Today the long-dead Windows 10 Facebook app was auto-updated to a PWA version running on Edge Chromium. Even the login credentials are shared, so the state of logged-in-ness is synchronized between Edge and the app. Not a really app-like behaviour.
Best posts made by marczellm
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RE: Mystery of the Facebook apps for Windows
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RE: Smart TV boxes
The Netflix library here is very weird.
It does have Captain America: Civil War but not the first one. Same thing with Avengers.
From Star Wars only The Force Awakens is there.
It offers a lot of titles as search suggestions that are not available.
I hate this copyright shit. They could make some money off of this but they want more money so in the end I don't get to watch their movies so they get no money. How does that make sense?
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RE: Windows 10 Fail Craters Update
@dkf said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:
@marczellm said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:
One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either.
People still install that?
Hungarian tax reporting software is written in Swing.
My bank's software too.
https://www.cib.hu/^upload/Kepek/npapi_6.pngBoth institutions are in the process of replacing said apps with web apps, but not quite there yet. The tax thing might take several years I think.
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RE: MS Office being rewritten in JavaScript?
@gąska said in MS Office being rewritten in JavaScript?:
@luhmann am I the only one here who used Windows 3.1?
No, I did too.
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RE: Don't use [3rd-party logins] to sign into to sites...
Also don’t Sign In With Google to WTDWTF, because
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:wtf: is GTA V doing in the pause menu?
Pressing Esc in GTA V brings up the pause menu (map, settings, stats etc.)
GTA V must be doing some horrible hack here because- Navigating the map lags
- At least one third of my button presses and mouse clicks while navigating the menu are ignored.
- If I Alt+Tab out of the game, ~2 out of 3 times the Windows key is virtually held down so that pressing any key brings up various Windows UIs (S search, A action center, W ink workspace...). This stays that way unless I go back to the game and exit it properly. So I cannot launch a browser and search for something.
- Heavy CPU and/or disk usage by the game even though it's minimized by now
There are some fixes or workarounds on Reddit and stuff, but c'mon...
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RE: The absolute state of faxing in 2020
@topspin said in The absolute state of faxing in 2020:
@SlackerD said in The absolute state of faxing in 2020:
I can't find a link to the image when I use developer tools.
In Firefox you don’t even need to comb through the html with developer tools. Just go to “page information” -> “media” and it lists all media on the page with URL and a save as button.
And even easier: Shift+right click forces the context menu. Only times it doesn’t go to the image or video element is when some other element is overlaid on top.
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RE: Hungarian personal income tax reporting software
@marczellm Support replied, pointing out the third possible way of exporting an XML from the desktop app.
Some months later my mother got an email saying the two versions of her tax report (the one the desktop app uploaded while giving no confirmation of it like it used to, and the one exported from there and uploaded on the web app) do not match up and she has to go to their offices in person.
Now I received a Drive folder of 29 job openings at the company that made the web app. Word docs written in Hungarian. Here's a few things they mention:
- Hibernate, Eclipse, JSF, GlassFish, Oracle DB, PL-SQL
- DOJO on the frontend
- Solaris, RedHat, Suse Linux (they mention VMWare ESXi as an OS)
- MQ Series
- The Data Warehouse maintainer has to "install several 10s of new program versions a day"
- Badly written stuff such as "Senior JAVA frontend/WebDesign developer: JAVA Script development"
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RE: ‘Next Gen’ Ubuntu Installer - ELECTRON
@codejunkie said in ‘Next Gen’ Ubuntu Installer - ELECTRON:
@julianlam said in ‘Next Gen’ Ubuntu Installer - ELECTRON:
Also Windows does the same thing, depending on the program...
Windows does not do this.
Depending on the running OS version and the version the program was written for, when the program is written correctly, a default installation can write files to:
- C:\Program Files
- C:\Program Files (x86)
- C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Company\App
- C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Company\App
- C:\Users\Me\AppData\LocalLow\Company\App
- C:\Users\All Users\... (something something)
- C:\ProgramData\Company\App
Do you think that learning which is which is easier than learning the Linux folder structure?
