220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering
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Electric Shower Head Teardown Makes Us Wince
We have bought some really amazing stuff from the Chinese online shops. We’ve also bought stuff that was… less than satisfactory, let’s say. At the prices you pay, you usually jus…
"We’ve seen the cute showerheads that change color, but those take batteries. What we are talking about here connects to the 220V main and draws 30A to instantly heat your shower water. Environmentally, that’s great since you don’t have a tank of water you keep heating and reheating just in case you need hot water. But you wouldn’t throw an AC radio in the tub, so you have to wonder just how safely this thing’s built. Well, you don’t have to wonder, because the videos below are going to show us"
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Has there ever been a "[product that would be dangerous if badly made] teardown" that doesn't end up showing that the product is badly made?
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@El_Heffe I heard they're very common in South-East Asia. I also heard that there's some basic mistake that all "alarmists" make when analyzing this design - can't remember what it was at the moment, but actually getting electrocuted is pretty much impossible, unless there's mechanical damage.
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@El_Heffe they are called "suicide showers" and are really common in Asia. Big Clive has done teardowns of them before. You can find them on YouTube.
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@pie_flavor said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
That mouse capture though....
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@Tsaukpaetra I swear the mouse was under the capture region...
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@Gąska said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I heard they're very common in South-East Asia.
In Brazil also, I've been told.
Paging, uh, whatever his current account is... @fbmac @sockpuppet7?
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@Gąska said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@El_Heffe I heard they're very common in South-East Asia.
And South and Central America. Wikipedia has an example of one in Guatemala:
And also in the UK, though the design there is different:
Presumably safer, given the national religion.
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@Gąska said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
can't remember what it was at the moment, but actually getting electrocuted is pretty much impossible, unless there's mechanical damage.
It simply must be properly earthed so that a wet bag of meat in a tub with flowing tap-water still offers significantly higher resistance than the ground path. At unholy goddamn 30 amps that may still be enough for a shock, however, so a fuse or something more clever must trip quickly enough (as in milliseconds).
The most damage will occur at the most unlikely of circumstances. Given the circumstances where these things are being used, I find it rather doubtful that any given combination of said preventive measures are common.
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@Gurth said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Presumably safer, given the national religion.
Oh yes. The murder-shower design is fundamentaly non-compliant here. Ours use a completely sealed heating element with a lot of safety features. Current electrical regulations require the entire house to be protected via an earth-leakage current detector as well.
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@Polygeekery said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@El_Heffe they are called "suicide showers" and are really common in Asia. Big Clive has done teardowns of them before. You can find them on YouTube.
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@remi These things are popular here. Pretty safe, never heard of a single accident with them. You may get a weak shock if you use a metalic faucet with them, but not worse than what you get with static energy.
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@sockpuppet7
Indeed, appeals from people complaining how dead they are generally are unheard of
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Suggest a quick search on the forum before starting a new thread, otherwise we will be repeating ourselves every year instead of creating new content:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/21764/wall-tap-mystery/16
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@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Suggest a quick search on the forum before starting a new thread, otherwise we will be repeating ourselves every year instead of creating new content:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/21764/wall-tap-mystery/16But!!! Threads are free!!!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Suggest a quick search on the forum before starting a new thread, otherwise we will be repeating ourselves every year instead of creating new content:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/21764/wall-tap-mystery/16But!!! Threads are free!!!
Aaaaand... @Helix , YMBNH as that ship sailed looooong ago...
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@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
repeating ourselves every year instead of creating new content
Once anything is a couple of years old
fbmacsockpuppet7 will necro it. Eventually we won't have to make any new threads at all...
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@sockpuppet7
Indeed, appeals from people complaining how dead they are generally are unheard ofhttps://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/24899/write-your-own-obituary-tagline
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@Cursorkeys said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
repeating ourselves every year instead of creating new content
Once anything is a couple of years old
fbmacsockpuppet7 will necro it. Eventually we won't have to make any new threads at all...Everything old is new again.
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We should all co-develop some new forum software. It could have a feature with "mandatory search before starting new thread", Infinitely long pages and mods to shut down threads that are not on topic.
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@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
mods to shut down threads that are not on topic
It sounded like a good idea until we got to this part.
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@JBert said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
mods to shut down threads that are not on topic
It sounded like a good idea until we got to this part.
