending on location, suddenly becomes a big deal).
Yeah, and if you toe the line between "biodegrades when in the Earth" and "decomposes sitting on a shelf at an Army base" it is feasible to do both. But I wouldn't want to bet my country's freedom on it.
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I don't brag on my boys enough, so allow me to do so.
Today I sent out an email. I had decided to reach out to clients and let them know that anything they had on their dispose/recycle list I would come pick up, securely wipe, and get this family in need of a machine for their kids to do remote learning. Schools are closed, libraries are closed, and kids have to do their best to continue their education and some families can't afford a laptop for this.
Well, support was higher than I expected. So I asked for volunteers. I gladly said that no one is expected to do so. It will count as neither positive or negative but anyone that did so got first dibs for anyone they knew of in need.
Everyone is chipping in. They all asked which ones they should pick up where. Most don't even have a family in mind that is in need.
Good on them. I hired well. The best response was:
"Sure. I might as well. It's not like I can go pick up chicks right now."
Which if you knew him, is hilarious. I love the guy and all, and it's none of my business, but I bet the last chick he picked up asked him to leave money on the dresser.
Not that I judge.....
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
And that's bad for buried explosives.
Worse for when you dig them up. Explosive disposal is done preferably by burying the offending device in sand and blowing up a small explosive charge next to it.
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@mikehurley said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Polygeekery
but just like a vegan you already informed us of your position on this issue so the comparison standsI laughed because it's true. Lots of shooters are bitching about ammo shortages, just like a smug vegan I point out without being solicited that it will be a couple of years before I have to worry.
How long does ammo stay good? I assume a while but I'd guess less than 10 years.
Here’s a playlist with some videos to give you an impression of that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8gO39Lxpb8&list=PL9e3UCcU00TSkij_r-qCqwMq-3NsLb--U
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Benjamin-Hall The worst primers are the acid-based ones. Those are literal time bombs. Older ones also tend to explode spontaneously if you look at them in a funny way.
A few weeks ago (before the corona thing hit hard) they had a big thing because they'd found a V1 during preparatory work to widen the A1 highway near Deventer. They evacuated 1.5km around when they went in to dismantle it.
That’s a somewhat different issue than small arms ammunition, though. The danger is usually not so much that the explosives have become unstable (though they may have) but that the detonators are armed, have partially functioned because of the impact with the ground, and/or have rotted away far enough that they may function when the bomb is being dismantled. (I don’t think the V-1’s warhead had detonators with anti-removal devices, which is another major concern with unexploded aerial bombs — basically, these are detonators designed so they will function when they’re being removed from the bomb.)
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Google cancels april fools
(Dutch link references businessinsider.com as a source, but while their link is in English it is paywalled).
I'm not sure I agree with this. Tech company april fools jokes are not harmful in this age, and there's little enough light-heartedness nowadays.
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@PleegWat What if April Fool's cancellation is the April Fool's prank?
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Shower thought: Even if we learn nothing else from this crisis (and I hope we do!), it's an interesting opportunity to study modern propaganda and the behavior of the general public. The different communication strategies of different world leaders are particularly interesting: We're seeing everything from classic suppression of information (mostly China, Iran) and appeals to national unity and patriotism (main strategy in many European countries) to blaming foreign countries and multi-national organizations (e.g. in the US). And as usual in times of crisis, all of these seem to work quite well.
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
all of these seem to work quite well*.
* For specific definitions of "well".
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
there's little enough light-heartedness nowadays.
It’s all “showing support for the heroes” these days, and while I don’t think showing your appreciation for something or someone is wrong, by now there’s a second pandemic going on, of all these supposedly spontaneous but very organised outbursts of showing support … A bit less of that and a few more jokes instead would be a good thing, IMHO.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Ritni Otvor IV
Bonus points for the naming. Řitní Otvor = Butt Hole¹.
¹ The translator says “anus”, which is correct, just “butt hole” is more literal.
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@Zerosquare The question for me personally would be if an actual TBC infection works as well - if so I'm in luck!
(Well, wasn't quite so lucky some 42 years ago but, then again, I survived)
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@dfdub said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Shower thought: Even if we learn nothing else from this crisis (and I hope we do!), it's an interesting opportunity to study modern propaganda and the behavior of the general public. The different communication strategies of different world leaders are particularly interesting: We're seeing everything from classic suppression of information (mostly China, Iran) and appeals to national unity and patriotism (main strategy in many European countries) to blaming foreign countries and multi-national organizations (e.g. in the US). And as usual in times of crisis, all of these seem to work quite well.
