Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Different sources disagree, as it’s really just down to usage and how different insults evolved differently. I use both affectionately, but see geek as more positively connoted (first image).
If it's used as an insult then of course it can mean anything, it's just used to be mean.
When used as a self-assigned title I always understood it as
- nerd: prefers books and facts over feelings, and tends to obsess over details
- geek: technically a nerd, but at least one with social skills
I guess your diagram works better.
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@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
An extroverted programmer looks at your shoes when he's talking to you.
I thought they were called poofs?
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@Carnage said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Nerd is overly interested, geek is a personality... As far as I understand it.
When I was in college, nerd was used primarily as a verb. I'm going to D-Level to nerd for a while.
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I've just told the two elderly neighbours living below me that if they don't want to leave their appartments I can take care of their groceries or other tasks.
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Back to your scheduled programming:
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
I was seriously considering purchasing a condom. Just for the novelty.
I've heard they make great waterbombs.
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@JBert I need that!
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@Parody said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@jinpa said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Dragoon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Hey? Watch who you are calling a geek. Some of us are just introverts, no need to get nasty about it.
Geek has become less of an insult than it used to be. Some geeks would be insulted to be called introverts.
Also, no one was talking about geeks until @Mason_Wheeler brought them up.
Do the terms "nerd" and "geek" have different meanings/connotations for you? To me they're used in the same ways and @Mason_Wheeler was just responding to the article link you posted.
A geek is someone who likes something geeky. Comic books, science fiction, video games, etc.
A nerd may be a geek, but is most definitely socially awkward. A geek might be socially awkward, but not necessarily.
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@boomzilla
Y’all’r rubes.
Yer geek’s a carny what does rude shit afore a live group of rubes to GTFM.
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Oof:
Germany blocks exports of medical supplies to Rome and ECB president shakes market confidence
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When Italy asked for urgent medical supplies under a special European crisis mechanism no EU country responded. Fearful of its own shortages, Germany initially banned the export of medical masks and other protective gear. 3M, a producer, said the German restrictions had made it impossible to supply the Italian market. Berlin subsequently relaxed the export rules, but then Austria closed its borders to people arriving from Italy unless they could prove they were virus-free.
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@boomzilla that's weird. Official statements (make of that what you will) made it clear from the beginning that export bans where supposed to secure supplies from the hoarding idiots and price gouging assholes, but help for struggling EU neighbors wasn't going to be restricted.
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@boomzilla it's becoming a debacle. What with Lagarde sounding aloof and insensitive, EU countries stating they will help Italy, then not anymore, then maybe, after China sent a load of medical aid + a special medical team, it's "oof" all right. From a PR standpoint it's a total disaster
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Yeah, and they're doing this thing where they hang the Tricolore (our national flag) with #andràtuttobene ("everything is going to be all right") written on it. Or "flash mobs" with people coming out of their balconies for an applause at set times. Needless to say, it's quite cringeworthy especially the applause thingy (the flags are fine, I guess, of course I don't care for the fucking hashtag... I guess I just gotta let it go), but the music stuff is fun.
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@admiral_p said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Needless to say, it's quite cringeworthy
You remind me of my idiot kids who act like this when a display of emotion makes them uncomfortable.
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@boomzilla Europeans generally speaking are not as obsessed with patriotic displays as the US. Italy especially has a love/hate relationship with the concept of "nation". It is cringeworthy because it's only like a couple of families each block doing it.
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@El_Heffe said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
For example, it is well known that a Chinese/black crossing creates, invariably a car thief that cannot drive
He is a master troll, indeed. I have no idea how he ended up not being president.
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Aaaaand an idiot living above me seems to have decided that this is now the best time to have a party. He's got another 30 minutes before I ask him to turn that shit down.
Protip: If you want to have a party in an appartment complex, at least have the courtesy of announcing that to your neighbours before the event.
Everything else just leads to grumpy people and needless police involvement.
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Dear Belgians,
The fact we have a prohibition of assembly at 100 people while you have a full forced closure of all restaurants, pubs, etc. does not mean we've being irresponsible. It also doesn't mean you can mass go to Dutch pubs.
