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@pie_flavor said in Lime scooters:
they banned all motorized transportation.
Start a protest by claiming this is a discrimination against motorized wheelchair users. (If they actually forgot to make an exception for them, so much the better.)
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@Zerosquare for a moment, I thought you're going to talk about students who identify as motorized vehicles. Too much garage, I guess.
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@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
Too much garage, I guess.
Well, this is the right place for people who identify as vehicles.
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@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
I do believe 15 minutes of learning driving is enough to pass driving exam in US.
Maybe for learning the mechanics of driving the car. It's going to take more than that to memorize all those damn facts you need for the test. Like how close can you park to a fire hydrant. (I'm not addressing muscle memory)
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@Parody said in Lime scooters:
prove you can still read.
I haven't done that part in YEARS! (And I've progressed from no-glasses to need-glasses) I think the last written or eye test I took was when I got my license here - in 1995. (I was 30-sumptin then)
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@Carnage said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
@Polygeekery both are
massproducing electric vehicles that offer no safety for the driver...At least the scooters can't take out fire engines.
You sure?
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@dcon said in Lime scooters:
@Carnage said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
@Polygeekery both are
massproducing electric vehicles that offer no safety for the driver...At least the scooters can't take out fire engines.
You sure?
Well, a fire engine ought to be able to at least douse that level of fire. It has a bit more of a problem with a Tesla.
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@dcon said in Lime scooters:
@Parody said in Lime scooters:
prove you can still read.
I haven't done that part in YEARS! (And I've progressed from no-glasses to need-glasses) I think the last written or eye test I took was when I got my license here - in 1995. (I was 30-sumptin then)
Here it's every time you renew. The "test" involves looking into a little viewer and reading off a few letters; they mark your license based on whether or not you had glasses (or admit to having contacts) on when you did it.
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@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
I do believe 15 minutes of learning driving is enough to pass driving exam in US.
That explains a lot about American drivers.
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@topspin said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
I do believe 15 minutes of learning driving is enough to pass driving exam in US.
That explains a lot about American drivers.
In the bay area, it feels more like most of the drivers have never taken a test...
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@dcon said in Lime scooters:
In the bay area, it feels more like most of the drivers have never taken a test...
In my area, today I saw a woman driving who had her phone stuck between the windshield and dash. I assume she was watching a video or something while driving. At first I thought it was a HUD or something.
Nope, it was some manner of smartphone.
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@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
@Parody I've done driver's license in Chicago a couple years ago, and I didn't even have to parallel park - just a quick drive around a block and park on a regular (although jumbo-sized) parking spot, and I'm done.
When I did my Czech drivers licence I had to parallel park twice because the inspector was a dick. After the 30 minute drive we arrived back at the driving school and I'm told to park. The problem is that there isn't anywhere to do that. The closest spot I could find was about three blocks away and it wasn't an easy park either. I ask if here is fine, he says yes. After managing to squeeze in and just as I'm about to turn off the ignition the dickhead pipes up to say that now he thinks it's too far and that I should try to find something closer...
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@Polygeekery said in Lime scooters:
@dcon said in Lime scooters:
In the bay area, it feels more like most of the drivers have never taken a test...
In my area, today I saw a woman driving who had her phone stuck between the windshield and dash. I assume she was watching a video or something while driving. At first I thought it was a HUD or something.
Nope, it was some manner of smartphone.
I was reading an article about a trial of an automated mobile phone detection system in Sydney some time back. I reckon they need to hook that thing up to Twitter or something because some of the photos are outright hilarious.
There was one with the driver with both hands on the phone and the passenger steering.
Another one had the driver with only one hand on the phone. Trouble was the dickhead was using two phones concurrently!
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@Deadfast Found the article: https://www.9news.com.au/2019/02/11/19/19/news-sydney-mobile-phone-cameras-cars-fines-australia
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@Deadfast said in Lime scooters:
I was reading an article about a trial of an automated mobile phone detection system in Sydney some time back.
