Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π
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@julianlam I think it's the same thing as with Apple. It looks nice and has a nice interface. Their edgerouter (and APs in the same series) are the same hardware, but cheaper.
They just have a more barebones interface. And a few features more.
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@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Does Ubiquiti equipment actually negotiate traffic better in a congested wifi area?
Absolutely!
i have first hand experience with this~!
@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
, I have maybe 7 devices on a good day
likewise, but i have hundreds of devices visible to my access point becuase city livin.
previously there was terrible wifi performance, even when i cranked up the TX power to outshout the competition. now i havent had to touch the TX power or anything becuase performance is butter smooth
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Well that's good to hear... Now I just need to convince my wife.
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@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Now I just need to convince my wife
One of the most important factor: the WAF
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@timebandit
Should be an easy sell, just divert money from the bimbo fund for the toy. Win win
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I got the Ubiquiti brainworm from this thread, too.
My situation is that I'll need to cover a small apartment, I don't plan on having a whole lot of devices (about 2 computers on wifi + the odd phone and tablet, most of them not used at the same time); I'm not worried about any IoT stuff or a TV. So congestion isn't going to be a huge problem, what I'm looking for is something that can cover the whole place with a strong signal, including through walls. The place is small so multiple APs aren't worth it, but on the other hand I'd like to have a strong signal everywhere.
At the same time I see Ubiquiti strongly recommends installing their antennas on ceilings due to signal dispersion patterns, and I want to avoid that because it would look ugly as hell... but how about leaving the AP laying on something like a TV console - like here except not on the floor? That shouldn't cause any problems, right?
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
That shouldn't cause any problems, right?
in my experience, no issues. mine's on the floor under my end table where the cable hookup is. i keep meaning to wall mount it to directionalize the signal slightly and get better reception in the back yard but......
/shrug
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@accalia Thanks. Getting a Ubiquiti dedicated AP for a 52 m2/560 sq ft apartment is probably a bit too much, but hey, there's no kill like overkill.
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
there's no kill like overkill
There is no overkill. There's just βkeep firingβ and βI need to reloadβ.
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God dammit! I wanted to spring for the UAP-AC-PRO because of the 3x3 MIMO in both bands, but I can't power that with PoE passthrough from the Edgerouter X because the PRO needs 48V and the Edgerouter X only does 24V passive. So my choices are:
- Use separate PoE injectors for each device and somehow create a massive mess of wires out of two fucking devices
- Use the standard power adapter to power the router like a neanderthal
- Upgrade to an Edgerouter PoE which costs 4 times as much as the X (seriously, wtf)
- Downgrade to the UAP-AC-LR and only have 2x2 MIMO (and 867 instead of 1300 mpbs) in 5GHz
It's like they don't want me to spend more money.
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
It's like they don't want me to spend more money.
Of course they do
Upgrade to an Edgerouter PoE which costs 4 times as much as the X
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@timebandit Yeah but I'm willing to spend an extra 50 EUR for the Pro, not extra 150 for the PoE router...
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
At the same time I see Ubiquiti strongly recommends installing their antennas on ceilings due to signal dispersion patterns,
Just put it upside-down on the floor.
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@blakeyrat But I don't want my internet to be upside down!
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@blek
Just set your GeoIP to Australia, then everything will be ok. Except for not being able to get anything of value on Netflix or Amazon, but hey
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
3x3 MIMO
How many 3 antenna devices do you have? IMO 3x3 is way overkill if you don't need mu-mimo. And mu mimo (supposedly) really shines when your ap gets congested. Which yours probably won't. And you need clients to support it too.
I'd much rather have 2 or 3 of the ac lites. But you don't really need that.
Fun fact: I've had problems with my WiFi. I've not been able to diagnose it with WiFi scanner apps etc.
I then bought a unifi ap.
Unifi logged something like 2000 nearby APs in a week. I'm close enough to cars, busses and trains for them to interfere greatly. The busses and train s used the same channel as I did.
Unifi did way better than my tp link, which is theoretically faster, on the channel I used, but changing away helped greatly.
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@blakeyrat said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
At the same time I see Ubiquiti strongly recommends installing their antennas on ceilings due to signal dispersion patterns,
Just put it upside-down on the floor.
Won't work quite the same, as you're less likely to have line-of-sight to the floor than ceiling.
Not that that matters for 90% of use cases, but still relevant, and that's probably why they recommend the ceiling.
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@polygeekery said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
shitty capacitors
They're a problem in s and air conditioning condenser units, too.
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Alright, I set up the Edgerouter X + UAP-AC-LR and my flatmate's reception in the next room went from garbage to 4/5 bars - and the hardware cost less than your average "prosumer" router (this cost me about 3500 CZK, the Netgear R7000 I was originally planning to get goes for about 4500). I'm in love.
The only criticism I have is that the Unifi Controller app for Android behaves a bit weird sometimes, and Ubiquiti doesn't provide a RPM package of the desktop version, only deb. It's not a huge problem, but on the other hand, how hard could it be to provide a package for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora?
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@izzion Damn, how did I miss that? When I was looking for a RPM a few days ago all I could see was a COPR repo that was dead. Thanks!
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@blakeyrat But I don't want my internet to be upside down!
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Alright, I set up the Edgerouter X + UAP-AC-LR
How's it been a few months down the road? I'm in the market for a 5g wifi router, since where I live, the 2.4 is supersaturated.
It'd be a bonus if I could also ditch my 10/100 DSL router.
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@lorne-kates I've been using UAP-AC-LITEs at my day job. Setting up a controller for multiple access points was a bit time consuming, but you can get away with the Java application on your PC if you only have one or two and don't want guest access. I set up a virtual machine with Ubuntu server and the controller software.
