WTF Bites


  • kills Dumbledore

    @thegoryone I'm sure I've ranted on here before about the time Scottish power needed to close my account and open a new one on the same meter, estimated that I'd used £300 of gas in the week between my last meter reading and doing the switch, then took over 2 months to understand my issue that I hadn't been burning gas straight out of the inlet pipe for that week.

    At one point they tried to change my direct debit to £1200 a month to cover it


  • BINNED

    @blek said in WTF Bites:

    It's German too, aren't Germans supposed to be competent?

    :rofl:

    It would be faster to demolish our current attempt to build an airport, ship the land to China, let China build an airport on it and ship it back, then to wait for them to "fix" the current buildings. It is downright embarrassing.


  • BINNED

    @topspin Oh yeah, I remember reading about that. It's still not open even though it was supposed to be done in 2011, right?

    I hear Finland has a nuclear powerplant that went so over budget it's the most expensive buildings ever built, too.



  • @blek 👋 I think we built it. Well, still are building it?

    As well as another similar one in France, which is similarly running waaaaaaay over schedule and budget.

    And yet the same company managed to sell not only one, but two of those to the British. You have to wonder who's the most inept, the company who twice showed it can't do on time/money, or the government who still contracted them to build another two. :thonking:


  • BINNED

    @blek said in WTF Bites:

    It's still not open even though it was supposed to be done in 2011, right?

    Yeah, Wikipedia tells me it started in 2006 and was supposed to be done by 2011. The delays are now longer than the original schedule and the Chinese would probably build that whole thing (in shit quality and killing a few useless peonsworkers, but on time) in maybe 2 years. Current plan says 2020, but it's been postponed so many times that my personal estimate is max(brexit, heat_death_of_the_universe).

    There's even a website that charts the current costs:


  • Considered Harmful

    I ran this installer. It popped a dialog that said "Installing, please wait."

    Underneath that (it can't even be moved in front of the please wait, because that's always-on-top) it popped up an error dialog that installation failed.

    I didn't find it until I got bored enough to idly drag the "Please wait" dialog to the side.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @aitap said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    Apparently my newfangled dashcam (Rexing V1LG) records GPS inside the video.

    The one I have stores a third stream (in addition to video and audio) that's just plain text. Maybe yours is also doing something simple? What would mediainfo say?

    Will check after a test run. 👍


  • Fake News

    @blek said in WTF Bites:

    It's German too, aren't Germans supposed to be competent?

    It seems there's a bit of confusion here. Germans simply do what's expected of them, take things seriously and are very thorough about it.

    So now you should be able to figure out what happens when they're in a sector where it's expected to be incompetent. :trollface: 🇩🇪



  • @JBert said in WTF Bites:

    Germans simply do what's expected of them

    I don't know if Germans can do anything simply


  • Fake News

    @hungrier Fixed.


  • BINNED

    @hungrier
    Or with short words



  • @Luhmann said in WTF Bites:

    Or with short words

    Ja


  • BINNED

    @TimeBandit
    Genau


  • ♿ (Parody)

    So, some luser put in a request to my customer (technically their program manager)( to change the name of $thing, which said luser does not have permission to do. So my customer puts in a ticket asking how to do this. He attached a screen shot of the page where you edit $thing with an enabled text box for the name and a save button and everything. Then he sends me an email, "Is it possible to do this?"

    It took a bit of effort to dial back the snark in the email that I started to write.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @blek said in WTF Bites:

    It's German too, aren't Germans supposed to be competent?

    :rofl:

    It would be faster to demolish our current attempt to build an airport, ship the land to China, let China build an airport on it and ship it back, then to wait for them to "fix" the current buildings. It is downright embarrassing.

    To be fair, the airport in Munich took 12 years to build.



  • @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    he sends me an email, "Is it possible to do this?"

    Just reading this makes me want to reply "Yes, it is." and close the ticket. And I don't even do tech support.



  • A different kind of WTF bite:


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @boomzilla said in WTF Bites:

    he sends me an email, "Is it possible to do this?"

    Just reading this makes me want to reply "Yes, it is." and close the ticket. And I don't even do tech support.

    Yeah, what I wrote at first was something along the lines of, "You attached a screenshot of the edit page. It works like just about every other page in the application: change the name and click the save button."



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Just reading this makes me want to reply "Yes, it is." and close the ticket with the status E_USER_IS_AN_IDIOT.

    FTFY


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Just reading this makes me want to reply "Yes, it is." and close the ticket with the status E_USER_IS_AN_IDIOT.

    FTFY

    I can't say that to him. But in his reply he pretty much realized that it was dumb and he should have just done it.


