In yesterdays's MS Build, they were touting it as the next big thing with absolutely no hesitation about pushing this everywhere. What are we missing? How is everyone excited about this?
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RE: Spyware as a service
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RE: Spyware as a service
@PleegWat said in Spyware as a service:
I know for a fact monitoring email metadata to check for private email is illegal.
You don't have google where you live anymore?
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RE: Spyware as a service
LOL. Everyone going this/that is illegal under GDPR or under the law should come work where I live. Even things that are illegal are legal here in India. You could mass deploy something like this and nobody would give a remote flying fvck.
I'm thinking the bunch of us who don't know Linux should get started.
Goddamn everything has become a fucking joke
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RE: Random Thought of the Day
@Tsaukpaetra Well you can always reach out to TechnicalRarity and ask what he thinks can't you?
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RE: Random Thought of the Day
@Tsaukpaetra Can you check with the person in question if this was what was actually meant and let us know?
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RE: Random Thought of the Day
@Tsaukpaetra I want to taste someone's tongue with my anus. Did you already count this in your 4 or we gonna have to build this interpretation out?
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RE: The Official 2023 Death Pool
@error said in The Official 2023 Death Pool:
Jerry Springer - Wikipedia
Oh wow. He's been a part of my life for about twenty years. Who do I replace him with? Alex Jones?
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RE: TLD Confusion
My original question has been answered but this is still a very weird behaviour!
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RE: TLD Confusion
@Unperverted-Vixen In that case, how does the browser know a.github.io and b.github.io are different sites but a.x.com and b.x.com are same sites? That's the bit that does not make sense to me.
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TLD Confusion
I am reading about same site cookies from https://web.dev/samesite-cookies-explained/
It says
If the user is on www.web.dev and requests an image from static.web.dev then that is a same-site request.
The public suffix list defines this, so it's not just top-level domains like .com but also includes services like github.io. That enables your-project.github.io and my-project.github.io to count as separate sites.
If the user is on your-project.github.io and requests an image from my-project.github.io that's a cross-site request.
I am super confused. The former case is considered same-site cos both have the same domain(web.dev). The second is considered cross site but they still have the same domain(github.io). Why is it considered cross-site? What am I missing here? Is the example wrong?
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RE: Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!
@Bulb said in Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!:
And you are implementing them in .нет? You might be in for a real treat. See, I'm currently in process of redeploying some of those with a more appropriate tooling (like CI) and … there are some older versions of the libraries in use and updating them is a pain in the :donkey:, because some of the components were replaced by newer ‘generation’ that is not just a different package in different namespace, but most of the types were renamed too. And now with .нет 6 they introduced ‘isolated runtime’ and the framework (how you even write and annotate the entry point) is completely different, so a bunch more rewriting. And in .нет 6, both the old and new options exist, but with .нет 7 the old option is going away, so yet more Microsoft-forced busywork. It's really a pile-of-.
… no, functions are fine if you need to quickly cobble together a prototype and push it into the production, but going from your own servlet container to functions is D-U-M-B. Just wrap the servlet container in a container and call it a fortnight (the functionapp service can actually run containers too if you think the extra cost is worth the scaling support).Reading this shit made me wanna puke and gave me a headache, brings back a lot of bad memories. I was there during the .NET core 1.0 to .NET core 3.0 and it was fucked up in so many ways nothing we have now comes close.
Luckily, this won't affect me cos the chucklefuck that's gonna be dealing with this is not me. Remembe this is multicloud, so this is gonna be up on AWS Lambda and Google cloud functions. I'm ordering myself a truckload of popcorn for the next month.
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RE: Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!
@Bulb said in Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!:
Is there actually a good business justification for doing it?
Ofcourse not.
@Bulb said in Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!:
Also, does the app use any relational features in the database, that is, is there any joining going on in the queries?
It uses all the relational features a typical relational database would and there are plenty of joins and whatnot. There is absolutely no reason for this to go NoSQL.
@Carnage said in Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!:
Also, is there any purpose for swapping from RDBMS to NoSQL? If not, why do it?
Well, according to the architect who read an article - A Microservice = Azure function + CosmosDB.
We've extrapolated to that idea to multicloud! As we speak, we're already having troubles converting some of the SQL database structures to a NoSQL format and everyone is like "hmmmm this seems difficult"
Also going down this route means the serverless function <--> database communication is gonna be chatty af. It's all gonna blow up in a few ways. Y'all are lucky to see this shitshow go down in real time.
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RE: Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!
@Arantor said in Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!:
because Ruby in general has a reputation more in the toilet than PHP does
Whoa what the fuck? Source? I'm interested cos I've heard nothing but good stuff about Ruby/RoR.