The problem is that it is awkward to enforce, except perhaps by complex image processing, and even then that's tricky because you've also got to work out whether the person on that side of that car is the driver or not. Unless you've got an advanced neural network available (probably housed inside a traffic cop's skull).
You can't do it by phone location — even if you know that the phone is definitely in use in the vehicle — because how do you distinguish between the driver using their phone and a passenger doing so? A back-seat passenger would probably not be disturbing the driver at all, given the ubiquity of headphones. The location information you've got probably isn't that reliable.
Which isn't to say that using a phone while driving is a good idea. It's just awkward to enforce this piece of common sense non-Darwinianly…
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@Gąska I think it varies by state. And age. In [LOCALE_US_OH], you need the written exam to get a learner's permit, then need to pass the in-person exam with a trooper to get the license. It involved driving around a suburban area, one suicidal squirrel (not sure if that was part of the test or not...) and doing one of those maneuvering test things where you have to back up and move around some cones.
If you're under 18 you also need 50 hours of driving experience and 50 hours of driving class.
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I should have looked it up before posting before, but
It seems the Danish requirements are:- 29 hrs theory
- 4 lessons on a closed circuit.
- 16 lessons on the road ( the trainer has seperate pedals for himself. It's a custom car)
- 4 lessons on a special slippery course. This includes education about kinetic energy, and the governing formulas.
To be allowed to begin the education you have to have a doctor's note.
You also need a course in first aid.
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@Polygeekery said in Lime scooters:
In my area, today I saw a woman driving who had her phone stuck between the windshield and dash. I assume she was watching a video or something while driving. At first I thought it was a HUD or something.
Nope, it was some manner of smartphone.I've seen people with their phone on Facetime calls while driving.
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@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
I've seen people with their phone on Facetime calls while driving.
Not as bad as the drivers of 18-wheelers who were found to be watching saved TV shows on the highway. Sometimes I just…
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@dkf said in Lime scooters:
@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
I've seen people with their phone on Facetime calls while driving.
Not as bad as the drivers of 18-wheelers who were found to be watching saved TV shows on the highway. Sometimes I just…
In these parts, truck drivers have been caught watching porn and handling the decidedly wrong stick while driving.
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@loopback0 said in Lime scooters:
I've seen people with their phone on Facetime calls while driving.
I think we have a winner. Now that I think about it, I bet this is exactly what she was doing.
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@pie_flavor said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska Really? You can learn how to drive in just fifteen minutes? TIL.
Yeah, it's pretty shit. Just gotta crash course the little booklet they provide and more than likely you'll pass.
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@dkf said in Lime scooters:
I do know that stalling the car wasn't a major error.
And now that manual transmissions are almost extinct on consumer vehicles, you don't even need to worry about that....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
And now that manual transmissions are almost extinct on consumer vehicles
Different markets. They're still quite common here, perhaps less so in new cars.
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@Deadfast said in Lime scooters:
When I did my Czech drivers licence I had to parallel park twice because the inspector was a dick. After the 30 minute drive we arrived back at the driving school and I'm told to park. The problem is that there isn't anywhere to do that. The closest spot I could find was about three blocks away and it wasn't an easy park either. I ask if here is fine, he says yes. After managing to squeeze in and just as I'm about to turn off the ignition the dickhead pipes up to say that now he thinks it's too far and that I should try to find something closer...
I'm proud to say I managed to back up on a forward incline and parallel park on the "wrong side" of a one-way street.
But I got told off for not respecting a stop sign I didn't even notice the first time around because it was turned 90 degrees and lying almost horizontally.
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@dkf said in Lime scooters:
The problem is that it is awkward to enforce, except perhaps by complex image processing
Apparently real cops aren't good at it either. Behold; the 'hash brown problem':
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@Cursorkeys said in Lime scooters:
police mistook a McDonald's hash brown for his cellphone.
Is that an example of a hash collision?
(I'll get my coat...)
