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It was, at a time. That time has long passed. Otherwise, you may also claim that aligning text using spaces, or using "O" instead of "0", is correct when using modern tools.
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Status: I'm feeling a little negative today...
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Well, if Wikipedia agrees with you, it must be correct. I was a secretary much later than that, and double-spacing after a period was business-standard.
It's a holdover from the days of typewriters and fixed-width fonts. Now with proportional fonts and word processors it's no longer necessary.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
It was, at a time. That time has long passed. Otherwise, you may also claim that aligning text using spaces, or using "O" instead of "0", is correct when using modern tools.
I still align with spaces occasionally. The ruler notch thingy just doesn't have enough precision sometimes.
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Well, if Wikipedia agrees with you, it must be correct. I was a secretary much later than that, and double-spacing after a period was business-standard.
It's a holdover from the days of typewriters and fixed-width fonts. Now with proportional fonts and word processors it's no longer necessary.
I can see why you omitted my sentence about kerning and irrelevancy.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
Otherwise, it's correct.
If you set your calendar to before 1950, maybe:
Sentence spacing
From around 1950, single sentence spacing became standard in books, magazines, and newspapers, and the majority of style guides that use a Latin-derived alphabet as a language base now prescribe or recommend the use of a single space after the concluding punctuation of a sentence.It was still being taught when I took a typing class in the early 1970s. (This was the class in which I once got a negative score on a typing speed test.) Nowadays, I notice that my phone corrects to
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if I accidentally tap the space bar twice.Edit: that's supposed to be a period and a (single) space, if it's not apparent in the rendered text.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
This was the class in which I once got a negative score on a typing speed test.
You achieved more than 32,767 WPM?!
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
This was the class in which I once got a negative score on a typing speed test.
You achieved more than 32,767 WPM?!
More than 9223372036854775807 WPM
Seriously, net WPM = raw WPM - errors. More errors than words typed -> negative score.
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@levicki said in UI Bites:
I can't even begin to parse this.
Why "Want to save your changes to ...?"
it's a simple question god damn it, phrase it like one. For example:
+----------------------------------------------------------+ | You are about to close bullshit.xslx, keep your changes? | | | | [Keep] [Continue working] [Discard] | +----------------------------------------------------------+
Given the question, the logical choices should be "Yes", "No".
For the possible answers given, the question should be something like: "What do you want to do next?"
The dialog boxes used to be Yes/No/Cancel, until (IIRC) Windows Vista. What I hated most about this switch to Save/Don'tSave/Cancel was that it screwed up the keyboard shortcuts (only one in English, but both of them in French).
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@levicki said in UI Bites:
Note how I used "Continue working" instead of "Cancel" to avoid negative conotation of cancelling stuff
Negative connotation??
and how I moved discard to the right as the last (and worst in case you didn't intend to) option, not snuck it right next to "OMG NO".
BAD IDEA. Windows has been training users for years in that the rightmost button means "WAIT NO I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT" and you just put a destructive one, that can't be undone, in that slot.
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@HardwareGeek FUCKING HELL WHY DOES IT END MY SENTENCE WHEN I PRESS SPACE TWICE?
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@TwelveBaud said in UI Bites:
@HardwareGeek FUCKING HELL WHY DOES IT END MY SENTENCE WHEN I PRESS SPACE TWICE?
:aliens_guy:
Grammar.
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@Vixen in-joke from the community server days, where the WYSIABNQEUWYG editor, when you pressed backspace, trimmed the text of spaces before processing the keypress. Thus if you typed a word and a space, and decided to erase the space, it would also erase the last letter of the word. Hence, "FUCKING HELL WHY DOES IT DELETE TWO CHARACTERS WHEN I PRESS BACKSPACE ONCE?".
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@TwelveBaud said in UI Bites:
WYSIABNQEUWYG editor
ah. so you got it from Sirius Cybernetics Corporation?
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Almost. It's called "Microsoft".
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
Almost. It's called "Microsoft".
Or, as Encyclopedia Galactica would define it
Microsoft Corporation (MSFT) is the former name of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation before the re-organization of Marketing and Complaints divisions.
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I still align with spaces occasionally. The ruler notch thingy just doesn't have enough precision sometimes.
You're holding it wrong.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
It was, at a time. That time has long passed. Otherwise, you may also claim that aligning text using spaces, or using "O" instead of "0", is correct when using modern tools.
I still align with spaces occasionally. The ruler notch thingy just doesn't have enough precision sometimes.
Bonus tip: nobody says you need the ruler in Word to correctly position tabstops. Double click a tabstop and you get this screen:
Don't forget to click Set and Ok.
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@PleegWat I think he actually meant Telligent, but that's a bit too nonameish to be the ancestor of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
It was, at a time. That time has long passed. Otherwise, you may also claim that aligning text using spaces, or using "O" instead of "0", is correct when using modern tools.
I still align with spaces occasionally. The ruler notch thingy just doesn't have enough precision sometimes.
Bonus tip: nobody says you need the ruler in Word to correctly position tabstops. Double click a tabstop and you get this screen:
Don't forget to click Set and Ok.
That's probably hugely more work to use than just aligning with space. Not only do you need to double-click to open that window, meaning switching from keyboard to mouse, you also need to guess the length that you want to use, which in practice can only mean trying at least 2 or 3, if not many more, values before finding the right one.
So I'm with @Gąska on this one, aligning with spaces is sometimes the least worst option.
(I probably wouldn't do that for a document that's intended for further edits or distribution as a Word document, but for one-off lettres or stuff distributed e.g. in PDF only, I wouldn't care)
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
If you crave bad UI, this game is for you:
(and it's made by a company that does IoT, which makes total sense)
That's terrible.
