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So I was in Canada, driving away from the airport at around 3AM in a newly picked up rental car, when the car started getting really sluggish. It was having a really hard time getting up to speed.
Finally figured it out: my wife had changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH.
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH
How would that make any sort of sense anywhere?
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
Finally figured it out: my wife had changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH.
So when you entered the motorway you tried to accelerate to the posted 120 limit, not realising that you were going way too fast? And that your rental car probably couldn't do 120?
I just hope you didn't drive past a speed camera then :)
@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH
How would that make any sort of sense anywhere?
It doesn't.
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@AlexMedia said in UI Bites:
@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
Finally figured it out: my wife had changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH.
So when you entered the motorway you tried to accelerate to the posted 120 limit, not realising that you were going way too fast? And that your rental car probably couldn't do 120?
I just hope you didn't drive past a speed camera then :)
This. Like, were there no other vehicles around? I would notice the discrepancy within five seconds.
It would likely have taken longer to determine that the change in numbers made sense, but it wouldn't take enough time to call it "finally" in a retelling...
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@Tsaukpaetra I hate auto cucumber.
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Like, were there no other vehicles around?
As I said, 3AM.
You also said Canada, which, from your reiteration tells me that, unlike where I live, 3AM is indeed a time in which no vehicles are present for significant stretches of time.
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@BrisingrAerowing said in UI Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra I hate auto cucumber.
Mine usually works well (It knew me well), but now I have to raise it up again. And figure out what the kernel is doing to halt the whole fucking phone for long enough that taps are being misregistered on occasion...
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
Finally figured it out: my wife had changed the climate control to display in Fahrenheit and this had the side-effect of changing the speedometer to MPH.
You liar.
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@Greybeard That doesn't even slightly back up your fake-ass story you made up.
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@Greybeard I love how they call it the "Recirculation Feature" Like, "Closing the vent" is a magical thing that needs calling a "Feature".
Also, I agree with BlakeyRat, your screenshots do not indicate that changing the temperature unit of the climate control system will necessarily change the speed unit of the speedometer.
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Um, Google Play, you seeing double there, buddy?
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@Tsaukpaetra The one setting affected both. Afterward, my wife found a "custom" setting which allowed speed and temperature to be set to different unit systems.
But, frankly, I really couldn't care what Blakey thinks.
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
@Tsaukpaetra The one setting affected both.
The screenshots you posted did not indicate this in any way, shape, form, or magical interpretation.
Afterward, my wife found a "custom" setting which allowed speed and temperature to be set to different unit systems.
Again, this claim is also not substantiated by your screenshots.
But, frankly, I really couldn't care what Blakey thinks.
Not relevant at all, but nice to know, thanks.
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@Greybeard said in UI Bites:
"Touchscreen Beep"
"Control Screen Time-Out — If Equipped"I prefer if my screen beeps and times-out in metric, thanks.
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@topspin This is why Windows Vista introduced task dialogs (or, more specifically, command links).
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@TwelveBaud said in UI Bites:
@topspin This is why Windows Vista introduced task dialogs (or, more specifically, command links).
That page mentions affordance and links to the glossary page where it is defined:
affordance
Visual properties of an object that indicate how it can be used or acted on. For example, command buttons have the visual appearance of real-world buttons, suggesting pushing or clicking.
Clearly it's old and obsolete cf. the new UI paradigm. :half_trollface,_half_sad_it's_true:
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@TwelveBaud: I've always wondered why MS never created a version of MessageBox() that would take an array of strings to set the name of the buttons. It's a simple idea, wouldn't have been difficult to implement, and would have solved this problem as well as making it much easier for programmers.
(yes, I'm aware topspin's screenshot isn't from Windows, but plenty of Windows apps have the same WTF)
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@TwelveBaud said in UI Bites:
@topspin This is why Windows Vista introduced task dialogs (or, more specifically, command links).
Very much so.
But lacking this (and unwillingness to give the buttons other names) it would have helped to ask a question in the first place if I'm supposed to answer with yes or no.
The button order is a bonus. Oh yes, and the title says warning while the icon shows a question mark. It's got some really high density.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
MessageBox
Except that Window's MessageBox displays those buttons in a pre-defined order. No/Cancel/Yes? That's just thoroughly WTF territory.
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Yes, I noticed that as a secondary WTF.
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This is particularly egregious example—the look suggests it is Gtk+¹, and there you always define list of buttons, so using yes/no does not simplify anything compared to custom labels.
@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
@TwelveBaud: I've always wondered why MS never created a version of MessageBox() that would take an array of strings to set the name of the buttons. It's a simple idea, wouldn't have been difficult to implement, and would have solved this problem as well as making it much easier for programmers.
(yes, I'm aware topspin's screenshot isn't from Windows, but plenty of Windows apps have the same WTF)
Windows apps at least have the excuse of MessageBox not supporting it. But Gtk does take a list of strings, and does so always.
¹ Unless it is Gtk acting as back-end to some “portable” abomination like wxWidgets.
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Unless it is Gtk acting as back-end to some “portable” abomination like wxWidgets.
