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  • 🚽 Regular

    @Tsaukpaetra

    The Property Damage limit selected cannot exceed the Bodily Injury limit.

    "Please raise level of Bodily Injury to correct."

    :headdesk: 🤕


  • 🚽 Regular

    @Cursorkeys said in WTF Bites:

    An ex was an Evolutionary Developmental Biologist, they love to talk about how it's really 'survival of the survivors'.

    I've always read it as "survival of the fittest to survive". 🤷🏿♂


  • Considered Harmful

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska Okay, one last reply: You do realize that we have witnessed both micro- and macro-evolution? And that, before we had gene manipulation, pretty much all of the seed manipulation techniques for plants relied on using radioactivity to induce random mutations to get a beneficial and usable mutation?

    And that the timescales involved are massive?

    Didn't think so.

    I said above, which you must have ignored, that creationists don't doubt that evolution exists and is possible, but simply doubt that it's how the world got into its current state of affairs.


  • Considered Harmful

    @izzion said in WTF Bites:

    Overseen in an e-mail from Azure:

    You’ve reached the daily cap for your app’s telemetry data

    Data for {your app} has hit the 0.0323 GB daily cap. The collection of your app's telemetry data will be stopped until October 2, 2018 19:00 UTC.

    Recommended action: Go to the Azure Portal and follow these instructions to increase the cap. Then, you’ll resume data collection and avoid missing valuable application telemetry data in the future.

    If only there was some system to convert between different units of measure to provide numbers that are reasonably readable while still maintaining appropriate precision 🤔

    If only. But nobody can agree on whether a GB is 1000KB or 1024KB.


  • BINNED

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Gąska Okay, one last reply: You do realize that we have witnessed both micro- and macro-evolution? And that, before we had gene manipulation, pretty much all of the seed manipulation techniques for plants relied on using radioactivity to induce random mutations to get a beneficial and usable mutation?

    And that the timescales involved are massive?

    Didn't think so.

    I said above, which you must have ignored, that creationists don't doubt that evolution exists and is possible, but simply doubt that it's how the world got into its current state of affairs.

    They also think that dinosaur fossils were put in the ground by a magician last thursdayhundreds and hundreds of years ago, so :mlp_shrug:.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljt5iESYA7k



  • @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    But nobody can agree on whether a GB is 1000KB or 1024KB

    That would be MB, not GB :rolleyes:


  • Considered Harmful

    @TimeBandit See? You can't agree either.



  • @pie_flavor What I would agree on is that you suck at storage math :trollface:


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @PleegWat said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra Did you mask half your target URL in 2 out of 3 occurrences?

    So I did. I blame small window size.


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  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

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    Why was I able to do this on literally every other quote wizard then? Whatever...

    Out of curiosity, is car insurance mandatory in the US?
    Because that seems like an awfully low amount, especially considering that in the US bodily injury would easily get an order of magnitude higher for trivial things like spilled coffee.

    My car insurance is, if I'm reading it correctly, capped at €5million.

    Yes. It's also mandatory to have health insurance.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

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    Why was I able to do this on literally every other quote wizard then? Whatever...

    Out of curiosity, is car insurance mandatory in the US?
    Because that seems like an awfully low amount, especially considering that in the US bodily injury would easily get an order of magnitude higher for trivial things like spilled coffee.

    My car insurance is, if I'm reading it correctly, capped at €5million.

    Yes. It's also mandatory to have health insurance.

    Until March 23.



  • @PJH @ben_lubar another autoplaying video with sound. Sigh.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Benjamin-Hall You appear to be yelling a bit to the left of where your colocutor is, teach. I expect nothing better from you, but am still disappointed. You hear "religion != science" and suddenly you are yelling about science not being religion.


  • Java Dev

    Someone needs to remind the Acrobat DC team that it's 2018 and that rebooting the entire computer because Acrobat has updated should not happen period.



  • @Atazhaia They probably were inspired by the best practices demonstrated by the Visual Studio team.



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Atazhaia They probably were inspired by the best practices demonstrated by the Visual Studio team.

    I haven't had to reboot for a Visual Studio update in at least a year.

    I have, however, been forced to reboot for an Adobe Flash update that was provided through Windows Update.



  • @ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:

    I haven't had to reboot for a Visual Studio update in at least a year.

