Tinder is shit


  • Resident Tankie ☭

    @topspin said in Tinder is shit:

    there is no way in hell I'm paying 60€ a year for their piece of crap. Death first. AIDS first, then death.

    Filed under: Tom Hanks called, he wants his Philadelphia VHS tape back.



  • @dkf said in Tinder is shit:

    @topspin said in Tinder is shit:

    EDIT: for the lulz, "top in app purchases" lists this great deal.

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    Free trials cost almost €17? That must be some new meaning of the word “Free” of which I was not previously aware.

    That's the "Shipping & Handling" of course.


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    @dkf said in Tinder is shit:

    @topspin said in Tinder is shit:

    EDIT: for the lulz, "top in app purchases" lists this great deal.

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    Free trials cost almost €17? That must be some new meaning of the word “Free” of which I was not previously aware.

    That the part where the "everything free in America " song comes in.


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    @admiral_p said in Tinder is shit:

    @topspin said in Tinder is shit:

    there is no way in hell I'm paying 60€ a year for their piece of crap. Death first. AIDS first, then death.

    Filed under: Tom Hanks called, he wants his Philadelphia VHS tape back.

    :whoosh:
    topspin


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    @topspin I'm presumably seeing prices with VAT tacked on, but yes, it's ridiculously high: $15.31/month for 12 months, $22.97/month for 6 months, and holy fucking shit, $36.75 for a single month. Netflix Premium costs $14.66 here with no variable pricing. I don't know how much a Pornhub subscription costs and I don't want to go check at work, but I'll eat my shoes if it's not less.

    What is Tinder charging this much for? Do they send me an escort once a month if I can't score myself?

    Also, Jesus tittyfucking Christ, is this Top Picks garbage going to throw up a notification every single fucking day? "Your top picks are ready!" - FUUUUUCK OOOOOOOFF


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    @blek said in Tinder is shit:

    $36.75 for a single month. Netflix Premium costs $14.66 here with no variable pricing.

    Holy fuuuuck. Why does this cost so much? The average WTDWFTer could throw this shit together in a week.
    Cheaper competition should totally destroy this.

    I don't know how much a Pornhub subscription costs and I don't want to go check at work, but I'll eat my shoes if it's not less.

    Didn't even know that's a thing, but I checked for you.
    It's way cheaper. And has VR porn, which tinder doesn't.

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    9.99€ per month, 12x 7.99 a year.



  • @blek I've gotten emails for a different dating site that were offering the "special rate!" of merely....

    $23.99/month. Yeah. And this particular site looks like it came from the late 90s and you can't do anything useful unless you pay. Pass.


  • :belt_onion:

    @mott555 said in Tinder is shit:

    I'm sure a good part of that is due to the city/rural divide. As kids, we were always waking up at 2:00 AM on a school night because the cattle busted a fence and were standing in the middle of the highway again, ...

    At least here in Belgium, our cattle had the common sense to break out in the afternoon 🙄


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    In the UK, according to this article (as I'm not a member of these and I couldn't find prices without being one):

    Match.com - £29.95/mo
    eHarmony - £44.95/mo - £12.95/mo if you buy 12 months
    Match Affinity - £44.95/mo or £11.95/mo if you buy 12 months
    Elite Singles - £89.95/mo or £29.95/mo if you buy 12 months



  • @loopback0 Yes, dating sites are notorious about not listing prices without becoming a member first.


  • Resident Tankie ☭

    @loopback0 said in Tinder is shit:

    In the UK, according to this article (as I'm not a member of these and I couldn't find prices without being one):

    Match.com - £29.95/mo
    eHarmony - £12.95/mo
    Match Affinity - £44.95/mo or £11.95 if you buy 12 months
    Elite Singles - £89.95/mo or £29.95/mo if you buy 12 months

    Preying on desperation, I see?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @admiral_p It would seem that way, yes.



  • @loopback0: this makes me think of those microcars for people who don't have a driving permit. They cost as much as a real car and really suck (even if I've been told they're less horrible now than they used to be). But the manufacturers know their audience is captive.

    A more disgusting example is the price of paramedical stuff for the disabled. Every single thing is hugely overpriced. Even if it's virtually identical to a standard, made-in-China gadget that costs pennies in another context.


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    @loopback0 The last one certainly is in the "you'll only meet people who can afford this shit" category. (And gold diggers)


  • Banned

    @masonwheeler said in Tinder is shit:

    But the secret of it is: keep trying anyway, because no matter how much stupid crap goes wrong, it only has to go right once.

