WTF Bites
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
For professional use, not so much
It seems to vary quite a bit. Some have moved very much, especially the more mobile professionals. I expect the trend to continue, especially away from software development (where the demands of computation — but not usually stupid amounts of it — point to desktops and laptops as preferred options).
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@pie_flavor So you're defending Microsoft in their quest to waste bandwidth and harddrive space by installing apps? There would be one thing if they'd just put up a link (annoying ad) to download and install, but this is them DOWNLOADING and INSTALLING crapware on MY COMPUTER and they do this WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION to do so. And it does add to annoyance if I have to keep tracking down and uninstalling whatever crapware-du-jour that MS decides to infest my computer with. And it does turn the entire OS into the very definition of malware.
Ah, yes, whole megabytes of bandwidth and hard drive space will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
I thought I knew 'crotchety developer' when I heard someone espouse vi, not over emacs, but over vim. I was mistaken.
'My computer is affecting my computer!'
https://i.imgur.com/tChTGQy.gif
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Status: Attempted to update nVidia drivers (because lately piss-poor performance and crashes, that's the first thing you try, right?)
It fucked everything so hard, the card literally noped out (and no, re-scanning for devices doesn't help), and now I'm at the Intel integrated only.
On the plus side, 36 FPS!
On the downside, even less works....
GG nVidia...
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:
@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
The desktop is becoming irrelevant. Most people are moving to smartphones and tablets.
Let me know when Outlook, Excel, Skype for Business, Notepad++, IE (because one business critical site won't work in any other browser), OneNote, PowerShell, and VSTS run on my Android phone, with an air gap between them and my personal email, web browsing, etc., with ergonomic keyboard and mouse, and multiple 1080 monitors, and I'll consider using my phone as a computer. Until then, no.
Some of those have versions for Android devices (they're probably better on a tablet than a phone; I've even briefly used the Android versions of Word and Excel, but switched to other apps for reasons unimportant here). Others… I've not looked for since I really don't want to put IE or Skype for Business on my phone. ;) And some of those might transform into things that run on servers that you access using your
phonemobile device.
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@Jaloopa Malware as in "software that installs unwanted programs without the user's permission". You know how Microsoft could solve this issue? By, during setup, ASKING THE GODDAMN USER FOR PERMISSION. It would take ONE screen where they ask the simple question:
"We at Microsoft have partnered up with developers to enhance your Windows experience by automatically installing apps from the Microsoft Store that we think you may be interested in. Would you like this service?
- Yes, please install recommended apps for me.
- No, do not automatically install but do suggest apps that I may be interested in.
- No, do not automatically install any apps or display any suggestions.
You can at any time change your preferences by going into the Microsoft Store app."
This one thing would remove my largest complaint about Windows as it is right now. This one small thing. One question during setup and one easy way of toggling this behaviour.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
IMO you're washing your food wrong if there's still pesticides in it when you eat it
Because you've chemically tested yours to not contain any after washing?
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Microsoft Store
That explains why I don't see this stuff on the home desktop; I've not set anyone up to be signed into that thing…
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@sloosecannon You win a braindead MTR2000!
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@dkf The unwanted crap will end up on your computer regardless if you're signed in or not. Local account or Microsoft account wont make a difference. Status of being logged into the store also doesn't matter. But, well, I suppose it is a way of getting apps from the Microsoft store without a Microsoft account. As long as you're prepared to wait the time it'll take before MS will "suggest" the app to you.
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The unwanted crap will end up on your computer regardless if you're signed in or not.