    I hadn't seen it myself for a while either, but then I got waylaid by a gaggle of students who hadn't managed to get started with our labs because the labs wouldn't build in VS. Installing additional packages and/or updating VS mostly resolved the problems. A few people were told to reboot their machines after installing the updates.

    I also learned that apparently you can now install the VS C++ compiler without getting <stddef.h> (which is included by <cstddef> in VS, and rather central to most things C++) and a bunch of other very fundamental C/C++ headers.


  • BINNED

    “Smart” features strike again. I can’t markdown a line anymore because iOS automatically replaces -- with , so I get —- for three dashes.
    At least in Word you can undo stupid replacements with Ctrl+Z.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @marczellm said in Jump to definition:

    I don't understand how Xcode works internally

    It's my understanding that it...doesn't.


  • Notification Spam Recipient

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    “Smart” features strike again. I can’t markdown a line anymore because iOS automatically replaces -- with , so I get —- for three dashes.
    At least in Word you can undo stupid replacements with Ctrl+Z.

    Ah, you do hyphen, space, hyphen, space, then drag the cursor between the two hyphens and delete the first place.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    “Smart” features strike again. I can’t markdown a line anymore because iOS automatically replaces -- with , so I get —- for three dashes.
    At least in Word you can undo stupid replacements with Ctrl+Z.

    Ah, you do hyphen, space, hyphen, space, then drag the cursor between the two hyphens and delete the first place.

    Just Works™



  • @hungrier said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    “Smart” features strike again. I can’t markdown a line anymore because iOS automatically replaces -- with , so I get —- for three dashes.
    At least in Word you can undo stupid replacements with Ctrl+Z.

    Ah, you do hyphen, space, hyphen, space, then drag the cursor between the two hyphens and delete the first place.

    You Just have to do more Works™

    FTFY


  • BINNED

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    “Smart” features strike again. I can’t markdown a line anymore because iOS automatically replaces -- with , so I get —- for three dashes.
    At least in Word you can undo stupid replacements with Ctrl+Z.

    Ah, you do hyphen, space, hyphen, space, then drag the cursor between the two hyphens and delete the first place.

    Guess what I did, and guess what's Way Too Much Work™.

    EDIT: :hanzo:'d^2



  • @ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:

    I haven't had to reboot for a Visual Studio update in at least a year.

    I did. But I did a repair and repair's are special. (See status thread - and I wonder how many other apps will break because the shortname is now gone from my profile directory)


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    My car insurance is due for renewal shortly, and when the renewal details came out I noticed they still had my previous job title.
    I rang them up to change it but while navigating the IVR I remembered it's £25 if I ring them up and ask one of their customer service agents to change it, but if I fill in the online form for one of their customer service agents to change it it's free (:wtf: 0) so I hung up and filled the form in.

    :wtf: 1 - the form has text fields for Employment Status, Job Title, Industry, Total Annual Mileage etc and each one has help text that says "Enter this if it has changed".
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    It's a photo of the screen because I was at work where I'm not logged into here

    Nothing else has changed so I only filled in the Job Title field. Nope. Turns out all the fields are mandatory.

    :wtf: 2 - I got a reply today saying that because I was in the "renewal invitation stage" that I couldn't update my details on the existing policy. This was after a reply yesterday where they asked me to confirm how many miles of my total were business vs personal/commuting, apparently without knowing that they wouldn't be able to actually make the update.

    I now need to ring their renewals department and ask one of their customer service agents to amend it on the renewal for free but it must stay wrong on my current policy.


  • Java Dev

    The Android documentation is drunk methinks...

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  • Overheard in the office: one dev goes to help another on a build issue.

    👨: oh yeah, you have this issue because you build by clicking the Compile button in the IDE, in this specific case (some build case that isn't handled by the IDE), you need to type make instead.
    👨🏻: yeah but the IDE is the method that [myself] gave me and that I have noted in my notes file [yes, really... he has noted that to compile you need to click the Compile button...], I've always done that.
    👨: sure but in this case it does not work because of [valid reasons], what you need in this specific case is just to type make in this terminal that is always opened next to the IDE because you already use it for other tasks.
    👨🏻: I don't know what any of this does, I just always redo what I was told initially and that worked...