  • BINNED

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Just reading this makes me want to reply "Yes, it is."

    That's two more words than the WTDWTF default reply.


  • :belt_onion:

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    But Quickbooks Online is better, because "the cloud".

    Intuit reached out to me a few times about reselling Quickbooks Online to our clients. They did not like my feedback.

    They'll probably have an even tougher time now:


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @heterodox QuickBooks cloud hosting is different, and third party. Basically a virtual desktop that you remote in to and do your bookkeeping.



  • @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    Basically a virtual desktop that you remote in to and do your bookkeeping

    :trwtf:


  • :belt_onion:

    @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    @heterodox QuickBooks cloud hosting is different, and third party. Basically a virtual desktop that you remote in to and do your bookkeeping.

    ... Fuck that.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @heterodox prior to the era of "cloud" everything, it was pretty popular. We hosted quite a few back in the day. Easy money.

    Probably even easier money if you don't do proper backups and stuff and let your instances get ransomware.



  • @error said in WTF Bites:

    I ran this installer. It popped a dialog that said "Installing, please wait."

    Underneath that (it can't even be moved in front of the please wait, because that's always-on-top) it popped up an error dialog that installation failed.

    I didn't find it until I got bored enough to idly drag the "Please wait" dialog to the side.

    Which reminds me of an annoying UI bite/minor WTF from Windows:

    If an application crashes, you get the "app stopped responding, kill or debug?" prompt (at least I do for the application that I'm developing). Fine. What's not fine, though, is that the prompt 1) appears in front of the main application window, but not necessarily in front of other windows from the same application, and 2) does not have a taskbar entry, nor change the application entry (make it flash or whatever).

    Our application can have, and often has, several windows, and I'm often working on a secondary one that covers all or a large part of the screen. So when it crashes, I get the "busy" cursor, and nothing else. No visible prompt, no taskbar entry. If it crashes during a process that I expect to be fairly long, it sometimes takes me several minutes before realising that something went wrong, click on the main application window to bring it forward and then get the prompt that tells me the application crashed long ago and was waiting for me to act. :facepalm:



  • @blek said in WTF Bites:

    It's German too, aren't Germans supposed to be competent?

    No, Germans are supposed to be organized and orderly. In my experience they often are, too much, even, but at the cost of being flexible. So it works well when things are mostly normal, but when things go wrong, they make a mess of it because the procedures can't cover every possible contingency and they are not used to improvising.



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    A different kind of WTF bite:

    Now that's fucked. Even China does not dare to do that.



  • @Bulb Yes, but unfortunately I can see that this is just a taste of the future. Consider that:

    • China's censorship is raising some eyebrows, but really not that much (a couple high-profile projects from Google or other get cancelled, but nobody really cares, and there is already little high-level talk of "human rights in China", and when there is the internet is way down the list);
    • UK's mandatory porn age verification thing is similarly not raising much opposition (it's technically not yet done and may never really be for technical reasons, but politically I haven't seen much discussion);
    • many companies (mine included) do HTTPS sniffing and no-one bats an eyelid about it (it's all "their network, their rules" and shrugging of shoulders);
    • high-level political talk is of better controlling youtube/facebook/...'s content, i.e. telling them to do the censoring themselves, and while it's not a done thing and there is some pushback, the direction of things is very much towards more restrictions (no trolling please, this isn't the garage...);
    • countries like Russia (and some other in Africa e.g. when there is some unrest) are making sure, and/or showing, that they can cut off the internet entirely at a whim, and again apart from raising some eyebrows there is little that is actually done or said about it (e.g. I haven't seen major Western powers claiming high and loud that access to internet shouldn't be compromised by governments or such, it's again all "your country, your rules");
    • and probably other stuff that I forgot...

    So really, I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before this kind of things becomes the norm everywhere.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length. Not including the line containing the separator.


  • Banned

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length.

    But I don't think the rationale is still relevant today...

    Remember that many people pay for
    connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
    the more they pay.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length.

    But I don't think the rationale is still relevant today...

    Remember that many people pay for
    connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
    the more they pay.

    While metering by the minute is no longer a thing, metering by the byte is - the rationale still holds.

    And is thus, still a viable reason to request that people stop using obnoxious signatures that are typically longer than the typical non-noise part of an email.



  • @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    stop using obnoxious signatures that are [...] longer than the typical non-noise part of an email.

    For a fair portion of the emails I get, this would limit the permissible length of signatures to zero characters. (I'd be OK with that.)