I'm trying to figure out why it hasn't ended up on mine. ;)
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@dkf Me too. Seems to be a random thing how affected people are by that misfeature. I know that on my Windows 10 install USB, the new user script seems to include a forced download of 6 suggested apps from the store with no way of blocking it, leading to uninstalling the shitpiles being part of the new Windows OOBE regardless of if I disable the automatic installs before giving the computer internet access or not. Oh, and there's also the
of having to let the apps finish installing fully before they can be removed. Very good UX, A+
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It's a long time since I did a clean install of Win 10 (would have been pre anniversary update, pretty soon after it originally launched), but IIRC there were a couple of icons on my start menu: candy crush and get office. I right clicked each as soon as I saw them, clicked uninstall and have never seen them again. Solitaire collection might have been one of the initial icons as well but I wanted that so I clicked it and it downloaded it from the store
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@Jaloopa Yeah, originally there was only a couple apps. But the last time I did an install (1803 image) there were more. And it's the combination of there being several, they're not from Microsoft and they get installed without giving me to option to opt out that irks me so much and sends me into overreacting Hulk Smash mode.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Atazhaia If it was wanted, they wouldn't need to install it by default.
Oh the absolute pain and fucking torment involved in right click > uninstall.Yeah, fucking hours of my life wasted. I'd rather watch Ghostbusters again to doing that.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Attempted to update nVidia drivers
Once in a while.
But usually not in the presence of a yellow Pill monster.
Anyways, full shutdown (no hybrid boot) power cycle, and it came back. Will see it it's any more stable now...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Confuzzled.
This should have looped, no?
I would try to get some information about the caught error in the default catch block (use
$_) and see what's up. It looks like it might exit the loop by setting$Failedto true?
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
@anotherusername said in WTF Bites:
@ben_lubar ...I'm not remembering that one...
The one where the restaurant website was using a separate image for each letter. It looked nearly identical on my screen to @pie_flavor's video of it.
That resembles my thread.
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
Use a wacky encoding, get wacky results. Why would you encode as anything other than H.264, or maybe VP8 if you're posting to 4chan?
It's what VClip uses for WebM, likely because unlike H.264 it shouldn't require a license.
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
You just gave absolutely zero context or explanation at all.
Which part do you need explained?
I thought that the
was that your video did not display its full width in the post (possibly due to local CSS, but, eh). I still have no idea what the problem is here.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
If a computer is actually being used in a business environment, then the custom image should already elide the preinstalled apps the business does not want.
Shorter: You're holding it wrong.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
If a computer is actually being used in a business environment, then the custom image should already elide the preinstalled apps the business does not want.
Every business have custom images, even small business with only 2 employee
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There would be one thing if they'd just put up a link (annoying ad) to download and install, but this is them DOWNLOADING and INSTALLING crapware on MY COMPUTER and they do this WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION to do so.
Both are just forms of non-monetary payment.
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Scarlet_Manuka said in WTF Bites:
In the fridge at work is a container of so-called "rice milk" (according to the ingredients, water with rice in it, presumably finely powdered and mixed to a milk-like consistency but it's not as if I've tried opening it to verify this). No, that's not the WTF, or at least not much of one.
The WTF is that the package proudly proclaims: "Organic!"
Yeah... just like literally every other milk-substitute in existence and, of course, milk itself.
TRWTF is that this probably does increase their sales....
No, that's not a WTF at all. There's a specific legal definition of it, and it basically means you didn't use (artificial) chemical insecticides, herbicides or fertilizers. You may not distinguish between naturally-arising chemicals and man-made chemicals (or, reasonably, just "chemicals" for short), but that doesn't mean that other people don't.
I prefer "organic", but I'm not really willing to pay much extra for it. This is of course, a different sense of the word than in the phrase "organic chemistry".
IMO you're washing your food wrong if there's still pesticides in it when you eat it, but it's nice to eat food you know hasn't been bug-ridden.
I guess it depends on the person. I don't care, by itself, if a bug in a field touched a leaf. And you have more faith than many people do that a simple wash removes every molecule of pesticide.
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Ah, yes, the great care about its business customers that they show when they install Candy Crush and Disney Magical Kingdoms on the editions geared towards businesses by default. What part of Professional or Enterprise says "Let's install games made for the below 12 demographic!"?
Out of curiosity, did you write similar rants when (say) Windows 2000 Pro ("Pro" for professional) installed a pinball game by default?