    Well, not quite. But still a useful advice.



  • So, foolish me was thinking this morning that I might tell you a success story today. Should've known better.

    So, there's this girl, I've known her for a while, attractive, smart - but back then there was no "spark". Stayed in irregular contact nonetheless due to common friends.

    Fast foward to this year where she contacts me - if we want to spend an afternoon together just after my birthday? Well, okay. Turns out that she initiated a (small) surprise birthday party for me. That was rather nice. I know what you're thinking but no difference in feelings for me. Yet.

    As a kind of thank-you I then wanted to do something nice for her and we agreed on a brunch. Which turned into a whole day together. Made me see her in a bit of a different way but nothing serious.

    A short time later she invited me to an evening out along with some of her friends. That's about where it hit me - and I'm still not sure where or if I misinterpreted anything. What I previously took as signs - eye contact with smiles, standing and dancing close together, "accidental" touches, sharing of drinks - I would still take as signs of interest. Not to mention the invitations and the rest.

    After that she had to spend some time away and I was left to make sense of my feelings. Talked to a mutual good friend of the both of us and she agreed that I should go for it.

    Today I got another invite from her for an evening out. Not optimal, I had hoped for a bit more of a one-on-one setting (I had suggested as much but her calendar was rather full with preplanned events), but if you wait for "optimal" you might as well wait for the heat death of the universe. Signs hadn't changed.

    So, during the course of the evening I asked her (which took a hell of an effort on my part to even make that step) if we could go somewhere a bit more quiet. There I got the first warning sign: My request was met with ... I don't know, a mixture of confusion and indifference. Let's call it the middle between "Yes, let's!" and "Hell, no!"

    And there we were - me sitting next to her, trying to force myself to at least begin to talk because I had recognized that sign and was even more nervous now. But I also knew that if you begin that old song and dance you have to see it through. Otherwise you'll only begin to doubt yourself afterwards if there hadn't been something else you could have done and you basically begin from step 1 again (only for your audience to become even less receptive this time).

    Finally I got myself to speak about my feelings - not a long rambling speech, probably more like a minute and was met with this:

    😕

    That's not the face you want to see after doing what I did. Which I again immediately recognized - everything after that amounted to a tactical retreat.

    Sometimes after an experience like that I think that "the one who got away" really was the one. Not willing to give up just yet, though. Just need to lick my wounds for a bit.



  • @Douglasac said in Tinder is shit:

    and it could also be pulled up at will once you figured out how their API worked which was (and I believe still is) trivial.

    Apparently they never bothered to fix it. What a surprise.


  • kills Dumbledore

    @Rhywden good on you for facing your fear and trying it. A bit of embarrassment isn't that bad and you've learned a bit about what is and isn't a sign



  • @Jaloopa for that one person. "Signs" are as variable as people. That's one of the frustrating things for me--while there are broad rules, every person is an exception to some of them. And often the details aren't even constant over time or situations. Those of us who don't see them naturally struggle to intuit the shifting pattern of cues.


  • Resident Tankie ☭

    FWIW, I had a demoralising experience these last few days, where I approached a girl I've been exchanging glances with for quite a while. Once again, she was less than attractive (to me, especially mentally). Very hard to make conversation with her without hating myself for the banality of my canned remarks in response to stuff I couldn't care less about. (It works both ways, really. Both me and the lass probably wanted to make it work somehow even if didn't).

    We still had sex though. Which is even worse, because the sex was stunted (to tell the truth, I've been a bit spoilt lately with a string of partners I had much better sexual "complicity" with) and it has sent me into a spiral of self-doubt and tedium ("why do I do it? I don't really care that much, I can do without"). I realise that, since I really experienced what could be called "love" for the first time recently, I've needed something more than sloppy rebounds and fucking around (literally) for the sake of it. Maybe it's time for me to embrace celibacy for a while, besides, I'm not in the right state of mind for interaction.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    Dear SideBarWTF,

    I never thought it could happen to me...


  • kills Dumbledore

    This thread does make me glad that I'm done with the whole dating thing, and was done before Tinder became a thing.


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  • @Jaloopa said in Tinder is shit:

    This thread does make me glad that I'm done with the whole dating thing, and was done before Tinder became a thing.

    One of my biggest regrets is not actually trying/practicing dating back when it was "easy" (when I was around a bunch of single people my age, aka college/high school). So yes. Be grateful. Be very grateful.