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RE: Buffalo buffalo ref buffalo
@Applied-Mediocrity said in Buffalo buffalo ref buffalo:
ref @ref.@ref @ref(ref @ref.@ref @ref) => ref @ref;
The reason that's extra funny for me as a Hungarian, is that "röf" is the common onomatopoeia for what a pig says
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RE: Mystery of the Facebook apps for Windows
I just attempted to browse my Facebook Page's messages in app. Gradually my computer slowed to a crawl. Task Manager revealed that every time you click something in Page Messages (e. g. Delete message, Archive message, switching folders, or just entering and exiting selection mode), a new Facebook process is started. Which is a browser process because the last one loaded without the CSS all Times New Roman-y. These processes all eat 50 MB of memory on average.
Then I got an error message with a link saying "Back to home". Clicking it took me to the News Feed but with a very different layout. It had a "This website uses cookies" notice on the top.
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RE: Outlook being Outlook
I have flexible working hours, which I use for my music projects, which in some cases tend to come up on short notice, such as rehearsals. On the other hand I would like not to be the guy at work who always asks for meetings to be rescheduled.
Originally I synced my work calendar to my desktop PC together with my private calendar so I could see it together when scheduling stuff. Then that was banned by the IT department. Then I hacked up a Python script that runs periodically on my work PC, fires up Outlook via COM, and copies all the calendar events to a private Google calendar. Then the periodical sync stopped working because of some group policy, now I run the script manually every few days.
Now Microsoft is coming up with "New Outlook" which most importantly is not a desktop mail client at all, everything goes through the MS cloud even when using another mail provider:
When this finally rolls out, my COM script will stop working. What would y'all recommend?
(Obviously Outlook has a web API too which is, also obviously, restricted to only those third party apps explicitly allowed by the IT department.)
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RE: We need *all the shiny*
@hungrier said in We need *all the shiny*:
I guess this is what they call a classy website
<html class="js sizes applicationcache cookies geolocation history json notification postmessage svg websockets cssescape supports target localstorage sessionstorage websqldatabase svgfilters webworkers svgasimg hashchange inputsearchevent pointerevents audio canvas canvastext video webgl adownload bgpositionshorthand csscalc cubicbezierrange cssgradients multiplebgs opacity csspointerevents no-regions cssremunit rgba preserve3d hidden no-capture fileinput fileinputdirectory formattribute placeholder sandbox no-seamless srcset scriptdefer scriptasync inlinesvg textareamaxlength csschunit cssexunit hsla svgclippaths svgforeignobject smil mediaqueries no-hiddenscroll checked displaytable display-table fontface generatedcontent cssinvalid lastchild nthchild cssscrollbar siblinggeneral no-subpixelfont cssvalid cssvhunit cssvmaxunit cssvminunit cssvwunit formvalidation textshadow indexeddb indexeddb-deletedatabase requestanimationframe raf backgroundblendmode objectfit object-fit no-wrapflow cssanimations csspseudoanimations backgroundcliptext bgpositionxy bgrepeatround bgrepeatspace backgroundsize bgsizecover borderimage borderradius boxshadow boxsizing csscolumns csscolumns-width csscolumns-span csscolumns-fill csscolumns-gap csscolumns-rule csscolumns-rulecolor csscolumns-rulestyle csscolumns-rulewidth csscolumns-breakbefore csscolumns-breakafter csscolumns-breakinside ellipsis cssfilters flexbox flexwrap cssmask no-overflowscrolling cssreflections cssresize shapes textalignlast csstransforms csstransforms3d csstransitions csspseudotransitions userselect no-apng desktop landscape no-touchevents">
Modernizer
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RE: YAWTC (Yet Another Windows Ten Complaint)
Our household is a fabulous museum. In order from newest to oldest:
Windows 10 era
My brother's laptop.
Windows 8 era
My sister's laptop, but that was so cheap it's generally unusable.
My desktop, bought for semi-serious gaming in ~2014.