    :wtf: ❓

    You're supposed to be a developer, you've been working on that code for literally months if not years, you have years of experience as a developer before, this build system is nothing fancy, and yet you don't even have the slightest idea or intellectual curiosity as to what you do... :headdesk: :headdesk: :headdesk:



  • I absolutely hate having to deal with build processes. I find them invariably clunky, overcomplicated and headache-inducing when they fail to work ; I once told a colleague who pushed a fancy CMake-based process: "I'll use it, but don't expect me to debug it when it breaks."

    But I'd still blame 👨🏻, because there are limits.



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    I absolutely hate having to deal with build processes. I find them invariably clunky, overcomplicated and headache-inducing when they fail to work ; I once told a colleague who pushed a fancy CMake-based process: "I'll use it, but don't expect me to debug it when it breaks."

    But I'd still blame 👨🏻, because there are limits.

    Hey, who needs to worry about build processes? Just send in your pull request and https://buildmaster.lubar.me/ builds it for you.



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    WTF of my day: So, you may have heard about this bit of unrest in a part of Germany called Saxonia. Let's just say that they're ... special. State government and police have a certain aptitude for being short-sighted on the right eye.

    Now the police had a grand new idea to help restore order: They're calling for upright citizens to join the Sächsische Sicherheitswache (Saxonian Security).

    Not a single one of those morons ever thought about what that might just be abbreviated to. :rolleyes:

    Sounds that SA would be a better target to go for.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    I am in the process of switching all my banking for a variety of reasons, chief among them that the current bank royally screwed one of my employees. This morning I had an appointment with the new bank I chose and started to setup the accounts. We go through the first account (and also least important among them), everything goes right through.

    We move on to the next business and it keeps failing and gives the branch manager some cryptic error about the address being in error. This is the same address as the other business, because they all are operated out of my home. After getting passed around to various people she finds out that registering multiple business accounts, in quick succession, with the same address, triggered their fraud prevention systems. I am currently waiting for a call back from the bank when they figure out a way around this because now their system has locked that account application and killing that application and trying it again likely just made the problem worse.

    :headdesk:


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @ben_lubar
    Does that include the costs of all the carrier pidgeons necessary to transfer the pull request to the server and retrieve the build from the server? 🤔


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @Polygeekery
    🕴 Hi, this is the FBI, we're here to investigate claims of money laundering with a business bank account.
    Polygeekery Just a simple bank mix-up since their system isn't set up to handle multiple business entities run from the same address.
    🕴 Yes, yes, I see. But did you throw any ice in bars in the past 35 years?


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @izzion

    🕴 Yes, yes, I see. But did you throw any ice in bars in the past 35 years?
    polygeekery "Possibly. Most of my memories from bars are pretty fuzzy, it is impossible to answer either way with any certainty."



  • @izzion said in WTF Bites:

    @Polygeekery
    🕴 Hi, this is the FBI, we're here to investigate claims of money laundering with a business bank account.
    Polygeekery Just a simple bank mix-up since their system isn't set up to handle multiple business entities run from the same address.
    🕴 Yes, yes, I see. But did you throw any ice in bars in the past 35 years?

    Hey, as long as you break down and cry at your next job interview, worth it!



  • @Polygeekery said in WTF Bites:

    🕴 Yes, yes, I see. But did you throw any ice in bars in the past 35 years?
    polygeekery I'm sorry ; since you don't have proper security clearance, I can neither confirm nor deny any implication in the events you mentioned, or whether or not they occurred.


  • Considered Harmful

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    Fuck you, Samsung. Why the hell can't I both enable YOUR OWN BUILT IN APPLICATION to have accessibility access and require a screen unlock before the phone turns on? Christ Almighty.



  • @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    Why the hell can't I both enable YOUR OWN BUILT IN APPLICATION to have accessibility access and require a screen unlock before the phone turns on?

    It would be a fire hazard :trollface:



  • @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
    You can only have so much security. Literally.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    I absolutely hate having to deal with build processes. I find them invariably clunky, overcomplicated and headache-inducing when they fail to work ; I once told a colleague who pushed a fancy CMake-based process: "I'll use it, but don't expect me to debug it when it breaks."

    But I'd still blame 👨🏻, because there are limits.

    Hey, who needs to worry about build processes? Just send in your pull request and https://buildmaster.lubar.me/ builds it for you.

