Windows Update WTFs
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@masonwheeler No, she's just a perveted vixen
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@sh_code Actually, the elevator in my appartment comlex has this button and it actually works! You can make the door go openclosopencloseopencloseopenclose if you press the two buttons in the right rythm. Or you can fuck over other people that want to get on by keeping it pressed, then the doors won't open untill you reach your destination. But that functionallity is actually in every elevator in some way, often by keeping the target number pressed, so police can get up quickly in case of emergency.
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@TimeBandit said in Windows Update WTFs:
@accalia said in Windows Update WTFs:
fuck
anti-fuck
fucking
fucked
I think I found your favorite word
She meant duck.
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@TimeBandit said in Windows Update WTFs:
@masonwheeler No, she's just a perveted vixen
Did someone call for me?
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
ah. shame.
Cause i'm here now.
are you sure i'm not wanted here?
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@Perverted_Vixen Quite.
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Perverted_Vixen Quite.
ah. well you're no fun anymore. maybe someone like @TimeBandit will appreciate my assets more.
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@Perverted_Vixen By the strictest definition, aren't they depreciating assets?
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@Perverted_Vixen said in Windows Update WTFs:
maybe someone like @TimeBandit will appreciate my assets more.
I'm sure there are others who would too ;)
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Perverted_Vixen By the strictest definition, aren't they depreciating assets?
You're not having fun so you don't get to talk about my marvelous assets.
so KYON!
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@Perverted_Vixen said in Windows Update WTFs:
maybe someone like @TimeBandit will appreciate my assets more.
Show me what you got !
And then the boobs came out
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@Perverted_Vixen said in Windows Update WTFs:
@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
ah. shame.
Cause i'm here now.
are you sure i'm not wanted here?
I want you here, yeah...
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
@TimeBandit Profanity is the hallmark of a tragically limited vocabulary.
Fuck off is it
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@Perverted_Vixen said in Windows Update WTFs:
@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
ah. shame.
Cause i'm here now.
are you sure i'm not wanted here?
There are plenty of people who appreciate what you bring to the party. Definitely wanted.
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@Quwertzuiopp said in Windows Update WTFs:
You can make the door go openclosopencloseopencloseopenclose if you press the two buttons in the right rythm.
yes, that's the part "the close button does nothing", so the "right rythm" is to account for that (i'd bet). the open button, on the other hand, HAS TO WORK, by law, as far as i know. congratulations to successfully finishing your pavlovian elevator training :-D
the other info about making it ignore other floor stops is news to me, makes sense.
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
Profanity is the hallmark of a tragically limited vocabulary.
On the contrary: correct use is an artform in its own right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86zlSplwK2A
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@sh_code said in Windows Update WTFs:
yes, that's the part "the close button does nothing", so the "right rythm" is to account for that (i'd bet).
Orrrrrrr the button actually does work. My apartment building has one that actually works as well.
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@hungrier said in Windows Update WTFs:
@sh_code said in Windows Update WTFs:
yes, that's the part "the close button does nothing", so the "right rythm" is to account for that (i'd bet).
Orrrrrrr the button actually does work. My apartment building has one that actually works as well.
Our office building ones work. But really only if 1 or 2 people get on. Much over that and the normal stay open time has been spent.
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@sh_code No, I mean literally stuck while opening and closing, jittering back and forth. It literally just works, and as I said it is required by law for either it or keeping the floor button pressed to work as a shortcut anyways, for emergency personn
alel.
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@Quwertzuiopp said in Windows Update WTFs:
for emergency personal
You mean, like urgently needing to go to the bathroom ?
FileUnder: you probably meant "emergency personnel"
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@TimeBandit Well, they don't want you to know or you will start using it for just that
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@Quwertzuiopp said in Windows Update WTFs:
@sh_code No, I mean literally stuck while opening and closing, jittering back and forth. It literally just works, and as I said it is required by law for either it or keeping the floor button pressed to work as a shortcut anyways, for emergency personn
alel.Black magics, I say!
:-D
(okay. then i like your country. in my country, in my 27 years of life, I don't think I ever came across any elevator door close that did work.)
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@masonwheeler said in Windows Update WTFs:
Microsoft being unable to figure out how to apply updates without trashing everything I have going on and rebooting the system is their problem. They need to stop trying to make it my problem. Users have been complaining about this for well over a decade, but what do they do? Flat-out insult every one of us to our faces by coming out with Windows 10, which makes reboots mandatory.
Thou Shalt Not Reboot My Computer Without My Explicit Permission. Period. Until Microsoft fixes this, I will not move to Windows 10.
That's been included in Windows since Vista. Applications can automatically be restarted if the system is rebooted for updates. They have to request it, however. They will be triggered to save their state when an automatic restart is required, and they can specify which command-line options to use when restarting so that the application will start up and return to its pre-reboot state.