Both running 10 now.Vista era
My laptop is a 10 year old Toshiba. I used for a long time with 7 then managed to upgrade it to 10. The Windows key doesn't work and the hard drive behaves weird sometimes, but all of my stuff is in Google Drive anyway. Only for web browsing and Office editing when away from home.
My mother's laptop is a 10 year old HP. It ran Vista (it was unbearably slow recently) until this week I installed Linux Mint Xfce on it. It's not slow anymore and my mother is very happy with it.XP era
My old desktop, now running 7 with some added RAM and still used by my father.
My father's Compaq laptop and small netbook, the latter used for web browsing on business trips, the former kept solely for its RS-232 port to communicate with even older cinema processors.98 era
My father's main desktop, still running Win98. There are some webpages and PDFs it can't open which is when he goes to the other room to my old desktop PC.
3.1 era
My father's other desktop which he still does company finance related Excel work on.
Other
A functional Enterprise 128 in the closet, with a custom modified floppy drive.
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RE: Outlook being Outlook
I spent around half an hour this week fiddling around with the 4 different desktop versions of Outlook comparing different screens and feature sets. I now understand why they want to throw out the old Windows desktop app. There are infinite number of complex but mostly meaningless UI customization options and each of them is subtly broken in a different way.
Old Outlook for Mac
New Outlook for Mac
Old and new Outlook for Windows
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RE: BAs are harder than BScs (:giggity:)
@dkf said in BAs are harder than BScs ():
@WernerCD said in BAs are harder than BScs ():
Multiple choice tests where you could, at worst, rule out 2 of 4 answers and have a 50/50 shot on a guess.
Be careful of such things. Not all MCQ exams are scored by counting up the number of right answers; some have negative scores for some answers, and some even require that you get critical questions right or it is an instant fail. They probably ought to tell you if this is what is going on…
I had to do a phsyics test once, where the scoring worked like this:
- Every "question" consists of 5 true/false statements
- You get 0.2 points for a correct answer
- You get -0.2 points for an incorrect answer
- You get 0 points for no answer.
So at the end, 5 correct answers is worth 1 point. Most of the questions were like this:
a) Statement (T/F)
b) Some other statement (T/F)
c) Yet another statement (T/F)
d) Moar statement (T/F)
e) Soar mtatement (T/F)But then one of them was this:
Assuming the experiment is set up like that and the constants are this and this, what is the value of this variable?
a) 0.2 (T/F)
b) 0.4 (T/F)
c) 0.6 (T/F)
d) 0.8 (T/F)
e) 1.2 (T/F)So you could say all 5 are false and still get 0.6 points.
@RaceProUK said in BAs are harder than BScs ():
@dkf That reminds me of a teleconference I was in once with a company in… I forget the country, but their accent made 'check-in' sound like 'chicken'. At one point, a couple of my cow-orkers at the time actually had to leave the room, they were that close to cracking
I kept my composure throughout.
I recently heard a story where someone was teleconferencing with Canadian colleagues, the work was very stressing, and time to time this is what they would hear:
KEEP FUCK US!
After a while they worked up the nerve to ask what the problem is, and it turned out that's how a Canadian pronounces
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Big list of webapps masquerading as nativehttps://www.hipchat.com/downloadsposted in Side Bar WTF
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RE: The Raku Programming Language
@Gurth said in The Raku Programming Language:
in everyday life, people write × for a multiplication symbol.
Except for everyday people in everyday life typing the letter
x
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RE: Spork code
Not code, but PowerPoint lecture slides at my university. The professors use it for two things:
- Substitute for lecture notes that they could use to remember what they wanted to present.
- Substitute for handout lecture notes that we could use to learn the material.
So the slides are unnecessarily verbose for presentation, but they don't contain enough information to be a useful learning resource.
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RE: Some Anti-Patterns At My Job
You sir should absolutely gather all your Samsung WTFs in one place. Then I would show it to all my friends who understand IT and programming and use Samsung phones.