    Flagged for SPAM



  • @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @djls45 said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    Do science and religion conflict sometimes? You bet they do. It's hard to believe at the same time that "lightning occurs when a god is angered at humans" and "lightning occurs as a result of an electrostatic process".

    Is it really? Besides the "anger at humans" part (which may or may not be relevant), why can't lightning be the action that an omniscient, omnipotent creator wanted to induce at a particular time and place, so created the universe so that the electrostatic laws and events were such that just that bolt of lightning would be generated?

    For a perhaps more obvious example: in Shakespeare's play Hamlet, Ophelia is a woman who (apparently having gone insane?) climbed a tree, fell into a stream, and drowned. The dichotomy you're proposing is akin to asking, "Did the branch break because it couldn't hold Ophelia's weight, or because Shakespeare wanted it to break?"

    This is one of those things where I would say that God could exist, or have existed at one point. It's pretty clear to me that everything in the universe is predetermined and everything we think of as 'random' is simply a sufficiently advanced pattern. It is completely possible that a being created the universe in meticulous detail, such that everything would play out exactly as he wanted it to, and then set off the Big Bang and watched everything unfold.

    The problem with that scenario is the same as the one with the purely Naturalistic position: our thinking is nothing more than the state that just happened to occur at this point in the space-time of the universe. That includes the ideas that the universe is predetermined, that everything is a pattern, that Something created the universe, that this Something doesn't act within Its creation (any more), and that the Big Bang was the method of initial creation, or any of our other thoughts and beliefs. None of those actually correspond to what actually happened (or could have happened); they're just an "accident" of the current state of the universe. Our minds, at least, have to be at least partially separate from the normal cause-effect chain of physical events. They could be influenced, but not always fully controlled, by physical conditions, and they feed new events into the interlocking pattern of Natural laws, but they must be able to act separately, making true decisions of real free will, or else knowledge (i.e. definitions, facts, argumentation, etc.) itself is ultimately meaningless.



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @djls45 Your stance on evolution pretty much invalidates anything you're saying about your "big accomplishments". That's my personal opinion but any teacher who allows that shit isn't a real teacher.

    What if I said that evolution just really isn't that important for most people? It matters for a few portions of one class, and a few careers.

    It's not the specific topic, it's that he was taught this in a completely wrong way. And if she got that wrong then there's no telling what else she got wrong.

    With a school it's not that much of a problem because you have a multitude of teachers. He only got the one.

    For our English and reading classes and basic knowledge classes, she is well-qualified herself, having an English bachelor's (4 year) degree and an Elementary Education master's (bachelor's+2 years) degree.
    For the rest, she followed the lesson plans that came with the curriculum (or later, set us up with designed-for-the-purpose video classes), so any faults in our education there falls squarely on the shoulder's of the PhDs and professional educators who wrote (and are constantly reviewing, revising, adding to, and correcting) the books and plans for the curriculum.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:

    Not to mention, belief or unbelief in a scientific theory is rather meaningless

    Nah, it's pretty meaningful. The real question is not about believing in evolution or not. It's about whether your beliefs are based on facts and logic, or not.

    And that distinction has deep consequences for everyone. Health, for example (when you're sick, are you going to use a drug based on science, or pray to get better?)

    You should go argue evolution with @djls45. You'll take about ten posts and say 'yeah, this is way out of my depth', and hopefully by some miracle you'll realize you were just taking authority's word for it too.I can't take this anymore, please stop making it hurt

    Last Thursdayism may be self-consistent, but the arguments for it are pain-inducing.

    But he doesn't argue in favor of last-Thursdayism. He argues in favor of young-earth creationism.

    The only difference is that one is serious and the other satire.

    Either of these stories of origins requires the exact same sort of assumptions as whatever origin story you accept.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    @anotherusername said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @Benjamin-Hall said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @djls45 Your stance on evolution pretty much invalidates anything you're saying about your "big accomplishments". That's my personal opinion but any teacher who allows that shit isn't a real teacher.

    What if I said that evolution just really isn't that important for most people? It matters for a few portions of one class, and a few careers.

    It's not the specific topic, it's that he was taught this in a completely wrong way. And if she got that wrong then there's no telling what else she got wrong.

    With a school it's not that much of a problem because you have a multitude of teachers. He only got the one.

