WTF Bites



  • @ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:

    'fuck that', with no sexual connotation

    If it ever happens that Lojban actually becomes commonly used by some community, "oiho" will be the first word to become obsolete.

    it's actually spelled oi'o but I spelled a quarter of the word in capital letters (OIhO) to demonstrate that lojban doesn't need apostrophes

    (yes, h is a capital letter)

    ⬇🚣♂ because logjam.


  • Java Dev

    Seen on one of the bus pass self-service kiosks:

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  • Notification Spam Recipient

    "Optional update delivery is not working." Therefore, you're a pirate! Because everyone knows only pirates reject optional updates! 🚎


  • Banned

    @Atazhaia maybe it's a counterfeit kiosk, printing counterfeit tickets?


  • BINNED

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    "Optional update delivery is not working." Therefore, you're a pirate! Because everyone knows only pirates reject optional updates! 🚎

    I love how in other parts it blatantly says your software is not genuine (maybe only the German translation).


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    "Optional update delivery is not working." Therefore, you're a pirate! Because everyone knows only pirates reject optional updates! 🚎

    I love how in other parts it blatantly says your software is not genuine (maybe only the German translation).

    No, it uses that program to put it there in English too.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @Atazhaia maybe it's a counterfeit kiosk, printing counterfeit tickets?

    For riding counterfeit buses so you can go to counterfeit places?


  • Banned

    @cvi #faketaxi


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi #faketaxi

    NSFW


  • Banned

    Ubuntu 16.04, Firefox 72: I accidentally discovered that when scrolling fast with touchpad so the page keeps going for a couple seconds after lifting my fingers - and I press Ctrl while it's still scrolling, it starts zooming in/out instead.

    No repro on Windows.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    Ubuntu 16.04, Firefox 72: I accidentally discovered that when scrolling fast with touchpad so the page keeps going for a couple seconds after lifting my fingers - and I press Ctrl while it's still scrolling, it starts zooming in/out instead.

    No repro on Windows.

    Probably the 16.04 is using the deprecated synaptics driver. This one have implemented kinetic scrolling. This link in particular has a link to this bugreport. TL;DR of which: kinetic scrolling being implemented in synaptics turned out to be a design error. It led to nasty bugs, such as that if you scrolled, and pressed Ctrl before scroll stopped, the app you're scrolling would trigger zoom-in or zoom-out. It's because kinetic scrolling is implemented by continuous sending of scrolling events, and the app have no way to differ real and fake scroll events.

    TD;DR: Since the kinetic part is implemented in the driver, it's sending the scroll events blindly, leading to this behavior. Not present in 18.04 .



  • This will probably turn out to be a "TRWTF is me" moment, but here goes.

    1. (Trivial) If you go to https://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.xsd, and save it as a file, you will get a DTD, rather than an XSD.

    2. If you save the code on the visible page instead (omitting the top line "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.", of course) it is not valid XML. The cause of this is the text at line 37 that contains a <documentation> tag without a closing tag.


  • Banned

    @jinpa said in WTF Bites:

    1. (Trivial) If you go to https://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.xsd, and save it as a file, you will get a DTD, rather than an XSD.

    It seems to be some weird DTD/XSD hybrid. I wasn't even sure if it was a valid XML at first, but it seems it is. (Except for missing closing tags, that is.) It's best not to think about it too much, I guess.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    It's best not to think about it too much, I guess.

    My long standing philosophy towards XML.



  • @jinpa said in WTF Bites:

    1. (Trivial) If you go to https://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.xsd, and save it as a file, you will get a DTD, rather than an XSD.

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    It seems to be some weird DTD/XSD hybrid.

    Nothing weird about it. XML always supported embedding own DTD, so that's what they do here. It is a valid XML document.

    @jinpa said in WTF Bites:

    1. If you save the code on the visible page instead (omitting the top line "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.", of course) it is not valid XML. The cause of this is the text at line 37 that contains a <documentation> tag without a closing tag.

    It is a document “tree”. It omits closing tags for readability. The original document is valid according to xmllint:

    $ xmllint --noout --schema /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd                                      
    /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd validates
    

    Strangely enough, xmllint does not succeed in validating it against the embedded DTD:

    $ xmllint --noout --valid /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd
    tmp/XMLSchema.xsd:67: warning: failed to load external entity "/tmp/XMLSchema.dtd"
            ]>
              ^
    /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd:68: element schema: validity error : No declaration for attribute xmlns:xs of element schema
    " xml:lang="EN" xmlns:hfp="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-hasFacetAndProperty"
                                                                                   ^
    /tmp/XMLSchema.xsd:68: element schema: validity error : No declaration for attribute xmlns:hfp of element schema
    " xml:lang="EN" xmlns:hfp="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-hasFacetAndProperty"
    …
    

  • Banned

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    Nothing weird about it. XML always supported embedding own DTD, so that's what they do here.

    "Always been there" doesn't preclude "weird". Example: C++ array reference type syntax.

    Also, what I thought were missing closing tags turned out to be closing tags at the end of the last line instead of in a new line. Even though opening tags are on separate lines. WHY!?