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RE: Close enough security
@boomzilla said in Close enough security:
We probably talked about this phenomenon somewhere
Yes we did
@marczellm said in Mystery of the Facebook apps for Windows:
If I append one arbitrary additional character to my password in the Facebook app I can still login successfully.
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RE: “Just use Chrome”
@kazitor said in “Just use Chrome”:
Standards are codified by the WebKit source code now.
I am also pissed off by the Chrome-only mentality, but "Standards" are like Morals: being pissed off by people not following them, or making up their own ones, doesn't make the world better, only your mood worse.
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RE: DEAR FIREFOX
@Jaloopa said in DEAR FIREFOX:
That's why Microsoft have a browser that uses their own proprietary rendering engine instead of a standard one... Oh, wait
you seem to have an interesting definition of the word "standard"
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RE: Nobody shares Drunk better than this.
@NeighborhoodButcher said in Why my friend had to retake his C++ course with a different professor:
Don't you just love the situatuins where someone has zero experience in some ragard but posts like an expert? I'm drunk now so I'll allow myslef this - blaky - your a piece of shit idiot and you know shit. go kill yourself,m because you are shit. Or get a clue and THEN post.
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RE: Big list of webapps masquerading as native
@heterodox said in Big list of webapps masquerading as native:
In the... Java command line? Same as all the other JVM properties? And users would change it if they wanted to change the default look and feel. That's how it works. It's a matter of preference; they don't have to.
I mean: Given any Java Swing application (such as the Hungarian tax reporting software), do you really think that there exists even one user that is
- aware that such a thing as JVM properties exist
- interested in changing the default look and feel?
Because I think there is no such user. From a user perspective, if I even start to think about how an application looks like or how it should look like, it means the developer has done something wrong.
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RE: The Official Funny Stuff Thread™
New to thread, TLDR. I've just found that someone trained a recurrent neural network on the Linux source code and the network noticed that all source code must be published under an appropriate license. Looking at the generated code, the network seems to better understand these legal matters than me:
/* This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License (Version 2)) * are without working write to whin the following * conditions. * * Must be Opened or into the Linux kernel and walks is licensed * without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, * publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to * puttion of the Software. * * THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, * EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF * MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT OWNER(S) WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS * OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A * APTHERW UNDERFL�SING IN ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR AB SHARED THARLING BE LIABLE FOR * ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES * WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY * DIECFAIN OR WHODECYCLICS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY DAMAGES * WHATSOEVER REwULL HEADERS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT, * STALL THE COPSTRICT OF THE SOFTWARE, END AND CONTRIBUTORS BY THE COPYRIGHT OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE * LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR * CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT FOR SUBSTITUTE * FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND * NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, * DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES * WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ** ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN * CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. * * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software * Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110, * USA * * Original derived from the file copyright and license sentinel method released * or incorporation.) This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the * GNU General Public License for more details. * * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software * Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor, Boston, MA 02110, USA * * Modifications for software dirtied or permitposize. */
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RE: It's tools all the way down!
@Arantor said in It's tools all the way down!:
it is worth hammering out the odd rough edge from your whatever to make
the CI processeverybody's life easier - somethingthe devopsfolks tend to eschew in favour of complexityin the pipeline later.FTFY
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RE: Wow! "NEW" Microsoft Teams!
@JBert well actually... Outlook has TWO "New" versions because the new Mac version is an entirely different app
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RE: Fall Creators Update, or how to fuck up the OS from start to finish
@atazhaia said in Fall Creators Update, or how to fuck up the OS from start to finish:
Explain to me the point of FastBoot for anyone who isn't still running Windows off a mechanical harddrive?
those people actually exist, you know? Only my computer geek friends and IT professionals use SSDs AFAIK.
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RE: Windows 10 and another brilliant idea from Microsoft
@ben_lubar said in Windows 10 and another brilliant idea from Microsoft:
Microsoft would have been at fault for granting programs permissions without user input.
They are. Everything is allowed to do everything unless the user opts out. The Store page for apps lists the permissions that they require but upon installation they are automatically granted.