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@pie_flavor So you're defending Microsoft in their quest to waste bandwidth and harddrive space by installing apps? There would be one thing if they'd just put up a link (annoying ad) to download and install, but this is them DOWNLOADING and INSTALLING crapware on MY COMPUTER and they do this WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION to do so. And it does add to annoyance if I have to keep tracking down and uninstalling whatever crapware-du-jour that MS decides to infest my computer with. And it does turn the entire OS into the very definition of malware.
How impertinent of you to regard it as "your computer".
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
@Scarlet_Manuka said in WTF Bites:
In the fridge at work is a container of so-called "rice milk" (according to the ingredients, water with rice in it, presumably finely powdered and mixed to a milk-like consistency but it's not as if I've tried opening it to verify this). No, that's not the WTF, or at least not much of one.
The WTF is that the package proudly proclaims: "Organic!"
Yeah... just like literally every other milk-substitute in existence and, of course, milk itself.
TRWTF is that this probably does increase their sales....
No, that's not a WTF at all. There's a specific legal definition of it, and it basically means you didn't use (artificial) chemical insecticides, herbicides or fertilizers. You may not distinguish between naturally-arising chemicals and man-made chemicals (or, reasonably, just "chemicals" for short), but that doesn't mean that other people don't.
I prefer "organic", but I'm not really willing to pay much extra for it. This is of course, a different sense of the word than in the phrase "organic chemistry".
IMO you're washing your food wrong if there's still pesticides in it when you eat it, but it's nice to eat food you know hasn't been bug-ridden.
I guess it depends on the person. I don't care, by itself, if a bug in a field touched a leaf. And you have more faith than many people do that a simple wash removes every molecule of pesticide.
It's more likely to remove anything dangerous from Roundup than the literal shit that organic produce sometimes uses for fertiliser
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
Ah, yes, the great care about its business customers that they show when they install Candy Crush and Disney Magical Kingdoms on the editions geared towards businesses by default. What part of Professional or Enterprise says "Let's install games made for the below 12 demographic!"?
Out of curiosity, did you write similar rants when (say) Windows 2000 Pro ("Pro" for professional) installed a pinball game by default?
Back then I was 15 and my software development skills were making half-finished games in The Games Factory. My requirements in regards to a professional development environment weren't quite as high back then. :P
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
iPad 2 that can barely load any website without crashing
Well duh. That's Apple's planned obsolescence. Apple owners are not allowed to possess devices more than 1 year old. Ok, maybe 2.
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We at Microsoft have partnered up with developers to enhance your Windows experience by automatically installing apps from the Microsoft Store that we think you may be interested in.
And how do you know it wasn't the hardware manufacturer that decided you need them? (I'm actually serious about that - we partner with others so our app is pre-installed on computers)
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
iPad 2 that can barely load any website without crashing
Well duh. That's Apple's planned obsolescence. Apple owners are not allowed to possess devices more than 1 year old. Ok, maybe 2.
Yeah, my iPhone 4s was lightning fast when I got it. Now it's barely usable as literally everything lags for seconds. I'm pretty sure upgrading it to the newest available iOS (8? 9?) did that, because they refused to port a critical network security fix to 6 when 7 came out.
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
iPad 2 that can barely load any website without crashing
Well duh. That's Apple's planned obsolescence. Apple owners are not allowed to possess devices more than 1 year old. Ok, maybe 2.
Yeah, my iPhone 4s was lightning fast when I got it. Now it's barely usable as literally everything lags for seconds. I'm pretty sure upgrading it to the newest available iOS (8? 9?) did that, because they refused to port a critical network security fix to 6 when 7 came out.
Or maybe because they intentionally slowed it? Remember?
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@ben_lubar said in WTF Bites:
iPad 2 that can barely load any website without crashing
Well duh. That's Apple's planned obsolescence. Apple owners are not allowed to possess devices more than 1 year old. Ok, maybe 2.
Yeah, my iPhone 4s was lightning fast when I got it. Now it's barely usable as literally everything lags for seconds. I'm pretty sure upgrading it to the newest available iOS (8? 9?) did that, because they refused to port a critical network security fix to 6 when 7 came out.
Or maybe because they intentionally slowed it? Remember?