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    WHY!?

    Because excavator!



  • I know it's weird but I keep thinking about to a casual comment that I overheard at last christmas' extended family gathering.

    Because kids nowadays don't carry any cash, they just use the credit card for everything, and I don't understand why they do that

    Now if you have practical or moral objections to using credit cards for all transactions, that's one thing. But, she seemed actually confused by it. And I'm confused by her confusion. They use credit cards because they... work. And they take up less space in the pocket. What's not to get?



  • @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

    I know it's weird but I keep thinking about to a casual comment that I overheard at last christmas' extended family gathering.

    Because kids nowadays don't carry any cash, they just use the credit card for everything, and I don't understand why they do that

    Now if you have practical or moral objections to using credit cards for all transactions, that's one thing. But, she seemed actually confused by it. And I'm confused by her confusion. They use credit cards because they... work. And they take up less space in the pocket. What's not to get?

    Is it like an ear-worm, or is it that you've gone two full months without hearing anyone else use a phrase that was not absolutely precise and accurate, that was like an expression?


  • Banned

    @anonymous234 it's possible she wondered why parents would let their kids rack up debt at will, momentarily forgetting that debit cards exist.



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @anonymous234 it's possible she wondered why parents would let their kids rack up debt at will, momentarily forgetting that debit cards exist.

    There's also "secured cards" which require a deposit to work. Which have the advantage of working like a normal credit card otherwise (advantage in the US, that is, where this weird thing called a "credit score" is a thing)


  • sekret PM club

    @Tsaukpaetra Reminds me, someone should probably bitch at whomever builds that particular site and get them to fix the search function so that you don't have to prefix every search term with # to get the dropdown list to show up...



  • @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi #faketaxi

    📎: Are you searching for Uber?


  • :belt_onion:

    @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    @El_Heffe When I first read your post I wanted to say that's stupid advice, but it seems to be the only way to bypass the data leak I just described above.

    Even without this particular problem, using the address bar for searching is stupid, pointless and unnecessary.


  • :belt_onion:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @El_Heffe said in WTF Bites:

    @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

    @levicki You can press the down arrow after typing the thing to search on google.

    Or, even better, don't be stupid.

    Create a bookmark for Google.com (or whatever search engine you prefer) and whenever you want to search for something, just click on your bookmark

    What is this, 2001?

    Many things that were perfectly fine in 2001 are still perfectly fine today.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @El_Heffe said in WTF Bites:

    @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    @El_Heffe When I first read your post I wanted to say that's stupid advice, but it seems to be the only way to bypass the data leak I just described above.

    Even without this particular problem, using the address bar for searching is stupid, pointless and unnecessaryconvenient.

    FTF:kneeling_warthog:


  • :belt_onion:

    The creator of the GIF file format is apparently a troll, idiot, or both.

    Steve Wilhite was awarded a life-time achievement award at the Webbys, where he stirred up a mini-controversy by telling the world that GIF is pronounced like the peanut butter brand Jif, not like "gift."

    So, GIF is an acronym for Jraphic Interchange Format

    :facepalm:



  • No, browser, I don't want you to search Google for http://someinternalserver/, it's a URL and I want you to treat it like a URL and just open up the damn URL!


  • Considered Harmful

    @mott555 Add a slash at the end and it'll do it.



  • @El_Heffe said in WTF Bites:

    The creator of the GIF file format is apparently a troll, idiot, or both.

    Steve Wilhite was awarded a life-time achievement award at the Webbys, where he stirred up a mini-controversy by telling the world that GIF is pronounced like the peanut butter brand Jif, not like "gift."

    So, GIF is an acronym for Jraphic Interchange Format

    :facepalm:

    Well, it's not the first time GIFs have stirred up controversy. Remember in 1999, when some company no one had ever heard of showed up out of nowhere and announced they held a patent on the LZW technology that GIFs were built upon, and everyone on the entire Internet had better pay up?

    This spawned a massive backlash which ended up with a bunch of very talented computer graphics folks inventing a new, patent-free image format to replace the GIF. They called it PNG, and it became very ubiquitous very quickly. The GIF format was relegated to obscurity for many years, until its toxic patent finally expired, which has since led to a resurgence in the usage of GIFs.

    But for a long time, they were considered toxic across the entirety of the Web. And thus arose the phrase, "beware geeks bearing GIFs."


  • Fake News

    @Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:

    But for a long time, they were considered toxic across the entirety of the Web. And thus arose the phrase, "beware geeks bearing GIFs."

    You know where the "bad pun thread" is... :facepalm:



  • @Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:

    And thus arose the phrase, "beware geeks bearing GIFs."

    ITYM "beware jeeks bearing JIFs".


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    Status: What is the purpose of this code?

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    It appears to be taking the current millisecond, dividing it by 10, then turning that into the Z component, which (not pictured) it adds to the Original Position vector.

    Is it to try and simulate some kind of bounce? :wtf_owl:



  • @Tsaukpaetra It's not going to bounce; it's going to count upwards to 100, then reset abruptly to 0. If a bounce is what's wanted, it might be best to use a sine function or similar.