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    Most mice you can buy today are complete crap. Gaming mice are even worse - criminally overpriced crap.
    So, it's really hard to find a decent mouse. But that's not the WTF.

    One of the good ones is Logitech MX Master. It's pretty great actually.
    Care to guess how they named their driver/configuration program?

    Options. They called it "Options".

    It doesn't stay in tray, it doesn't show battery level. FFS. They made a piece of decent hardware so they had to stuff unused WTFs somewhere else.


  • Banned

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length.

    But I don't think the rationale is still relevant today...

    Remember that many people pay for
    connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
    the more they pay.

    While metering by the minute is no longer a thing, metering by the byte is - the rationale still holds.

    Oh, right. USA.


  • BINNED

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length.

    But I don't think the rationale is still relevant today...

    Remember that many people pay for
    connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
    the more they pay.

    While metering by the minute is no longer a thing, metering by the byte is - the rationale still holds.

    And is thus, still a viable reason to request that people stop using obnoxious signatures that are typically longer than the typical non-noise part of an email.

    Metering by the SNR or the time it (potentially) takes me to read all that crap is relevant. 🍹


  • BINNED

    @MrL said in WTF Bites:

    They made a piece of decent hardware so they had to stuff unused WTFs somewhere else.

    They must have misunderstood


  • Banned

    @topspin you read signatures? :doing_it_wrong:


  • BINNED

    @Gąska

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    (potentially)

    No, but I sometimes have to find the body buried under all the signature crap.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska said in WTF Bites:

    @PJH said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Also, isn't there an RFC to limit your email signatures to sane lengths?

    There are 2 relevant RFCs, and the specification is:

    4 lines. A line is 65 max characters length.

    But I don't think the rationale is still relevant today...

    Remember that many people pay for
    connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
    the more they pay.

    While metering by the minute is no longer a thing, metering by the byte is - the rationale still holds.

    Oh, right. USA.

    And UK:

    Screenshot from 2019-07-23 11-00-57.png

    And if that's not enough, you can buy extra:

    Screenshot from 2019-07-23 11-01-44.png


  • BINNED

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    many companies (mine included) do HTTPS sniffing and no-one bats an eyelid about it (it's all "their network, their rules" and shrugging of shoulders);

    even worse ... since a company not doing that might be considered not to have his security on par, possibly resulting in fines after data breaches / gdpr noncompliance.



  • @Luhmann Possibly, yes. Also, I have the feeling that "https everywhere" ironically caused more of this MitM https sniffing. Before it, https was mostly used by site that really needed it (banks and stores and stuff where you logged in), and "regular" traffic (general browsing) was easily monitored as it was http only. Now, if a company wants to have some control on what's happening on their network, since everything is https, they have to MitM it.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    may never really be for technical reasons

    The revelation that all sites that have at least two-thirds non-pornographic content are exempt amuses me a lot. We can look forward to a lot more pictures of cute kittens and puppies, etc.



  • @dkf I did not know that. It will also be interesting to see how "site" is defined. If it's just a domain name then I guess there will be www.hubpron.com and fluff.hubpron.com. If it's just owned by the same company that will be even worse, hubpron.com will simply also own fluff.com or whatever. And the same goes for "2/3", it is by number of files? pages (whatever that means now with dynamic content)? Size? Movies' duration?

    What would be fun is if it's 2/3 by content viewed by each user. "Before you can view a pussy being pounded for 10 min, you must watch 20 min of pussy being petted."



  • The official Razor Pages tutorial is like 70% Entity Framework bullshit.
    What's this? You're here because you want to know Razor template syntax? Or the basics of how pages get compiled to classes and run? Don't be silly! This can wait until after we've seen enough Entity Framework!

    And then, according to the recommended learning path, you're supposed to move on to... guess what... the Entity Framework tutorial. And after that you can read the "Fundamentals" page.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    It will also be interesting to see how "site" is defined.

    It's being defined by the fuckwits that brought you Brexit. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't think that the whole web was a single site…


  • BINNED

    @anonymous234 said in WTF Bites:

    The official Razor Pages tutorial

    What is that, gaming RGB lights for websites? :thonking:


  • BINNED

    @dkf said in WTF Bites:

    @remi said in WTF Bites:

    It will also be interesting to see how "site" is defined.

    It's being defined by the fuckwits that brought you Brexit. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't think that the whole web was a single site…

    I mean, wasn't it the British parliament who asked Babbage that infamous question?


  • BINNED

    Trying to render some simulation results with ParaView. How the fuck does it manage to corrupt the image directly on output? There is no "downloading over unreliable internet connection" in between that might create such shit.

    corrupted_output.png


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