No, it's not that. The battery isn't too great anymore, but it's super slow even with 100% charge, and it's way more slowdown than the bad battery thing is supposed to be.
I'm pretty sure it's because it's upgraded to a stupid-ass OS it just can't handle anymore, but at least it's got more eye candy.
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And how do you know it wasn't the hardware manufacturer that decided you need them?
On my custom-built PCs with a self-purchased OEM version of Windows? I'd say it's Microsoft in that case.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:
Status: Confuzzled.
This should have looped, no?
I would try to get some information about the caught error in the default catch block (use
$_) and see what's up. It looks like it might exit the loop by setting$Failedto true?Yes, it will exit of it's not an expected (for various definitions of expected) exceptions. More logging will occur... Somewhere.
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Dr. Regex: Unique, esoteric insight into the world of regular expressions
How to Match "A B C" where A+B=C
How to Match "A B C" where A+B=C: The Beast Tamed
A regex I submitted to Reddit recently climbed to the top of /r/programming and made quite a few heads explode in the process. As delightf...
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How to Match "A B C" where A+B=C
I'll stick with email addresses TYVM...
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@bb36e To quote JWZ: ... now you have -2147483648 problems.
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@bb36e You know ... the worst part about this is that someone somewhere read this and went "Hmm. What a neat solution to this one problem...".
Also, that person is probably a webdev, so soon we'll have the regexp packaged in npm. From there it will end up as a dependency for a bazillion other packages, and soon our machines will do nothing but waste CPU cycles doing math in regexp.
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@anotherusername Sorry. "Almost 12" or "11 and 3/4" more acceptable?
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"15" notifications...
Note the overlap of 2 in the first and second screenshots, which combined have one page of notifications. The third screenshot is the unread notifications on the second page. And since NodeBB insists on sorting the unread notifications to the beginning of that list, that's all of them.By my count, 18. This was after a full refresh of the page, by the way.
Just for added fun, visiting this topic "fixed" it: all of the notifications from this topic got cleared, which left 9 unread notifications -- and that number actually did agree with the number of unread notifications in the list.
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@anotherusername Counting is hard
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@Atazhaia You have a weird definition of "malware".
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@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
Use a wacky encoding, get wacky results. Why would you encode as anything other than H.264, or maybe VP8 if you're posting to 4chan?
It's what VClip uses for WebM, likely because unlike H.264 it shouldn't require a license.
I just use ShareX. I don't pay attention to what it uses.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@pie_flavor said in WTF Bites:
If a computer is actually being used in a business environment, then the custom image should already elide the preinstalled apps the business does not want.
Every business have custom images, even small business with only 2 employee
A small business with only 2 employees is not overly concerned with a brand new computer having a little one-click-uninstall bloatware.
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@blakeyrat said in WTF Bites:
Ah, yes, the great care about its business customers that they show when they install Candy Crush and Disney Magical Kingdoms on the editions geared towards businesses by default. What part of Professional or Enterprise says "Let's install games made for the below 12 demographic!"?
Out of curiosity, did you write similar rants when (say) Windows 2000 Pro ("Pro" for professional) installed a pinball game by default?
Back then I was 15 and my software development skills were making half-finished games in The Games Factory. My requirements in regards to a professional development environment weren't quite as high back then. :P
You are very carefully avoiding the point of the question.
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@pie_flavor Before Windows 10 Microsoft wouldn't install thirdparty crapware automatically on users PCs. And while I used games in my examples, this goes for any thirdparty app that gets installed by Microsoft without my permission on my PC. No, I don't need Foxit PDF Reader auto-installed when I got Acrobat DC.
(Which also is fun in that Microsoft auto-installs a PDF reader when they want you to use Edge for all your PDF needs.)
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@Atazhaia Which is ironic, because if there's anything where a JS implementation is useful over a native app, then it's e.g. Firefox's PDF.js. It can't do all the Acrobat bullshit I don't need, but it's lean, fast, and doesn't increase the attack surface, in contrast to the bajillion Acrobat exploits.