~10:25
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The "Read More" button about their current tour takes you to a YouTube video.
I love reading YouTube.
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@HardwareGeek said in UI Bites:
@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
Otherwise, it's correct.
If you set your calendar to before 1950, maybe:
Sentence spacing
From around 1950, single sentence spacing became standard in books, magazines, and newspapers, and the majority of style guides that use a Latin-derived alphabet as a language base now prescribe or recommend the use of a single space after the concluding punctuation of a sentence.It was still being taught when I took a typing class in the early 1970s. (This was the class in which I once got a negative score on a typing speed test.) Nowadays, I notice that my phone corrects to
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if I accidentally tap the space bar twice.Edit: that's supposed to be a period and a (single) space, if it's not apparent in the rendered text.
You have to use HTML tags and a space entity to get it to display correctly:
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@levicki said in UI Bites:
Note how I used "Continue working" instead of "Cancel" to avoid negative conotation of cancelling stuff
Negative connotation??
I think maybe he meant potential ambiguity. If you select "Cancel," are you cancelling the close operation, or are you cancelling the save, or did something else happen and now you're cancelling the cancellation?
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The ruler notch thingy just doesn't have enough precision sometimes.
A sharper pencil should help with that.
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Youtube has a feature that I like, where sometimes (rarely; I haven't figured out any pattern) navigating away from a video will leave it playing in the corner of the window while you do whatever in the main area. Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
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Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
I think it's this "mini player" button:
I don't know how to get it to trigger automatically though.
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I've seen it a few times, it didn't seem to follow any logic. I thought "they must be doing some A/B testing for a new feature again". But I don't have a Google account and delete the cookies pretty often, so maybe it's an option you can enable?
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@Zerosquare said in UI Bites:
, so maybe it's an option you can enable?
I thought so too, but apparently this is not the case. If it's available, there will be an icon, and sometimes magically it activates sometimes.
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Youtube has a feature that I like, where sometimes (rarely; I haven't figured out any pattern) navigating away from a video will leave it playing in the corner of the window while you do whatever in the main area. Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
Is that in Chrome? I can't imagine where else a page from which you've navigated away would be allowed to keep elements rendered.
That being said, the mobile app has had this for years.
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@heterodox I think Youtube works like an SPA where it simulates actual navigation. Or maybe it does sometimes.
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@heterodox said in UI Bites:
which you've navigated away
In YouTube you don't ever navigate away so long as it's still YouTube.
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@heterodox I've had it happen in Firefox too, so it's not Chrome-specific. Unsure what triggers an automatic miniplayer to happen, though.
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Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
Miniplayer.
Otherwise it's seemingly random.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
I think it's this "mini player" button:
I don't know how to get it to trigger automatically though.
Might be something that video uploaders can turn on/off? I know I use 125% playback speed on certain videos, and that sometimes on other videos (where I generally wouldn't want it anyway) it doesn't work.
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I just tried to move the window of Windows 10's media player (the one named "TV and Movies" for some reason) to the left, and I ended up accidentally skipping two episodes.
Maybe touch controls with a mouse are not such a good idea.
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Status: I wish I didn't have to go through many hoops and loops to bring back the window border on default Windows 10...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Status: I wish I didn't have to go through many hoops and loops to bring back the window border on default Windows 10...
Where's the shadow effect of that File Explorer window gone to? Or were you trying to replace it with a simple border causing it to glitch like that?
EDIT:
Here's the Paint.NET installer just now:
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Where's the shadow effect of that File Explorer window gone to? Or were you trying to replace it with a simple border causing it to glitch like that?
I think it's what happens when I RDP in. There is no shadow effect, and since there is also no border, what you see here.
If there was a border, it wouldn't matter whether there was a shadow effect or not.
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@Tsaukpaetra I haven't tried RDPing into Windows 10 (although I may have done so with Windows 10-like Server editions, idk) but on my machine the windows have a 1px accent-coloured border around them
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@hungrier It needs to be 3px bigger!
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@Mason_Wheeler Fucking hell why does it resize 2px when I click once?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Status: I wish I didn't have to go through many hoops and loops to bring back the window border on default Windows 10...
HandleAttributeRecieved
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
Status: I wish I didn't have to go through many hoops and loops to bring back the window border on default Windows 10...
HandleAttributeRecieved
Not my code either. Should I recieve it into my bosom so I can let you receive it more fully?
I am in a mood to refactor it so the system that's abusing it will buse a little less...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in UI Bites:
I think it's what happens when I RDP in.
Yeah, RDP disables the things that depend on acceleration. It does that in all Windows version as far as I can tell.
Though surprisingly it enables some acceleration too. Colleagues needed to present something over Cisco WebEx, and that disables even more acceleration to the point it made the application they needed to present almost unusable (it uses mix of JavaFX and Swing). But if they RDP'd from the presenting computer to another and ran the application thee, enough of the acceleration worked to be able to present it.
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@Tsaukpaetra I haven't tried RDPing into Windows 10 (although I may have done so with Windows 10-like Server editions, idk) but on my machine the windows have a 1px accent-coloured border around them
Same here.
RDP to Windows 10. Explorer with dark mode on top of Notepad and black wallpaper.
I'm sure Server 2016 is the same but I'd have to check at work tomorrow.
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Youtube has a feature that I like, where sometimes (rarely; I haven't figured out any pattern) navigating away from a video will leave it playing in the corner of the window while you do whatever in the main area. Does anyone know how to get it to do that all the time?
IIRC it's a per-video option, enabled by default but disabled in all videos made before it. Same as the Download button.