I've had no problem with any access points since I installed them. I know there are a couple of Ubiquiti access points in the building that have silently failed after many years. I'd love to recycle their cable runs, but how do you find a dead access point in the walls?
Also, keep in mind that if you go 5GHz, you'll probably want a couple (2-3) of access points for a normal-sized home. 5GHz signals really don't make it through many walls. If I were you I might look a Powerline Ethernet wifi access point network. Get 2 or 3 of those bad boys and have your home power system be your (near gigabit) lan.
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@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
how do you find a dead access point in the walls?
Is this a thing? Why are they in the walls?
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@polygeekery said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Why are they in the walls?
Stupidity
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@lorne-kates Zero technical problems, and I get 80% signal on the street outside my window. My flatmate is really happy with the much better signal he gets in the room next to me, too, it's a huge step up from the cheap TP-Link we used to have.
The only complaint I have is that the Edgerouter makes this weird faint scratching noise, kinda like an old hard drive head if you know what I mean. I have it under a night table right next to my bed and I hear it when I'm falling asleep. I don't hear it at all otherwise, even when the house is quiet - I'm sitting maybe 3m away right now and nothing, so just don't set it up right next to where you sleep and you'll be fine.
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
so just don't set it up right next to where you sleep and you'll be fine.
You should follow your own advice
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@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
I'd love to recycle their cable runs, but how do you find a dead access point in the walls?
On another note, get yourself one of these:
We have something similar to that but I believe it is a different brand. Like a conventional toner but with a more sensitive and directional pickup antenna on it. You could pretty easily find the cable runs in the walls with that and then trace them back to a point where you could repurpose them.
Honestly though, if you have spare budget then just running new cabling is not prohibitively expensive for most orgs.
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@timebandit Meeeeh, it's already set up and I don't care enough to move it.
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@blek said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
the Edgerouter makes this weird faint scratching noise, kinda like an old hard drive head
That's...odd. It should be entirely solid state if the ones I looked at online are what I think they are. You may want to RMA it, capacitors can make a somewhat similar noise in certain failure conditions and I would hate for that cap to hold on until 12 hours after the warranty ran out.
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@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
If I were you I might look a Powerline Ethernet wifi access point network. Get 2 or 3 of those bad boys and have your home power system be your (near gigabit) lan.
Mmm. That worked really, really well at my old apartment but not at my new one. Might want to test your lines for noise first (though I'm unsure as to how to actually do that).
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@heterodox said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
If I were you I might look a Powerline Ethernet wifi access point network. Get 2 or 3 of those bad boys and have your home power system be your (near gigabit) lan.
Mmm. That worked really, really well at my old apartment but not at my new one. Might want to test your lines for noise first (though I'm unsure as to how to actually do that).
Hook a speaker up to the power lines directly!
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@tsaukpaetra said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@heterodox said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
If I were you I might look a Powerline Ethernet wifi access point network. Get 2 or 3 of those bad boys and have your home power system be your (near gigabit) lan.
Mmm. That worked really, really well at my old apartment but not at my new one. Might want to test your lines for noise first (though I'm unsure as to how to actually do that).
Hook a speaker up to the power lines directly!
I just get tons of 60hz noise. How do i get rid of that?
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@polygeekery said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@tsaukpaetra said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@heterodox said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@captain said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
If I were you I might look a Powerline Ethernet wifi access point network. Get 2 or 3 of those bad boys and have your home power system be your (near gigabit) lan.
Mmm. That worked really, really well at my old apartment but not at my new one. Might want to test your lines for noise first (though I'm unsure as to how to actually do that).
Hook a speaker up to the power lines directly!
I just get tons of 60hz noise. How do i get rid of that?
I have an appropriately-sized supacap to help you with your power factor correction, don't worry!
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Update: I ended up trying an old router I had sitting unused, a TP-LINK somethingorother.
Was ok with OpenWRT, and then that statement came out from them, and I unplugged my Chromecast, and it's been rock solid ever since.
Good gravy!
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@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Was ok with OpenWRT, and then that statement came out from them, and I unplugged my Chromecast, and it's been rock solid ever since.
I believe there's supposed to be a fix for Android/Chromecast Wi-Fi issues coming out shortly.
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Resurrecting this because I'm penny pinching now, but looking for a $50 or less router supporting up to 50 clients in a 30'x20' area (approximately).
I'm thinking this:
But it's increased in price (curse my slothfulness!) and I've only been allotted $50 (I would foot the extra $7 and shipping but I don't think you can have multiple PayPal methods on a single order...)
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Hey, the Archer AC1200? Isn't that the one that reboots whenever Google devices are around?
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@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Isn't that the one that reboots whenever Google devices are around?
No idea. Is it?
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@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Hey, the Archer AC1200? Isn't that the one that reboots whenever Google devices are around?
Do you have any links to this? This is a I would like to read about.
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@polygeekery said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@julianlam said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
Hey, the Archer AC1200? Isn't that the one that reboots whenever Google devices are around?
Do you have any links to this? This is a I would like to read about.
I have a small WTF in the status thread somewhere about how my mother's CenturyLink router somehow managed to hard reset Wi-Fi adapters.
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Nevermind, I was mistaken
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My home network now supports IPv6!
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@greybeard said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
My home network now supports IPv6!
For no real reason!!
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@polygeekery said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
@greybeard said in Recommend me a Tomato compatible router π :
My home network now supports IPv6!
For no real reason!!
Nah, he wants to see if others can directly connect to all the things inside his house now!
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@polygeekery It was handy when I was developing our product's IPv6 support. But later my then-ISP quietly dropped IPv6 support for my then-router.
But less CGNAT now.
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@tsaukpaetra Good point! Scan from random site shows everything blocked as it should be.