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@dkf As I understand it, there is a legal difference in at least some jurisdictions between taxis who can pick up street hails and pre-arranged ride services (limo companies, charter buses, etc) who can't. The first set need medallions, special licensure/insurance, and the second group don't. In the era before smartphones (and cellphones in general), this was fine. The "lesser" services weren't that big of a competition, and the issues involved (since there would be a contract on file, etc) were considered different enough to require different regulation.
Uber saw this, and saw the abusive oligopoly of the taxi services (who were screwing both their drivers (who work for pennies and usually rent the medallions at extortionary rates) and their customers (who got crap service and serious attitude)) and figured that they were in the legal clear if they were a ride service--that is, if an Uber car can't be hailed from the street. Which it can't. From what I understand, they have a good legal foundation here.
That's still the open legal question here. The regulators basically tried to say "no, it counts (even though the law doesn't say that)," while Uber says "nuh-uh, the law says that ..." but neither one has taken it to a final court decision (and that doesn't mean the US Supreme Court--it just means all appeals exhausted. There have been preliminary decisions by some magistrate courts, but those are non-precidental and often really screwy, so that's not a final word.
None of this excuses Uber's other predatory, unethical, or illegal behaviors. Uber the company--awful. Uber the service? A good thing. It shows that many of the regulations were there either out of inertia or were actively counterproductive (rent-seeker-enabling, competition-denying, crony corporatism).
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@bulb said in In other news today...:
Depends on jurisdiction. I am pretty sure the only part open here is whether the company itself can be made liable; the drivers definitely are.
Which is, of course, incredibly convenient for the big, wealthy company...
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@bulb said in In other news today...:
the company could only be charged with suggesting illegal activity
That would likely be considered conspiracy in the jurisdictions I am familiar with, and can be a more serious crime than the actual illegal act that one is conspiring to do.
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@hardwaregeek said in In other news today...:
@bulb said in In other news today...:
the company could only be charged with suggesting illegal activity
That would likely be considered conspiracy in the jurisdictions I am familiar with, and can be a more serious crime than the actual illegal act that one is conspiring to do.
Also, there's the problem that they may get away with it once. But as soon as it becomes clear that their whole MO is based on not looking too closely at what the drivers are doing then they'll be in a lot of hot water.
Which obviously was apparent to pretty much everyone.
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North Korea also described itself as a “responsible nuclear power”, saying its strategic weapons were developed to defend itself from “the U.S. imperialists’ nuclear blackmail policy and nuclear threat” [emphasis added].
Yeah, diplomacy is going swimmingly, I see.
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@anotherusername The worst part is, I doubt they can hit more than the edge of the mainland. AKA, where I live.
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@masonwheeler said in In other news today...:
Are you literally accusing the taxi agencies of bribing the regulators to go after Uber, and the regulators of accepting bribes? Or is that hyperbole?
How are taxi commissions not one of your pet conspiracy theories?
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@jaloopa said in In other news today...:
The only reason Uber has got as far as it has in America is the horribly broken taxi system you have over there. Most towns and cities in the UK have actual competition between taxi companies, leaving Uber as just another provider with no real niche
There's actual competition here, often enough, just not enough of it. The supply is artificially reduced by the taxi guys and their buddies in government. They are orders of magnitude worse than Uber.
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@boomzilla My local taxi industry has fake competition: several taxi "companies" all owned by the same parent company.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
@anotherusername The worst part is, I doubt they can hit more than the edge of the mainland. AKA, where I live.
But really, odds are that it won't make it even that far.
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@boomzilla
Taxi commissions are government agencies and therefore, by definition, not corruptable and always looking out for the consumer's best interest.Just like the Venezulan Ministry of Store Shelf Stocking.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
@anotherusername The worst part is, I doubt they can hit more than the edge of the mainland. AKA, where I live.
According to the reports I've seen, this ICBM could make it to any part of the mainland. As I understand it, they can't actually do it and deliver a warhead though (yet).
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@heterodox Well, that doesn't help much, though.
Their misinformation is strong enough, I don't trust them to know where to bomb. And so they'll try to bomb LA, miss, and hit Portland.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
And so they'll try to bomb LA, miss, and hit
PortlandNunavut.FTFY
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@timebandit Ideally, it detonates before it finishes launching.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
@timebandit Ideally, it detonates before it finishes launching.
Hoping Kim Jong-un is watching the launch closely
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@timebandit He'll probably forget to check the wind and the missile will be blown back to him. This scenario can be explored in the advanced military simulation "Worms"
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
This scenario can be explored in the advanced military simulation "Worms"
That's possible.
It happened to me a couple time
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@timebandit He'll probably forget to check the wind and the missile will be blown back to him. This scenario can be explored in the advanced military simulation "Worms"
Scorched Earth was da bomb. Much better than Worms. Way more options =)
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@timebandit He'll probably forget to check the wind and the missile will be blown back to him. This scenario can be explored in the advanced military simulation "Worms"
Or he sets it up as a grenade, and embeds said missile in the tunnel roof above his head.
Which certainly never happened to me.
At least, it never happened more than a dozen times.
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@timebandit said in In other news today...:
Hoping Kim Jong-un is watching the launch in close
lproximity
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@polygeekery I would be pointing that to Poe or Noe thread if it said United rather than American...
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@pjh said in In other news today...:
@scholrlea said in In other news today...:
Filed Under: And don't even get me started about the double standard in applying capital punishment for horse sexxoring...
Well in Kenneth Pinyan's case, he got a death sentence...
Got it in one.
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@scholrlea oh, that guy. Yeah I'd have known who you meant right away if you'd just said Mr. Hands.
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@magus said in In other news today...:
And so they'll try to bomb LA, miss, and hit Portland.
Either way, no great loss.
Just as long as they don't hit the area roughly half-way in between.
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Posterity snip (for when it goes down):
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@polygeekery said in In other news today...:
Americans or American Airlines are offering 1.5x?
Because i'm sure as fuck not paying 1.5x to fly
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@magus said in In other news today...:
And so they'll try to bomb LA, miss, and hit Portland.
OR or ME?
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@djls45 Either way, that's someone here down.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
@magus said in In other news today...:
And so they'll try to bomb LA, miss, and hit Portland.
OR or ME?
If they're shooting for LA (9343km), ME (10500km) and OR (8189km) are about the same "missed by that much" distance...
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Sex scandals, terrorists, courtroom suicides, forget all that shit. This is the real important news right here:
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@hungrier I have this odd feeling you're being sarcastic about that, but that really is the important news!
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Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
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— Jim SterlingFile Under: Burn baby burn
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Took long enough...
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@hardwaregeek said in In other news today...:
That would likely be considered conspiracy in the jurisdictions I am familiar with, and can be a more serious crime than the actual illegal act that one is conspiring to do.
Conspiracy and incitement. Classic things that make legal punishments enormously stronger.
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
This scenario can be explored in the advanced military simulation "Worms"
You guys have got the Carpet Bomb and Holy Hand Grenade left?
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@polygeekery said in In other news today...:
I didn't know that American took staffing advice from Ryanair…
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