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@Polygeekery said in Lime scooters:
Their deployment strategy was supremely dumb. They literally just took them and dropped them off in select cities without asking permission or anything and if you touched them without unlocking first it started yelling at you that it was going to call the police. Basically they were littering and the first interaction people might have with it is it threatening to have you thrown in jail.
Oh man fuck those things. They're all over my city, sometimes just left lying down in the middle of the sidewalk, and sometimes they even beep at you incessantly to remind you not to grab it and move it out of the way, or it'll phone home and a special LIME execution squad will be sent your way for tampering.
The city has actually started cracking down on them and hauling them away, but from what I can tell it hasn't slowed the company down one bit. Also, no one has any idea what those scooters actually count as, so people ride them on sidewalks, cycling roads and the streets all the same.
What's worst is that we have a public-funded bike share that actually works, but you have to walk 500 or so meters to the nearest dock, so people just take the scooter straight home and drop it in front of their door. Because that's... better?
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@dcon said in Lime scooters:
@Carnage said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
@Polygeekery both are
massproducing electric vehicles that offer no safety for the driver...At least the scooters can't take out fire engines.
You sure?
This Terminator reboot looks pretty bad
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@hungrier said in Lime scooters:
@dcon said in Lime scooters:
@Carnage said in Lime scooters:
@Gąska said in Lime scooters:
@Polygeekery both are
massproducing electric vehicles that offer no safety for the driver...At least the scooters can't take out fire engines.
You sure?
This Terminator reboot looks pretty bad
Still better than Genisys.
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@pie_flavor said in Lime scooters:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Lime scooters:
crash course
A poor choice of words.
Hey it's pass-fail, right?
Don't fail.
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These seem significantly more useful than a scooter. But obviously bigger and bulkier so I doubt they'll be able to get away with the dockless paradigm.
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@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
But obviously bigger and bulkier so I doubt they'll be able to get away with the dockless paradigm.
More importantly, they won't be able to get away with riding 20MPH on sidewalks.
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@boomzilla quoted in Lime scooters:
The newest mode of transportation could be coming to Austin in a matter of months, and that's including its a three-wheeled, sit-down scooter
Do you even English, KXAN Staff?
Filed under: INB4 "It's Texas, so no, they don't."
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@HardwareGeek said in Lime scooters:
Filed under: INB4 "It's Texas, so no, they don't."
Eh, it's Texas. They're practically Mexican anyway.
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@dkf said in Lime scooters:
@HardwareGeek said in Lime scooters:
Filed under: INB4 "It's Texas, so no, they don't."
Eh, it's Texas. They're
practicallymostly Mexicans anyway.FTFY
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@Polygeekery I know a bunch of Texans. I stand by my prior statement, precisely because I know it will wind them up.
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@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
a three-wheeled, sit-down scooter dubbed the electronic trike
Like an old-people mobility e-chair thing?
I'd read TFA, but apparently their "European visitors are important to [them]", so
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@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
The CDC finds that almost half of e-scooter injuries involve head trauma.
After the accident, or before?
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@Zerosquare said in Lime scooters:
@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
The CDC finds that almost half of e-scooter injuries involve head trauma.
After the accident, or before?
I should hope it's during the accident. I mean, I'm all for punishing bad driving, especially when it leads to slamming into pedestrians. But I strongly object to the use of head trauma as corporal punishment; it carries too much risk of producing a ward-of-state disabled. A swift kick on the nuts however...
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@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
half of e-scooter injuries involve head trauma.
Before or after the accident?
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@Zerosquare said in Lime scooters:
@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
The CDC finds that almost half of e-scooter injuries involve head trauma.
After the accident, or before?
Damnit.
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@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
The study determined that many e-scooter injuries could have been prevented if riders wore helmets and were more careful around cars
Filed Under: No shit, Sherlock.
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@El_Heffe said in Lime scooters:
@boomzilla said in Lime scooters:
The study determined that many e-scooter injuries could have been prevented if riders wore helmets and were more careful around cars
Filed Under: No shit, Sherlock.
Why do they hate natural selection?