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RE: WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else
@LB_ said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
The Microsoft engineers who did internal testing of Windows were laid off. Microsoft no longer has an internal quality control department.
This sounds like bullshit. Citation needed.
Also, I tried to pin Excel to the Start Menu but apparently stabbed it to death:
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RE: Conexant soundcard drivers includes free keylogger!
@sloosecannon said in Conexant soundcard drivers includes free keylogger!:
Oh also, I am reminded of realtek.
They're what passes for "normal" in the sound card world, so nothing here should surprise anyone
Woohoo!
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RE: How will you deal with the coming Firefox apocalypse?
More Firefox apocalypse: bookmark descriptions and "Open in Sidebar" feature removed, also some smart bookmark folders.
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RE: Edge
I just found that Microsoft Edge fails both the Acid1 and Acid2 tests on my computer.
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RE: Windoze 10 Fall 2018 Flopdate, now with even more nothingness
@El_Heffe I never said you were making it up, I just couldn't find the link with a quick google search.
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RE: Visual Studio WTF
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Visual Studio WTF:
*pointer++ = arithmetic on *pointer
I've never understood why people wrote those kinds of expressions in the first place. Or rather, I too loved writing them in like the second year of university and then grew out of it not being able to read my own code later. I think the Single Responsibility Principle should apply in some way to lines of code too, and "do something to the pointee then increment the pointer" violates it. And still literature is chock full of these lines.
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RE: Big list of webapps masquerading as native
@scholrlea It's the way of the world, man, you gotta keep up!
I think it's because there is no comprehensive cross-platform UI solution for C# yet.
I like C# by the way.
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RE: Windows 10 Fail Craters Update
I have a lot of things installed at
D:\Program Files
instead ofC:
The upgrade process redirected all my Start Menu shortcuts to C:\Program Files and created new ones with names likeMicrosoft Word (1)
that point to the correct place.
The upgrade process also rewrote some registry entries that pointed to paths insideD:\Program Files
, so the SONAR DAW could not start for example because it couldn't find its "shared components" folder. I had to reinstall after removing all its registry entries.I figured out that the reason Google Desktop broke is the same: it couldn't launch the browser from a wronged path stored somewhere.
One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either. (It says it does that to verify the Java plugin is working, then opens the page in Firefox which says the plugin is not supported anymore.)
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RE: Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]
@aitap said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
Which user's problem does it solve?
The Store has automatic background updates. Previously each if these apps installed their own custom inefficient buggy updater service with annoying popup notifucations
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RE: Smart TV boxes
@unperverted-vixen said in Smart TV boxes:
@marczellm said in Smart TV boxes:
The Netflix library here is very weird.
It does have Captain America: Civil War but not the first one. Same thing with Avengers.
From Star Wars only The Force Awakens is there.
That makes perfect sense. Star Wars pre-The Force Awakens was released by Fox, and older Marvel movies were released by Paramount (except The Incredible Hulk, which was Universal). So Netflix has a deal with Disney, but not Paramount or Universal.
Makes sense, except that to me, it does not make sense that Paramount or Universal does not want me to watch their movies apparently?
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RE: Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows and the unwanted apps [Angry rant time]:
So... will this include Windows 10 Pro for the Windows 10 Pro version that I currently have installed? Why bother making a dropdown with one option?
When i wanted to get a Win8 ISO for my then new 64bit PC, the ISO creator couldn't get a 64bit ISO because it was running on a 32bit OS.
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RE: MS Office being rewritten in JavaScript?
@gąska said in MS Office being rewritten in JavaScript?:
@marczellm I think you might be confusing Office with Office 365.
I think it is confusing its own developers then.
Because if I pay for an Office 365 subscription I get
- various cloud services (OneDrive etc.)
- including Office Online
- desktop Office suite
So Office 365 includes Office.
This guy on twitter is talking about how they are going to use a single codebase that will be compiled from JS to native on all platforms. Which means it's not just the website.
- various cloud services (OneDrive etc.)