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@dkf Hearing this sort of locked down bullshit makes me wanna reverse engineer this stuff.
It is the only reason I am interested in getting a Nintendo switch is to hack it and then play emulated games and ports. I have no love for Nintendo IP.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
I think we need custom firmwares for TVs. Right now you can still find "non-smart" ones, but I feat they're gonna end-up like cell phones.
Ooh! Custom firmware sounds awesome!
F.lux for TV please.
(too cheap to go the hardware route)
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@sweaty_gammon said in Internet of shit:
Hearing this sort of locked down bullshit makes me wanna reverse engineer this stuff.
The standard way of locking things down is through a chain of code signatures where each stage is only loaded by the previous one if the signature matches. That's fairly hard to defeat if done right. OTOH, it also easily leads to an Ericsson Moment when the expiry dates on the signatures fail.
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@dkf said in Internet of shit:
@sweaty_gammon said in Internet of shit:
Hearing this sort of locked down bullshit makes me wanna reverse engineer this stuff.
The standard way of locking things down is through a chain of code signatures where each stage is only loaded by the previous one if the signature matches. That's fairly hard to defeat if done right. OTOH, it also easily leads to an Ericsson Moment when the expiry dates on the signatures fail.
Almost all the hacks for most locked down devices require you to either
- Use another piece of software that causes an exploit so you can run arbitrary code.
- Push the device into dev / maintenance mode.
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at some point I may see if I can shim burp in there somehow and try to give the grill a bullshit cert.
if my grill does ssl cert pinning I will be impressed.
talking about SSL MITMing my grill is making me want to drink.
Source: @Viss
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
Gotta be smart enough to not buy one.
I hope my dumb TV never diesMy Samsung doesn't show ads.
I was about to say that my LG doesn't either but it turns out it does just they're only on one of the menus I don't use very often. Even then it's only an advert for content available in its own content store.
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@Gąska Déja vu...
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@JBert I have different watermarks, so it's not really a repost
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
You know, most things want to stay on the charger when updating...
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@TimeBandit said in Internet of shit:
I am firmly convinced that the next great global catastrophe will be a worldwide Internet crash after an NPM bug, as a side effect bringing down every stupid "smart" device out there. And there will be violence as people kill each other to steal the last remaining supply of $1 non-IoT toothbrushes.
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@TimeBandit
Trying to update your 'handle' huh?
Wink wink nudge nudge
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@Luhmann iirc we discussed IOT/S dildos in this thread ..
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@swayde
You mean teledildonics?
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@Luhmann nah, not the patent bullshit.
Actual hackable IOT dildos. Not hackable on purpose obviously, but still.
I don't think it was this one, but the same concept
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I got a few days to myself at Xmas. I've got the cables for my TV. I might try hacking the TV.
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@sweaty_gammon said in Internet of shit:
I might try hacking the TV.
Don't forget to report your findings here
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@TimeBandit I will.
I have a 2013 TV I guarantee you they think that the credentials "root" and "password" are the height of security.
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@Gąska
That brought me to https://www.metafetish.com ...
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@topspin said in Internet of shit:
You're still buying from a company that puts rootkits on your computer
Not my computer.
Thanks, Napster!
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Bawk! Alexa, buy me some crackers!
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@JBert Alexa, Polly says her back hurts.
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@JBert said in Internet of shit:
Bawk! Alexa, buy me some crackers!
I'm disappointed there is no clip of the actual audio. Shirley that's available for us to squawk at?
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@Tsaukpaetra Likely the parrot is protected by the GDPR, or whatever the closest British equivalent is.
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@JBert said in Internet of shit:
As a fan of parrots, I'd been waiting for something like this to happen since those things got releasedLooks like they like to control home devices as well:
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
@JBert said in Internet of shit:
As a fan of parrots, I'd been waiting for something like this to happen since those things got releasedLooks like they like to control home devices as well:
Ha! That'll teach them to be silly enough to keep a parrot and stupid enough to automate their lights.
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@mott555 said in Internet of shit:
And there will be violence as people kill each other to steal the last remaining supply of $1 non-IoT toothbrushes.
I have a big stash of those! After each dentist visit, I get a goodie bag with one in it. (I use a SoniCare)
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@swayde said in Internet of shit:
@Luhmann iirc we discussed IOT/S dildos in this thread ..
I vaguely recall a sex toy containing a microphone?..
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@JBert said in Internet of shit:
So what were the reasons the parrot ordered the ice cream?