Not Microsoft's fault if application designers can't get their shit together and use the API that Microsoft gave them.
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@anotherusername said in Windows Update WTFs:
That's been included in Windows since Vista
I just discovered this API. And also discovered that the "pack" that lets you do this fairly easily is no longer available from Microsoft (had to snatch it from some dude that uploaded it to GitHub, natch).
Unfortunately, said automatic restarts only happen once the user logs back in, so if Windows Update didn't do that for you, you're SOL until someone screeches over the company chats about the servers "being down" at 3am in the morning.
And there is no way in frick I'm going to attempt to re-create this WPF app that fancies itself as a "server" as a Technically Correct Windows Service.
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@Tsaukpaetra try putting it in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
.
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@anotherusername said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra try putting it in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
.Will that cause it to run on the hidden desktop? Because that will confuse the shit out of everyone else.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
Unfortunately, said automatic restarts only happen once the user logs back in, so if Windows Update didn't do that for you, you're SOL until someone screeches over the company chats about the servers "being down" at 3am in the morning.
And there is no way in frick I'm going to attempt to re-create this WPF app that fancies itself as a "server" as a Technically Correct Windows Service.
Wait. Are you really complaining about Windows Update (and restart manager) when your app is doing everything wrong ??? And that's Microsoft's fault ???
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@dcon said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
Unfortunately, said automatic restarts only happen once the user logs back in, so if Windows Update didn't do that for you, you're SOL until someone screeches over the company chats about the servers "being down" at 3am in the morning.
And there is no way in frick I'm going to attempt to re-create this WPF app that fancies itself as a "server" as a Technically Correct Windows Service.
Wait. Are you really complaining about Windows Update (and restart manager) when your app is doing everything wrong ??? And that's Microsoft's fault ???
It's not my App, I'm just slowly counseling it into what it's supposed to be.
The thing spins up an old/school style http request server, a hand-written TCP connection handler, Entity Framework, PowerShell, and Azure plugin that is probably really out of date, and is written in WPF for some reason.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
@dcon said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
Unfortunately, said automatic restarts only happen once the user logs back in, so if Windows Update didn't do that for you, you're SOL until someone screeches over the company chats about the servers "being down" at 3am in the morning.
And there is no way in frick I'm going to attempt to re-create this WPF app that fancies itself as a "server" as a Technically Correct Windows Service.
Wait. Are you really complaining about Windows Update (and restart manager) when your app is doing everything wrong ??? And that's Microsoft's fault ???
It's not my App, I'm just slowly counseling it into what it's supposed to be.
The thing spins up an old/school style http request server, a hand-written TCP connection handler, Entity Framework, PowerShell, and Azure plugin that is probably really out of date, and is written in WPF for some reason.
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@dcon said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
@dcon said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
Unfortunately, said automatic restarts only happen once the user logs back in, so if Windows Update didn't do that for you, you're SOL until someone screeches over the company chats about the servers "being down" at 3am in the morning.
And there is no way in frick I'm going to attempt to re-create this WPF app that fancies itself as a "server" as a Technically Correct Windows Service.
Wait. Are you really complaining about Windows Update (and restart manager) when your app is doing everything wrong ??? And that's Microsoft's fault ???
It's not my App, I'm just slowly counseling it into what it's supposed to be.
The thing spins up an old/school style http request server, a hand-written TCP connection handler, Entity Framework, PowerShell, and Azure plugin that is probably really out of date, and is written in WPF for some reason.
Don't worry, I'm shipping it to Theseus.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Windows Update WTFs:
@anotherusername said in Windows Update WTFs:
@Tsaukpaetra try putting it in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices
.Will that cause it to run on the hidden desktop? Because that will confuse the shit out of everyone else.
Yeah, I assume so, but the same would happen if more than one user needed to log in to the computer... it'd only be running on one of their desktops. I take it that everyone would always have to log in as the same user? If that's the case, just turn on automatic login for that user, and then set it to run on startup...
Or, you could do it "properly": split the GUI part of it and the "service" part of it, and then you can put the service part in
RunServices
and the GUI part in the Startup applications. The application would start when the computer started, and the GUI part that they need to interact with would start when someone logs in.For a legacy app, though, just go the easy route. Set up Windows to log the account in automatically and then you can just have the app start when the account logs in.
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@anotherusername said in Windows Update WTFs:
could do it "properly": split the GUI part of it and the "service" part of it, and then you can put the service part in RunServices and the GUI part in the Startup applications. The application would start when the computer started, and the GUI part that they need to interact with would start when someone logs in.
This is the current plan, but I'm not well versed in inter-process communication, so currently writing up endpoints on the http server portion for all the important metrics that are actually cared about.