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RE: Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!
@LaoC The cost for me learning about ingress / egress being a thing was about 1500 USD paid to AWS. My bad but boy oh boy those costs add up like no one else's business.
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RE: Even Amazon can't make sense of microservices!
Last week there was a huge meeting with all the technical folks about revamping the application to the latest architecture.
What we have
A monolith web app running on a VM that connects to SQL Server on the cloud with some serverless functions and storage.
New architecture
Serverless functions + NoSQL databases + storage. That web app is going to be split into about 85 microservices (Serverless func + NoSQL database) and NoSQL databases for literally any other data storage. IIRC and there is a lot of cross cloud communication cos of a demented idea of High Availability.
I wanna stay along for the ride to see the many ways in which this will spectacularly blow up!
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RE: It semms Jeff Atwood has deleted his twitter account
@boomzilla said in It semms Jeff Atwood has deleted his twitter account:
@codinghorror1 said in It semms Jeff Atwood has deleted his twitter account:
@error said in It semms Jeff Atwood has deleted his twitter account:
It felt like you seemed to know better than us how our community should be run, and we were going to have Civilized Discourse whether we liked it or not.
Well, you had synanon going here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon -- a culture of debasement and criticism. Me telling you that culture isn't healthy isn't "whether you like it or not", it's more "will we survive as a community?"
What you want is..
Don't tell us what we want when you continue to demonstrate that you don't understand us. As already said here, not everyone thinks like you. Your answers don't work for everyone, but your toxic habit of shoving your opinions down everyone's throat as though they were pronouncements from God kind of turn people off from time to time.
You act like you have some kind of expertise about "civilized discourse"and community but your posts and history tell a different story.
Ouch.
Also is this the real Jeff Atwood?
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RE: Pros and cons of various front-end web frameworks
@Arantor said in Pros and cons of various front-end web frameworks:
Is it weird that I like Vue over React because React’s syntax appears to be “well just jam any old shit in here”, where it effortlessly segues between logic and presentation, where Vue at least pretends to separate them somewhat.
A lot of people like Vue over React. One of the largest discount brokers in India that pretty much can be considered No 1 an is the gold standard for trading uses Vue. When I spoke to one of the guys from their team about choosing Vue over React, he told me they wouldn't have been able to move as fast as they are if they'd chosen React over Vue.
I myself am considering using Vue for all my toy/scam products. Can someone with extensive experience in Vue comment? I like NextJS but React is fucking annoying with that JSX bullshit, gives me a headache everytime.
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RE: Azure bites
@Gribnit said in Azure bites:
I have a 100% effective solution- use AWS.
That warrants a whole another thread. Don't get me started.
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RE: Azure bites
@Bulb said in Azure bites:
@stillwater said in Azure bites:
You've barely scratched the surface.
I know. I already have another two things to rant about! I just have to get around to posting them.
I've literally paused my work for this my guy. Please post it soon!!!
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RE: Azure bites
@Bulb said in Azure bites:
but it's kinda drowned in the wall of text. That's my general gripe with this Azure documentation—the useful information is always drowned in walls of quintuplicated text.
Generally with MS documentation, this is the one I always have a problem with. There is plenty of docs but the relevant info is hidden under so much fluff you'd most probably miss it.
Like how hard you hold it is always a matter of delicate balance when it comes to jerking off with sandpaper around your dick, so is relevant and easily discoverable documentation I suppose.
GCP gets it right somehow IMO.
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RE: Azure bites
An Azure fuckery thread eh? Welcome to a world of pain. You've barely scratched the surface. Between upgrading to newer version of libraries and shit buried under a ton of documentation, you're gonna have a great time. When you search for solutions, check if there is an issue logged for it on GitHub. That's how I solved 90% of my Azure issues.
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RE: It semms Jeff Atwood has deleted his twitter account
@Tsaukpaetra I did not even notice it until you pointed it out. Huh.
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RE: Discourse is not TRWTF…
Guys, maybe I'm wrong here and happy to be proven wrong but do I sense some humble bragging with the "oh noes it's so annoying how investors keep emailing me how so tiring"?
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RE: The Official Status Thread
@Zenith said in The Official Status Thread:
when you can practically see the beach ball or hourglass spinning in their glassed over eyes
That's the most accurate description of this phenomenon I've ever seen. There are so many people afflicted with this it's not even funny anymore, especially when they're driving.
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RE: The Official Status Thread
@TimeBandit How old was this person? Approximately.