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    @Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra It's not going to bounce; it's going to count upwards to 100, then reset abruptly to 0. If a bounce is what's wanted, it might be best to use a sine function or similar.

    Right, but still... why?

    I think this is a hack to a problem not commented on anywhere...



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Right, but still... why?

    Good question. This looks like some sort of Shader Graph-type thing that you'd find in a game engine. Try running the scene in question and observing what the object that this is attached to does. Then disable this graph, run it again, and see if you can tell the difference.



  • @Tsaukpaetra what's the scale? How far (in the game scale) is 100 units (the maximum it will go, once per second)? Are we talking "flying into the sky"? or "slightly bobbing?"


  • Fake News

    @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    Maybe it is animating running light?

    Bonus points if it imitates a Jacob's Ladder (and that would even explain why it's in the Z direction, assuming that's "upwards").

    https://youtu.be/tnpp8ZHQttA?t=13


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    @Mason_Wheeler said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Right, but still... why?

    Good question. This looks like some sort of Shader Graph-type thing that you'd find in a game engine. Try running the scene in question and observing what the object that this is attached to does. Then disable this graph, run it again, and see if you can tell the difference.

    The collision box moves up about a meter like so.

    @Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra what's the scale? How far (in the game scale) is 100 units (the maximum it will go, once per second)? Are we talking "flying into the sky"? or "slightly bobbing?"

    I believe UE4 is in centimeters.

    @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra Maybe it is animating running light?

    Or worse yet, maybe it is a hack to trigger collision detection if an object spawns intersecting another?

    I think maybe the second, since it's more specifically supposed to detect the presence of a procedurally-generated static mesh, which doesn't always (actually, usually doesn't ever) collide with shit properly...

    @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    if it imitates a Jacob's Ladder

    Given a proper mesh...



  • @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Bonus points if it imitates a Jacob's Ladder (and that would even explain why it's in the Z direction, assuming that's "upwards").

    Another good Jacob's Ladder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJztRnDxdM8


  • BINNED

    @levicki said in WTF Bites:

    Or worse yet, maybe it is a hack to trigger collision detection if an object spawns intersecting another?

    That... wow, you've seen some evil things.


  • BINNED

    restart firefox.png

    You fucking what now?!
    Open the damn URL I typed and don't give me this shooting aliens shit. 👿 🍊 :angry: :mlp_angry:


  • 🚽 Regular

    @topspin And that's why I have "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" selected in my preferences.

    I've noticed that when I allow it to update in the background sometimes things break in subtle ways, like videos no longer playing, until I restart it.

    Not opening a new page is new though.


  • BINNED

    @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin And that's why I have "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" selected in my preferences.

    I have never seen this before, though. I think it just got confused and displayed something unrelated. ☹

    firefox_updates.png



  • @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin And that's why I have "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" selected in my preferences.

    I've noticed that when I allow it to update in the background sometimes things break in subtle ways, like videos no longer playing, until I restart it.

    Not opening a new page is new though.

    Nah, it's been around for several years now. Of course if you're on Ubuntu you are using Canonical Firefox (rather than Mozilla Firefox) where "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" doesn't exist in the preferences.



  • @Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF Bites:

    Of course if you're on Ubuntu you are using Canonical Firefox (rather than Mozilla Firefox) where "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" doesn't exist in the preferences.

    Mozilla packaged as .deb does not (fortunately) have permissions to update itself; there is the unattended-updates to do that system-wide though, so you might want to tweak that.


  • Java Dev

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF Bites:

    Of course if you're on Ubuntu you are using Canonical Firefox (rather than Mozilla Firefox) where "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" doesn't exist in the preferences.

    Mozilla packaged as .deb does not (fortunately) have permissions to update itself; there is the unattended-updates to do that system-wide though, so you might want to tweak that.

    Where firefox on windows has the "You really should restart for updates now" warnings if the auto-updater found a new version, firefox on ubuntu instead has a "You can't navigate, you must restart first" if the system updated. Though those restarts are faster than the windows ones which need to actually do the update too.



  • @PleegWat Which is strange because I don't remember it doing that and I do have Ubuntu here. I sometimes restarted it because things started breaking after update, but it didn't just say it won't work.


  • Java Dev

    @levicki Power to you.



  • @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @Steve_The_Cynic said in WTF Bites:

    Of course if you're on Ubuntu you are using Canonical Firefox (rather than Mozilla Firefox) where "Check for updates but let you choose to install them" doesn't exist in the preferences.

    Mozilla packaged as .deb does not (fortunately) have permissions to update itself; there is the unattended-updates to do that system-wide though, so you might want to tweak that.

    Where firefox on windows has the "You really should restart for updates now" warnings if the auto-updater found a new version, firefox on ubuntu instead has a "You can't navigate, you must restart first" if the system updated. Though those restarts are faster than the windows ones which need to actually do the update too.

    Dunno. On my Ubuntu (18.04 LTS), Firefox puts up the thrice-cursed notification and then quits when I press the Restart button. It doesn't restart.


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