I assume on here it would be configured to automatically shutdown the topic after the first post.
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@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
We should all co-develop some new forum software. It could have a feature with "mandatory search before starting new thread", Infinitely long pages and mods to shut down threads that are not on topic.
One long topic with all posts in it.
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@loopback0 said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@JBert said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Helix said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
mods to shut down threads that are not on topic
It sounded like a good idea until we got to this part.
I assume on here it would be configured to automatically shutdown the topic after the first post.
Or even before the first post, to ensure mods have an absolute minimum of work to do.
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@loopback0 But make the CPU time it takes scale exponentially with the number of "user actions" (votes, bookmarks, reads, revisions, etc) on all other posts in all other threads. That'd make it just right.
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@TwelveBaud said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
But make the CPU time it takes scale exponentially with the number of "user actions" (votes, bookmarks, reads, revisions, etc) on all other posts in all other threads. That'd make it just right.
Isn't that how
works?
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@sockpuppet7 said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@remi These things are popular here. Pretty safe, never heard of a single accident with them. You may get a weak shock if you use a metalic faucet with them, but not worse than what you get with static energy.
But now I have to know: What are the options when it comes to non-metallic faucets?
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@boomzilla Plastic, I assume...
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@loopback0 :thatsthejoke.swf:
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@TwelveBaud Yeah but why would anyone pass up the opportunity to make a
joke?
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@loopback0
is, itself, a joke, but I wouldn't make it.
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@HardwareGeek
wasn't made. It sort of happened as a result of a few poor decisions and accidents.
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@loopback0 said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@HardwareGeek
wasn't made. It sort of happened as a result of a few poor decisions and accidents.That explains a lot of the people here too...
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@loopback0 Maybe the
devs will decide to use 220V showerheads, too.
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I'm much more worried about all these li-ion batteries around. Different than electric showers they killed a few people
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Would you rather fight one 100-post thread or hundred 1-post threads?
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@Gąska said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Would you rather fight one 100-post thread or hundred 1-post threads?
1-post threads tend to be dumber and harder to follow so I pick that.
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Community Server wasn't made to be used.
@loopback0 said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
wasn't made.NodeBB wa
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@Gąska said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Would you rather fight one 100-post thread or hundred 1-post threads?
I'd fuck them all...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I'd
fuckupvote them all...FTFY
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@dkf said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I'd
fuckupvote them all...FTFY
Is there a difference? Both give me pleasure...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@dkf said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I'd
fuckupvote them all...FTFY
Is there a difference? Both give me pleasure...
Now we know the real reason he likes the upvote button so much.
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@Gurth said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@dkf said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I'd
fuckupvote them all...FTFY
Is there a difference? Both give me pleasure...
Now we know the real reason he likes the upvote button so much.
Ohh.....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Gurth said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@dkf said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
@Tsaukpaetra said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
I'd
fuckupvote them all...FTFY
Is there a difference? Both give me pleasure...
Now we know the real reason he likes the upvote button so much.
Ohh.....
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@El_Heffe said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
Environmentally, that’s great since you don’t have a tank of water you keep heating and reheating just in case you need hot water.
When I get around to replacing the heating method of my house I will switch from electric heater + boiler and get a connection to the district heating system instead. Not only is it a vastly cheaper method of heating the house, it also replaces the boiler to heat water on demand instead of keeping a tank of heated water.
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@Atazhaia
On the other hand, our town's heating infrastructure is so piss-poor that every other month there is either planned systems check, unplanned maintenance or, as we've been saying, "planned emergency". As a rule, at times most inconvenient to the majority of the affected population.
This year I've been repeatedly considering adding boiler as a backup. It has become so bad one might think it was being run by the council's IT department.
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@Applied-Mediocrity In direct contradiction to the town council itself, the council-owned utility company is mostly competent. And I have to rely on them to not fuck up all other utilities anyway (power, water, garbage disposal, internet (indirectly)), one of which I have to rely on for my heating anyway.
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@Atazhaia said in 220V 30A Heated Shower Head -- Add a Jolt of Excitement to Showering:
it also replaces the boiler to heat water on demand instead of keeping a tank of heated water.
Is the water coming from the city's steam line at all clean? Or do you have to install a heat exchanger?
I would imagine it'd be full of oil and nasty shit. Not something you'd want to shower in.
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