Crippling depression.
I know why the caged bird sings, after all.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
So what were the reasons the parrot ordered the ice cream?
Maybe he just likes the taste? Those birds have good sense of taste and like eating different foods.
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We disabled local access for security reasons, so we only left cloud access available
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Amazon Germany: "This was an isolated case, it only happened once, pinkie swear!"
https://venturebeat.com/2018/12/20/alexa-glitch-let-a-user-eavesdrop-on-another-home/
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Yes, our guys at @mwrlabs did indeed figure out a way to turn off ALL Twinkly christmas lights in the whole world. https://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/blog/twinkly-twinkly-little-star … #grinch
”...the christmas lights are listening for a UDP broadcast on port 5555 with the message '\x00discover', then respond with their IP address in a UDP response...”
goddamn christmas lights
STOP PUTTING RANDOM STUFF ON THE INTERNETSource: @mikko
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@DCoder said in Internet of shit:
Yes, our guys at @mwrlabs did indeed figure out a way to turn off ALL Twinkly christmas lights in the whole world. https://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/blog/twinkly-twinkly-little-star … #grinch
”...the christmas lights are listening for a UDP broadcast on port 5555 with the message '\x00discover', then respond with their IP address in a UDP response...”
goddamn christmas lights
STOP PUTTING RANDOM STUFF ON THE INTERNETSource: @mikko
I love the fact that they tried to do some kind of Auth. Then completely failed in another part of the application...
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@PleegWat said in Internet of shit:
not-wearing-a-sweater-indoor tax?
Is that a tax for people who wear a sweater indoors, or for people who don’t wear a sweater indoors?
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@Gurth It's a I-hope-it-stays-fictional tax on people who set their thermostat above 18 degrees Celsius.
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@TimeBandit $4.99 to heat your own house? That would be outrageous and no one would buy it.
Now on the other hand, if you added an in-app currency like diamonds, and you could to pay $4.99 for 50 diamonds and buy 6 hours of heat for 20 diamonds, that would be the biggest commercial success of the decade.
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@DCoder and it would have been so easy for them to get a halfway decent clock synchrony going, sign a reduction of the time with their private key, and have the lights validate that against the public key and their time before responding.
If they wanted to control all the lights in the world securely.
This is where you really start to miss NAT.
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@PleegWat said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth It's a I-hope-it-stays-fictional tax on people who set their thermostat above 18 degrees Celsius.
Ah, OK, got it now :) I certainly hope that stays fictional, as I wear a T-shirt all year round but do like to have it about 20 degrees indoors …
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@PleegWat said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth It's a I-hope-it-stays-fictional tax on people who set their thermostat above 18 degrees Celsius.
Ah, OK, got it now :) I certainly hope that stays fictional, as I wear a T-shirt all year round but do like to have it about 20 degrees indoors …
(googles to convert weird units) Yeah, that's the temp I keep the house at too. Except at night when I let it drop to 58F. Love programmable thermostats!
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@dcon said in Internet of shit:
(googles to convert to weird units)
FTFY.
Love programmable thermostats!
Even 35+ years ago my parents had a thermostat with day and night temperature presets and a clock to let it switch automatically.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@dcon said in Internet of shit:
(googles to convert to weird units)
FTFY.
Love programmable thermostats!
Even 35+ years ago my parents had a thermostat with day and night temperature presets and a clock to let it switch automatically.
Yeah, but that one wouldn't reliably stop working in case of a power interruption.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@dcon said in Internet of shit:
(googles to convert to weird units)
FTFY.
Love programmable thermostats!
Even 35+ years ago my parents had a thermostat with day and night temperature presets and a clock to let it switch automatically.
The one I have now is a dumb programmable. Set time/temp and that's when it changes. I had one 25 years ago that you set the time to when you wanted it that temp and the thermostat learned when to start ramping the temp up. (The cost different when I bought this one was significant, so I went with stupid and simple.)
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@Gribnit said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@dcon said in Internet of shit:
(googles to convert to weird units)
FTFY.
Love programmable thermostats!
Even 35+ years ago my parents had a thermostat with day and night temperature presets and a clock to let it switch automatically.
Yeah, but that one wouldn't reliably stop working in case of a power interruption.
Like where I work. Evidently there was a power outage one evening. They had to call in a technician to get the heating system working again. You'd think a 5 story office building would have a better system than that... (the building isn't very old)