  • Considered Harmful

    @Benjamin-Hall I know I'm going to regret that later too. :(



  • @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    @Benjamin-Hall I know I'm going to regret that later too. :(

    Hey! That's exactly what developers whose code is eventually featured in TDWTF say, too!



  • @Zerosquare said in Tinder is shit:

    @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    @Benjamin-Hall I know I'm going to regret that later too. :(

    Hey! That's exactly what developers whose code is eventually featured in TDWTF say, too!

    Some of them are too unthinking to notice. They think they're doing the right thing.



  • @Benjamin-Hall said in Tinder is shit:

    One of my biggest regrets is not actually trying/practicing dating back when it was "easy"

    When I was in junior high and high school, I was quite smitten with the girl across the street and uninterested in anyone else. (She did not have similar feelings toward me. She was a year and a half older than me, which is a big deal when you're that young, and although we'd been friends most of our lives, I simply didn't exist romantically.) My one attempt to ask her out was turned down, and since I wasn't interested in anyone else, I didn't learn social skills at the age when everyone else was still awkward and learning, too.


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    @Benjamin-Hall said in Tinder is shit:

    One of my biggest regrets is not actually trying/practicing dating back when it was "easy" (when I was around a bunch of single people my age, aka college/high school).

    I get that feeling too. But it would've been college, highschool was 100% impossible for that.


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    @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    @Benjamin-Hall I know I'm going to regret that later too. :(

    You can still change that.
    (Everyone can, but you can change the "at that age" part)



  • @Benjamin-Hall said in Tinder is shit:

    @Jaloopa for that one person. "Signs" are as variable as people. That's one of the frustrating things for me--while there are broad rules, every person is an exception to some of them. And often the details aren't even constant over time or situations. Those of us who don't see them naturally struggle to intuit the shifting pattern of cues.

    Due to some unfortunate aspects of my upbringing, about the only "signs" that I am good at noticing and interpreting fall along the threat/non-threat axis. If someone's acting threatening or aggressive, even a tiny bit, I can pick up on that immediately. But outside that axis, I'm terrible at reading other people and I'm wrong far more often than I'm right.

    It does make me a decent security guard in a few cases where I've served as one. But I'm terrible at these social games, and the vast majority of people will play games instead of just being direct and honest (like an ideal list of feature requirements for software 😆 )


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    @topspin I may go into my difficulties there another time.



  • @mott555 said in Tinder is shit:

    It does make me a decent security guard in a few cases where I've served as one. But I'm terrible at these social games, and the vast majority of people will play games instead of just being direct and honest (like an ideal list of feature requirements for software 😆 )

    I hate social games (no, not real games involving talking, but relationship games or friendship games). Just tell me if you're not interested. It'll save us both so much time. Conversely, tell me if you are. Otherwise I may not notice.


  • kills Dumbledore

    @Benjamin-Hall the other person is also scared of rejection. The games are a way of gauging interest without coming out straight away and risking embarrassment when feelings aren't reciprocated. People aren't doing it to be difficult


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    @pie_flavor Eh, if I write it now I'll be motivated to keep it to the point.

    A good analogy is bees. When I was small, we used to go to a mini-golf course, memorable for its giant orange dinosaur statue. Its eighteenth hole was a covered upwards ramp with a small goal in the center, and if you got it through that goal, you won something, I forget what. There was also a siren that was supposed to sound. Well, I hit the hole one day, and the siren didn't sound. I stuck my head under the cover to see what was up, and suddenly my ear was burning. The next day they closed as an exterminator took care of the giant hornet's nest I had inadvertently found.
    Now, I rationally know that bees don't want to hurt me and wasps need to be provoked first. I rationally know that if I do get stung, the pain will last an hour and then it'll be just like a mosquito bite. I rationally know that if a wasp has its sights set on me, there's nothing I can do within a few seconds that will stop it. That does not stop me involuntarily jumping away from any small yellow-and-black flying thing, with a level of uncontrollability comparable to muscle spasms. That does not stop me from being seriously startled incredibly easy by loud bee-type buzzings to the point my heart rate skyrockets. Stuff you experience in childhood never really leaves you.
    Most people in middle school recognized me as the special ed kid, and left me well enough alone. And then there were those that recognized me as the special ed kid, and therefore bullying was in easy mode. I honestly at the time would rather just have gotten the shit beaten out of me instead of the daily needling, enough to really piss me off but not enough to be worth telling anyone about (some of it would have been, had the staff given one tin shit - but they didn't). These days I'm almost thankful for it because I've grown extremely thick-skinned as a result but life was really hell back then. Anyway, for the most part it was guys doing it, but there were two girls who had it in for me. I never actually knew, but they had been co-conspirators for the most part in all the major stuff. Eventually, they tried their hand at it too. One became my friend, growing closer and closer over the course of two months, until I asked her out. Cue a very public humiliation. The other pretended to be among the few people outraged by it, and became my friend, and good old retarded me fell for it again.
    Pain lasts for an hour. After that it was a mosquito bite on the back of my mind. But to this day I am so incredibly unable to ask anyone out, no matter what I rationally know people are like or even what I rationally know they see me as. If I get into any situation even close, all my social skills fly out the fucking window and I say something so incredibly autistic that I'll probably never see that person again. Even among friends, I can't bring myself to say anything. There are exactly two times I have ever been able to ask anyone out - the first was someone who I knew would never pass up the chance and the second I was high and once I was back in my head again and saw that it wasn't read I compulsively deleted it as if by muscle spasm. I fucking hate not having control over my own brain like this, and it's of the few aspects of my mental state that I haven't made peace with despite the fact that I fuck it up every single time I try with zero indication of progress.