Thanks for your understanding,
The Dutch.
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@PleegWat Looks like last night's party moved over the border then?
TL;DR
B#####n government: you seriously need to stop gathering. We'll close the shops and bars.
B#####n people: sure, but first we'll go for a last drink, there's a jolly crowd over here.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
all of our Scout activities are canceled
National BSA has cancelled all activities - troop meetings, pack meetings, campouts, the whole bit - regardless of location.
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@dcon said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@sockpuppet7 said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@nerd4sale said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
The good thing about Corona is, that a lot of meetings at work are now cancelled since they are "not essential". Makes me wonder they were planned in the first place.
But I now finally have time to get things done.
Ha, our office is so crowded we actually are less exposed to viruses when we're at a meeting room
Maybe this will be the death of open offices?
In Brazil at least I don't think so, I never heard of private offices for anyone that isn't at least a manager here, and at my current job everyone below the VPs were moved to the open plan.
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@JBert said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
B#####n people: sure, but first we'll go
stand in line for hours to buy toilet paper and then we are going for a last drink, there's a jolly crowd over here.
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https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/487552-covid-19-facts-myths-and-hypotheses
These are the reasons we put people in quarantine. Not to stop the epidemic, because it cannot be stopped; too many are infected around the world, and people keep traveling, further spreading the disease. Instead, the goal of quarantine is largely to reduce the speed at which the epidemic spreads, in order not to saturate ICU beds.
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@boomzilla Yeah, on the other hand our newspapers just reported that Trump personally offered quite a bit of money to a German pharma company which is developing a vaccine to get their scientists to come to the US and develop the vaccine there.
Exclusively for the US, not to share.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Protip: If you want to have a party in an appartment complex, at least have the courtesy of announcing that to your neighbours before the event.
Everything else just leads to grumpy people and needless police involvement.
While the Italians are singing,
@Rhywdenthe Germans call for the Hausordnung!
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@Rhywden I can't read the non-language, but I managed to google up an article in English:
The prominent German media outlet reported, citing unnamed sources, that US President Donald Trump was offering large sums of money to German scientists working on a vaccine. He wanted to secure exclusive rights to their work, the newspaper reported.
Trump was doing everything he could to secure a vaccine for the United States, "but only for the US," the newspaper quoted an anonymous German government source as saying.
We're in the wrong category so no comment from me.
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@topspin said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Hausordnung!
I hope you remembered to sneeze into your elbow and not your hand.
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@Gąska You'll note that Boomzilla's article also wasn't very forthcoming with actual sources.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska You'll note that Boomzilla's article also wasn't very forthcoming with actual sources.
No, I won't.
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@Gąska Well... anyways, the Ministry of Health has stated to several other media outlets that the government is indeed talking extensively with CureVac about the development of a vaccine staying in Germany and Europe in general. That wouldn't be necessary if there wasn't some ... outside influence.
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@Rhywden I'm sure there is. There always is. Especially now that the whole world is in crisis mode and they want to get rid of the virus as fast as possible. But it doesn't have to be about exclusivity of the final product. It might be about delivery time - if the production were to be done in USA, it would take a while to ship and would involve way more people than necessary. It might also be about tax money - everyone wants companies to pay taxes in their country.
When something sounds too crazy to be true, usually it's not (or not entirely).
Could you drop a few official statements about CureVac please? I have trouble googling anything up. Can be in Deutshzchf - I'm fine with using translator.
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@Gąska
Not conclusive proof of anything, but the last two press releases on their homepage seem relevant:- March 3rd: CureVac CEO Daniel Menichella Discusses Coronavirus Vaccine Development with U.S. President Donald Trump and Members of Coronavirus Task Force
- March 11th: Company Founder Ingmar Hoerr Succeeds Daniel Menichella as CEO of CureVac AG
Edit: In case you don't want to read the articles or the homepage goes down later: What's interesting besides the titles and the timing is the fact that the former CEO came from the US subsidiary and is most likely a US citizen. (His first name is abbreviated as "Dan" in the statement.) The (presumably German) stakeholders have now replaced him with a German citizen, who "knows the company best".