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RE: Pros and cons of various front-end web frameworks
You're asking "I wanna play with shit piss and cum what's more fun"? The answer is - rainbow colored pisscumshitball!
I highly recommend learning Next.js. If you take a top down approach to learning a new shiny toy, you will pick up essential parts of React when you learn Nextjs. You will also learn about things like SSR, API routes and such.
This is the super sweet spot between getting some shit done with an SPA framework and resume padding like a boss. I did it not too long ago. Remember to have fun!
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RE: Bad choice of font
@dkf LAGA DYGA has a nice ring to it unlike her name or the music that she makes.
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RE: Hyperinstrumentemia H̶y̶p̶e̶r̶t̶o̶o̶l̶e̶m̶i̶a̶
In my experience, once you touch Kubernetes you eventually end up adding 20 other tools and frameworks where exactly one person knows what the fuck is going on and he gets paid a lot. That's all that I know.
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RE: Random thought of the day
@dcon Can you promote mine? You’ll get curry and scams for free if you do that.
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RE: The Cat Status Thread
@error If it is any consolation, one of my cats came back after a month or so. Hang in there.
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RE: :baby_symbol: Parenting advice - you're gonna get hit
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2021/01/what-its-like-growing-family-never-lies/617773/
This was a very interesting read. People with kids, how do you make sure your kid has a balanced view of this? If you teach them to just lie only when needed it might easily pave the road to lying left right and center and then there is the other extreme like the article. I've always been fascinated with this aspect of parenting and have never gotten satisfactory answers. Or is this all wing it and hope for the best?
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RE: Don't test...not even in production!
@Zecc said in Don't test...not even in production!:
I mean, five months is a long time to be debugging
It took me about 10 seconds to get that joke.
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RE: Don't test...not even in production!
I once made an XSLT file that processed some financial information and was mission critical sufficiently complex it offered me unmatched job security I haven’t seen since then.
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RE: Don't test...not even in production!
@Bulb Laziness at learning other languages I understand. When that same laziness leaks onto not learning how to write JS properly, well that hurts everyone. Also debugging with some of the frameworks is such a pain that I use console.log liberally everywhere.
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RE: Don't test...not even in production!
@dkf Again the problem here is not the language as much the people around it. A good chunk of the codebase devolves into just plain old JS at one point because adhering to type checks when writing JS gives these people the very kind of friction that prevented them from learning more than one language to use on the front end and back end in the first place
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RE: Don't test...not even in production!
I don't understand the "you can use the same language across the backend and frontend omg omg amazing" argument.
Let us take a step back and look at the languages we've been using. There used to be Java or C# or scala or whatnot and then JS on the frontend when required, SQL for the database. Python or Bash or Powershell for some scripts and it was all a mix and nobody had a single problem switching between them. Even context switching between languages when your'e working on an end-to-end feature was not a big deal.
I understand this is easy because we're used to it. And even then it was not a big fucking deal. Using JS everywhere is not fucking cool. some cunt once wrote JS on Azure functions and it had so many hard-to-trace issues because of fucking undefined here and there.
The solution to all this is - ADD TYPES TO JS TYPESCRIPTTTTTTTTTTT
Have some self respect and learn a couple languages maybe, how hard is it? I am tired of this JS everywhere BS fucking POS everyone can go die.
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RE: Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition
@boomzilla Can someone tell me what I'm looking at here?
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RE: The Official Status Thread
Also they say everything is gonna be decentralised and won’t be controlled by a single entity. How might a decentralised cloudflare look like? Is everyone gonna have their own cloud provider at home? I’m missing a big chunk of the sales pitch here.
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RE: Git is amazing! Or Not!!
A colleague when solving a merge conflict overwrote the latest version which had a piece of code when absent caused a build error. I go digging and find this out, call my colleague and show him this and he goes "hey that was not the piece of code I wrote" and I go "I know. That was someone else's code and when you solved your merge conflict you did something like 'take local' and blindly overwrote the code on the server". I repeat the same explanation again and after a couple times he goes "Man this is so confusing. I'm sorry can you fix this". lolwtffml I helped him out but wtf.
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RE: The Official Status Thread
@dcon X1 is a Thinkpad. Any Thinkpad is the only Lenovo worth buying anymore!
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RE: The Official Status Thread
@dcon I've had these lenovo slim series laptops the keyboards are really bad. I'd never buy a lenovo slim series again. You might wanna reconsider.
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RE: Git is amazing! Or Not!!
@boomzilla I think we all intuitively see as flow through time. I can never ever understand the other approach cos the dissonance between what it means and what I think it should mean never goes away.