    If this seems rambling that's because it is. I'd successfully thrust the entire experience out of my mind and until about fifty words into this post had no idea it was this that made me like this. I wish therapy wasn't so expensive.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    hornet's nest

    If you think ordinary yellowjacket wasps are assholes, hornets are way worse.



  • @dkf said in Tinder is shit:

    @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    hornet's nest

    If you think ordinary yellowjacket wasps are assholes, hornets are way worse.

    In which world? Their sting may hurt a bit more for a short time but the pain of bee poison can last for days. It's also less dangerous than that of wasps.

    They're also way less aggressive than wasps.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Rhywden said in Tinder is shit:

    They're also way less aggressive than wasps.

    Ordinary wasps aren't aggressive. They're just hungry and very keen on finding out what food and drink you've got.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Jaloopa said in Tinder is shit:

    @Benjamin-Hall the other person is also scared of rejection. The games are a way of gauging interest without coming out straight away and risking embarrassment when feelings aren't reciprocated. People aren't doing it to be difficult

    EXCEPT THE GAMES GO ON TILL DEATH DO US PART!

    No, but seriously, I agree with you that the games are often exactly what you're saying. Just not the only reason. And sometimes the opposite reason.



  • @pie_flavor Eh, you're just a bit of a fixer-upper.
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  • Java Dev

    @TwelveBaud said in Tinder is shit:

    @pie_flavor Eh, you're just a bit of a fixer-upper.
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    I can't remember how to Tinder. Would this be a swipe right or a swipe left if this picture/profile would end up in my feed?


  • BINNED

    @Atazhaia
    That depends on how trollish you are feeling


  • Considered Harmful

    @Benjamin-Hall said in Tinder is shit:

    @blek I've gotten emails for a different dating site that were offering the "special rate!" of merely....

    $23.99/month. Yeah. And this particular site looks like it came from the late 90s and you can't do anything useful unless you pay. Pass.

    Sounds like the one whose email infrastructure I set up 10 years ago. Twice as many mail servers as web servers, even though their horrible PHP code is from the late 90s and full of performance- and other WTFs, because they send such enormous amounts of "notifications". And like 90% of their female accounts are paid animators who sometimes literally send half a million mails in a single day :facepalm:



  • @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    I wish therapy wasn't so expensive.

    Well, posting here is free...

    (being serious for a moment: yeah, it's expensive and the "quality" is wildly variable. It sucks.)


  • area_can

    Every day I come home to a mansion with 8 supermodels and then we fuck on a pile of money until my butler finishes washing up my McLaren


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    @bb36e said in Tinder is shit:

    Every day I come home to a mansion with 8 supermodels and then we fuck on a pile of money until my butler finishes washing up my McLaren

    - Wash my car, Beauregard. Imma be in here. Lemme know when done.
    (40 seconds later)
    - You're done, sire :trollface:


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    @pie_flavor said in Tinder is shit:

    A good analogy is bees

    And...
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  • Banned

    @Applied-Mediocrity somewhat related:

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  • Considered Harmful

    @Gąska
    I also li...

    :facepalm: ⚠ 🔔 :exit:



  • @blek said in Tinder is shit:

    So it looks like they rolled out a new feature, something called "top pricks".

    FTFY.