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yeah, on the other hand our newspapers just reported that Trump personally offered quite a bit of money to a German pharma company which is developing a vaccine to get their scientists to come to the US and develop the vaccine there.
Exclusively for the US, not to share.
Saw that in Dutch news as well this morning.
Please tell me seizing all assets and personnel of a company in the national interest is still possible under the German constitution.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
B#####n people: sure, but first we'll go
stand in line for hours to buy toilet paper and then we are going for a last drink, there's a jolly crowd over here.There as well? Got any pictures of those fools?
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
When something sounds too crazy to be true, usually it's not (or not entirely).
I'm pretty sure Trump is POTUS though.
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
Please tell me seizing all assets and personnel of a company in the national interest is still possible under the German constitution.
Germany is/was blocking export of various medical goods out of the country, so I would assume that that's a yes. Newspaper report about a container from China (!) destined to Switzerland being held in Germany under a new regulation from 4th of March. France apparently has similar restrictions, as does Italy. That particular situation was resolved in a few days however, and the shipment went through. I doubt it's the last we'll hear of it in general, though.
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Yeah, on the other hand our newspapers just reported that Trump personally offered quite a bit of money to a German pharma company which is developing a vaccine to get their scientists to come to the US and develop the vaccine there.
Exclusively for the US, not to share.
This is the kind of story that pays to wait a few days and see what people willing to put their name behind their information have to say.
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@Gąska said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Gąska You'll note that Boomzilla's article also wasn't very forthcoming with actual sources.
No, I won't.
Huh. Wasn't paywalled when I posted.
Here's a related article:
A diplomatic spat has erupted between Germany and neighbors Switzerland and Austria over a decision last week by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government to ban most exports of protective medical equipment.
Switzerland has called in the German ambassador to complain about the decision to block a shipment of 240,000 face masks, while Austria’s economy minister demanded her German counterpart order the release of supplies destined for her country.
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@Luhmann said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@JBert said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
"B#####n people: sure, but first we'll gostand in line for hours to buy toilet paper and then we are going for a last drink, there's a jolly crowd over here."Similar happenings in Chicago, at least:
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I'm not sure how to react to this:
http://archive.is/galoH
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@boomzilla pretty bad idea. From some Berlin news that are too local to find a translation for, so I’ll just post the gist of it: Out of Berlin’s currently ~260 cases 42 are due to visiting a club where a single infected person spread it to all of them.
(While the article is from today, that doesn’t mean said party was yesterday and the people were being irresponsible idiots. It was apparently two weeks ago. The point is just that going to the club right now carries the risk of increasing the base infection rate tenfold)
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@boomzilla is “The Sunday Times” a satirical piece?
The headline reads like a joke I’d write.
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@boomzilla Our ministry of health just confirmed the newspaper article to be correct
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@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Our ministry of health just confirmed the newspaper article to be correct
Details still seem pretty light and my experience with these reports say that we need to wait for more to come out.
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@boomzilla said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@Rhywden said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
@boomzilla Our ministry of health just confirmed the newspaper article to be correct
Details still seem pretty light and my experience with these reports say that we need to wait for more to come out.
Agreed. Particularly, the fact the DE government is aware of the issue practically guarantees US exclusivity won't happen.
Also consider this is about a vaccine, not a cure - so it probably won't become relevant until the 2022 flu season.
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Meanwhile in the UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvtUCUM9yCU
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@PleegWat said in Tales from Coronavee-rooss Italy, mamma mia!:
US exclusivity
It'll be about the US gaining the economic benefits of the exclusivity over manufacturing of the vaccine for something that will probably become an annual disease a bit like flu. They'll sell to everyone (it doesn't make sense not to, as the world's too interconnected) but they want to have all the money earned coming to them. The current US administration has a clear policy of putting economic benefits for themselves above everything else, and this is across many areas of policy so it'd be really unusual for this to be any different.