Different groups of people respond differently to the same strategy as well. Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
Are you sure you're not actually French?
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@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
Are you sure you're not actually French?
We had a long period of wanting to be french, hell, we even imported french royalty.
But the Swedish aversion to authority is a fairly old tradition.
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Argentina has just extended lockdown until April 13th.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
I would categorize the Swedish approach as "smart" or "pragmatic" rather than "annoying".
@Zerosquare said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Are you sure you're not actually French?
Surely the French would just surrender and accept the new authority?
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@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
extended lockdown until
Makes you wonder how long until extension does more harm than good...
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@cvi said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The one question that one of my friends came up with was about the environmental impact of said single-use anti-tank RPG - after all, you fire the thing and throw the rest away. Ridiculous question or not - apparently that was indeed something they had thought about, and many of the parts were biodegradable.
Every industry is bound to get infected at least once by that particular mental illness. No matter how ridiculous.
Another example: Mercedes used biodegradable wiring in their cars during 1993-1996.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
extended lockdown until
Makes you wonder how long until extension does more harm than good...
How long do you have stocks of medical supplies for? Minus the time it takes to get manufactoring and distribution back up to speed, of course.
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@Unperverted-Vixen said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
I would categorize the Swedish approach as "smart" or "pragmatic" rather than "annoying".
Tell that to foreign employers. They tend to get annoyed with he querolous Swedes.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
And I heard a comment that "We don't need to make it a law, we just need to make it a recommendation and us Swedes will follow it like if it was a law because we listen to authority."
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@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
And I heard a comment that "We don't need to make it a law, we just need to make it a recommendation and us Swedes will follow it like if it was a law becpause we listen to authority."
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
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@acrow said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@magnusmaster said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
extended lockdown until
Makes you wonder how long until extension does more harm than good...
How long do you have stocks of medical supplies for? Minus the time it takes to get manufactoring and distribution back up to speed, of course.
My house is a level 1 apothecary, so a while I suppose...
Oh, you didn't mean "you" personal, sorry...
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
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@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
Yeah, politicians are generally a useless bunch. Particularly the ones that are career politicians and has never done a single day of honest work.
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There was another call this weekend to, basically, ensure you eat healthily and get enough exercise.
I actually think I'm good on that. Being able to get dinner going at 16:30 and then finish up work while it cooks is much more conductive to healthy dinners than coming home at 17:30 and just wanting to eat. Now.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
Yeah, politicians are generally a useless bunch. Particularly the ones that are career politicians and has never done a single day of honest work.
Why don't you do it then? Anyone can be an armchair general!
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Anyone can be an armchair general!
Fits the requirements exactly.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
Yeah, politicians are generally a useless bunch. Particularly the ones that are career politicians and has never done a single day of honest work.
Why don't you do it then? Anyone can be an armchair general!
Because I am exceptionally bad at toeing the party line and there is not a single party that would suit me.
Not counting that I prefer to do real work, not sit in meetings all days long doing fuck all.
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Us Swedes are an annoying bunch that tend to respond to authority with "why" for instance.
Apparently your own government tells you to:
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
Yeah, politicians are generally a useless bunch. Particularly the ones that are career politicians and has never done a single day of honest work.
Why don't you do it then? Anyone can be an armchair general!
Because I am exceptionally bad at toeing the party line and there is not a single party that would suit me.
Not counting that I prefer to do real work, not sit in meetings all days long doing fuck all.Yeah, and with that attitude, that it's not "real work" you never will change anything.
And it not being "real work"? Maybe talk to actual politicians about that. You may be surprised.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Atazhaia said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeeaaah. I prefer not having lots of useless laws that people won't follow anyway. And people don't follow laws they don't agree with where the risk of detection or punishment is sufficiently low. Such as jaywalking, speed limits and a lot of other examples.
Our politicians will keep making useless laws that people wont follow, though. It's their job! Because it's more important to do something flashy where it looks like you're solving a problem instead of actually solving the problem. And in the best case it will only make it slightly harder to solve the actual problem you're trying to solve.
Yeah, politicians are generally a useless bunch. Particularly the ones that are career politicians and has never done a single day of honest work.
Why don't you do it then? Anyone can be an armchair general!
Because I am exceptionally bad at toeing the party line and there is not a single party that would suit me.
Not counting that I prefer to do real work, not sit in meetings all days long doing fuck all.Yeah, and with that attitude, that it's not "real work" you never will change anything.
And it not being "real work"? Maybe talk to actual politicians about that. You may be surprised.
My mother is a politician, and i talk to her on occasion. I know far more about the workings of politics than is good for sanity.