Probably. ldd says:
$ ldd `which inspxe-gui` linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007ffd3b59f000) libinspxe_wx_helpers_core_1.35.so ... libwx_gtk2-2.8.so.0
On the other hand, if that's a predefined thing that means the library thinks "no, cancel, yes" is a sane order.
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"no, cancel, yes" is a sane order.
I thought it is a compromise between the usual Windowsy order yes-no-cancel and whatever the Appley order is, but by some screenshots I actually started to suspect the Appley order actually is might be no--cancel-yes.
inspxe
Looks like a deeply platform-specific tool. Which makes using wxWidgets instead of raw Gtk a .
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@Bulb No, it's Intel's Inspector, which is also available for Windows.
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@topspin Ah, it looked to me from the descriptor like a platform-specific thing, but if they have a Windows version, than wxWidgets make some sense (it's still utter crap).
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<arthur_dent>Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'optional' that I wasn't previously aware of</arthur_dent>
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This is like getting an offer from the Mafia. Technically, it's "optional", but...
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status: so many downloads it overran the clock. I better slow down...
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I love how the YouTube app doesn't let you go back to the previous thing you were viewing.
Nothing says good UI like breaking the main navigation element in the system.
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@anonymous234 said in UI Bites:
I love how the YouTube app doesn't let you go back to the previous thing you were viewing.
Nothing says good UI like breaking the main navigation element in the system.
This!
It sometimes works if fullscreen and you clicked an ad, but hot shit!
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
This is like getting an offer from the Mafia. Technically, it's "optional", but...
Otherwise known as the Product Manager?
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You know what bothers me? That button layout that almost all webcomics have:
<-- First <- Previous Next -> Last -->How often do people click the "previous" and "next" buttons, compared to "First" and "last"? Probably 100x more at least.
Replace them with something like "jump 10 comics", which probably has more demand, and have a secondary navigation menu where you can jump by date or number, and put that stuff there.
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@anonymous234 said in UI Bites:
You know what bothers me? That button layout that almost all webcomics have:
<-- First <- Previous Next -> Last -->How often do people click the "previous" and "next" buttons, compared to "First" and "last"? Probably 100x more at least.
Replace them with something like "jump 10 comics", which probably has more demand, and have a secondary navigation menu where you can jump by date or number, and put that stuff there.
I just want a "give me all the comics in a random order, but shuffled predictably so there are no repeats" option.
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@anonymous234 said in UI Bites:
You know what bothers me? That button layout that almost all webcomics have:
<-- First <- Previous Next -> Last -->The main problem there is that it's missing the random button.
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@ben_lubar said in UI Bites:
@anonymous234 said in UI Bites:
You know what bothers me? That button layout that almost all webcomics have:
<-- First <- Previous Next -> Last -->How often do people click the "previous" and "next" buttons, compared to "First" and "last"? Probably 100x more at least.
Replace them with something like "jump 10 comics", which probably has more demand, and have a secondary navigation menu where you can jump by date or number, and put that stuff there.
I just want a "give me all the comics in a random order, but shuffled predictably so there are no repeats" option.
I prefer a random start, but in sequence after that. Depending on the comic, sometimes there's mini-plots that span several strips.
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Depending on the comic, sometimes there's mini-plots that span several strips.
A number of comics are effectively telling a single story that runs for many hundreds of pages. Those are the ones for which the First/Prev/Next/Last layout makes a lot of sense. (Especially with some sort of Index button too.)
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@dkf But the "First" button is only useful if you're new to the webcomic, and the "Last" page tends to be visible on the homepage of the webcomic. Why include it as part of the main navigation on every page when Start of chapter Previous Next Next chapter makes more sense ?
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ST know the score. Who would marry a female electronics engineer?! OK, fine. Ms does mean Miss/Mrs. Ruins the post though, so imagine it's only a synonym for Miss
Edit: Bonus!
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@Cursorkeys said in UI Bites:
ST know the score. Who would marry a female electronics engineer?!
Would fuck.
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@Cursorkeys said in UI Bites:
Who would marry a female electronics engineer?!
Ms ≡ Miss ∨ Mrs
Edit: I have been informed that Ms is either a synonym for Miss or Mrs...stupid language.
But wouldn't it still need to be:
Ms ≡ Miss ⊻ Mrs
?
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@Cursorkeys said in UI Bites:
Edit: I have to use a codeblock or
<input type="checkbox" id="checkbox186" checked="true" /><label for="checkbox186">∨ Mrs):' True if '[x]' or 'Mrs', or both, are true.</label>
joins the party. Markdown is excrement.[x] really does seem to cause !!fun!!
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@Cursorkeys said in UI Bites:
Edit: I have to use a codeblock or
<input type="checkbox" id="checkbox186" checked="true" /><label for="checkbox186">∨ Mrs):' True if '[x]' or 'Mrs', or both, are true.</label>
joins the party. Markdown is excrement.[x] really does seem to cause !!fun!!
The checkbox ID value counts up when you make changes too, I'm seeing if it'll overflow now.