    As long as she didn't tell him something like "mutations aren't real, they're made up by the evil evolutionists to try to make us abandon our faith p.s. when you get old enough you're marrying your sister", I'm pretty sure believing an alternate story line for the origin of life and matter isn't really going to affect his scientific beliefs too much.

    And you're sure that's not effectively what happened? 🚎

    Did I learn anything like that? Let's see:

    "mutations aren't real,

    Nope, never heard that.

    they're made up

    Nope, not this either.

    by the evil evolutionists

    Well, they could be anywhere on the range from misinformed to malicious, so *eeeehhhh*....

    to try to make us abandon our faith

    Nope. Misunderstanding the philosophies of science and epistemology and theology are more likely to do that.

    p.s. when you get old enough you're marrying your sister"

    Nope. Not allowed by our beliefs, even if the law of the land allowed it (which it doesn't). Besides, I've grown up with her all her life; she deserves to be able to get away from the rest of us at least sometimes. 😛

    And you're sure that's not effectively what happened? 🚎

    Hmm... this claim doesn't seem anything like correct. 😀



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    They didn't know better. Now we do. We're not living in the 18th or 19th century anymore.

    You say that as if people then didn't know about the natural laws and so they just thought that "gods" or "a God" performed "miracles" (in particular the act of Creation). You forget that in order to know whether something is an exception, one first must know the rule, and that creationists discovered those basic natural laws that we use today and remained creationists.



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @anotherusername said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @anotherusername said in WTF Bites:

    Historically speaking, many of the scientific breakthroughs on which modern science is founded have been made by creationists.

    They didn't know better. Now we do. We're not living in the 18th or 19th century anymore.

    So? Why does that give you the right to be condescending toward the scientific contributions of people just because they hold some beliefs that you consider unscientific?

    I wasn't condescending. I was merely pointing out that those people back then did not have the amount of pieces to the puzzle we have now. We now know better. It's "ignorance" versus "willful ignorance".

    Then how did they even know enough of (to continue your analogy) the shape of the puzzle to find the corners and edges that later scientists have been able to anchor from to fill in parts of the middle? If they were truly ignorant, how could they have even known how to begin looking?

    Just to make it clear: Your attitude allows quackery like Homeopathy to exist.

    Some (probably a very small part, but definitely non-zero) of that does actually work, whether it be through the placebo effect, unintended side effects (e.g. arnica for itches – the act of rubbing a lotion onto the itchy patch is likely the main symptom reliever), or accident of the shared symptom of condition with effect of "treatment" (e.g. something that causes gastrointestinal agitation as "treatment" for belly cramps, to help the system flush stuff through, IFF the cramps are the result of a gastrointestinal issue in the first place).
    But, yes, most of homeopathy is quackery.



  • @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:

    @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @anotherusername Because those views leak. They taint.

    Have you sources to cite?

    If you're willing to throw away rational thought because facts fly in the face of your faith, then who's to say what other facts you're willing to overlook because they go against your creed?

    Which facts would those be? The reason there is a debate in the first place is you cannot disprove the existence of God.

    You also cannot prove the non-existance of the IPU. Or that you're not an idiot sometimes. By this logic we can throw all science and common sense out of the window. :rolleyes:

    The thing you are not getting is that it's not about what you believe happened in the past, but what you predict will happen in the future. If you predict that God's hand will move the cart out of the way of the wooden block, you shouldn't be doing science. But someone who believes the earth was created specifically to fit some scientific model is perfectly capable of doing science because they also believe in the usefulness of the model.

    That's not what his particular type of Creationism is about, though...

    Evolution exists. It happens. You can see it in wolf -> dog, you can see it in what Darwin discovered.

    Wolves and dogs are of the same kind of animal, though. Darwin's finches were all still finches. There are no evidences of any sort of "intermediate" between any of the myriad kinds of animals, whether extant or historical.

    Just because you don't believe that it's what led to where stuff is right now doesn't mean that you can't believe it'll dictate where stuff goes in the future.

    Inasmuch as dogs can be bred for desired traits, or finches with certain types of beaks thrive where they are more easily able to feed. I see no reason to think we can ever get anything but the same kind from any (even artificial) genetic alteration efforts.



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    @pie_flavor It's still not what Young Earth Creationism is about. Because those actually twist facts.

    Which facts?



  • @Rhywden said in WTF Bites:

    You do realize that we have witnessed both micro- and macro-evolution?

    What's an example of the latter?


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